[Discussion] Weakest younkou
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Relostar Devil
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Watch ep 316 or read chp 434 it will make half of things clear or altleast it did for me though.
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Point was to show you that Wb had already met shanks and buggy when they were on rogers ship and he stated that an ass like you got his ass kicked in east blue.
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It's just your bad interpretation.
Everyone was surprised that you lost an arm in East Blue. [How could someone like you lost an arm...]
Nope as of now Kaidou has more going for him to be the strongest, he has a title which the others don't.
If anything Shanks is only second to BB when it comes to being the weakest. He lost his arm to a fodder fish that Luffy before even becoming a pirate one shotted. Now he obviously grew much stronger since then but one could assume Big Mom and Kaidou have been in the Yonkou race far longer than Shanks has, and have been stronger for a much longer time period therefore more experience.
Seeing someone doesn't make him stronger than unknown characters with equivalent hype. That's a terrible method of ranking characters.
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It's just same for Shanks. WE have more going on about him until now and he has better portrayal than other yonko so far which is why everyone thought that he was the strongest. It was just like how Kaido is getting hyped as soon as we get to learn something about him.
Being more experienced hardly means anything in OP verse. Luffy would never match Joker if we were to take experience as a major factor while talking about strength. And it is not that Shanks is considered stronger just because we get to see more of him. It is that he has better hype and portrayal so far in the series. At this point Kaido is the only one to have portrayal that puts him above Shanks. That too can be interpreted in many ways which might separate Shanks from Kaido's title.
lol "more" hype and portrayal is innaccurate since the other Yonkous haven't even been shown. I mean we hadn't even seen Kaido before last chapter, and his hype was very strong his title as well, but just knowing a bit more changed so many peoples opinions of him.
you keep saying Portrayal and hype above the others, what portrayal puts him above the others? He's just had more panel time. Teach managed to put scars on him and a fodder fish took his arm, is that the portrayal?
Like I said, right now Big Mom is a complete unknown. We don't have any real portrayal of hers to compare to Shanks so that point is moot. Ranking Shanks first or last is equally accurate at this point and equally useless.
No we don't, but when the power scales are as vague as they are, we go by what we have......what else do you want us to rank with? Show me feats that we can compare, I'll wait.....
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Ya actually you are right. "How could someone like you lost an arm", clearly showed that he was strong in front of everyone's eyes, but that bastard was just fooling around and was trying to become strong but he was really weak and made WB laugh like nuts on him. Thats why he always says that you can laugh on me and even spit on me and I won't do anything bcoz he himself knew that if he try to mess with them, he would he beaten to death that's why he ordered lucky roo to shoot that thug in east blue bcoz he don't have any ballz to mess with guys who are taller than him.
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That would hold water, if Shanks fought that sea monser, but he never fought it, he lost his arm by accident, because he needed to save Luffy. The time Shanks just looked at the monster, it run away with tails between his legs.
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A person of his stature can lost arm by accident?? I don't think so, maybe he was not that impressive from the very start, right??
Don't know if you're aware of this or not but the more you get to know about a character the lesser will be the hype surrounding that character. Every character gets over hyped at the beginning then his/her hype will get lesser as time passes. It's same for every villain introduced so far and Kaido isn't an exception. Besides don't you think what you're currently doing with Kaido is what the other people did with Shanks? Just knowing a bit made you put Kaido above the rest and you're calling people idiots for doing the same in case of Shanks.
No one is reading manga so badly that they actually think that if a character has more panel time then it means that the said character is stronger than others. Shanks barely had any panel time compared to other yonko.
I wonder if you're being serious or not. He did far more than just getting a scare from BB and losing an arm to a beast. And I am pretty sure everyone in this forum is aware of his accomplishments. Shanks received his scare prior to the formation of his crew which happened like 20y ago which means that Shanks was less than 20Y old back then. Just a glare of him was enough to scare the shit out the of the same monster which was responsible for the loss of his limb so anyone with basic comprehension should be able to deduce the fact that he lost his arm because the situation demands it not because he was weak enough to lose against a fodder sea king.
About his portrayal: We all know that BB was out of his mind at MF, he actually thought that he's the strongest and went as far as challenging both Garp and Sengoku at the same time. Same dude became so cool and openly admitted that he's incapable of going against Shanks which puts him above BB. So until we get something that proves otherwise Shanks remains superior to BB.
Much of same can be said about Akainu, he went as far as challenging all Wb commanders just to make sure that Luffy dies. Same guy was desperately hopeless to make a move when Shanks stood in his way. No matter how much people try to spin the situation by using excuses such as fighting another yonko is meaningless and all . It doesn't change a thing.
Shanks is one of 3 people with right capabilities to wear Rogers hat with 2 of them being potential PK candidates whose hype is above anyone else in the series. Needless to say that the pirate king himself entrusted his hat with Shanks. If it is not same as him getting better portrayal then I don't know what it is. Apart from stupidity , he's pretty much shown to be same as Luffy and Roger in every possible way.
With the latest info we received about Kaido, it should be obvious for anyone that words are useless against him and that he's not level headed. So if anyone gets in his way then he'd attack them without a second thought even if it's a yonko. After all he insane enough to attack enemy groups all by himself. Shanks managed to stop that guy from going after Whitebeard in no time and actually managed to reach MF to stop the war. Once again if it is not portrayal then I definitely don't know what it is.
About Big Mom: If it isn't for the sake of argument I am pretty sure even you'd admit the fact that male dominance is too high in the series so she can't possibly be stronger than fellow Yonko. And nothing surrounding BM actually hints the point of her being stronger than any other Yonko. She doesn't have anything to offer when compared to others so putting her above others is just stupid. And there is nothing wrong with putting someone above others based on what we have given so far because that's how arguments are being presented in this kind of discussions for ages. It's not like we know everything about every single character in the series yet we tend to discuss stuff about them.So there is nothing wrong with making conclusions based on what we have in our hands. But they can't be presented as facts , I can agree with that much. Shanks isn't conformed to be stronger but with what we have seen so far he mustn't be below Big Mom or BB. That's what I have been trying to say.
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