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Dude, do you even know how how changing your chakra nature work?

We're talking about regular Rasengan. There is no nature element to it.

Any jutsu that use any of the 5 element fall under "Ninjutsu" So therefore, The good ole regular Rasengan ain't Ninjutsu. Then adding bijuus chakra to it, ain't really ninjutsu because Naruto didn't weave no signs to it. And He could still use it if his ability to weave signs was taken away.

rasen shuriken is a ninjutsu though.



Jutsu and nin-jutsu are not the same.



It is not ninjutsu because He didn't weave no sign to learn it or do it.




Please educate your ass, cba to explain to someone so stubborn.
 
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Its just the moulding of Chakra with a nature element but it is not ninjutsu. Not everyobe was able to mould chakra in that way which is why only certain people could achieve the Rasengan. Also, considering it was based of the Tailed Beast Bomb, which is purely the moulding of Chakra, that means that the attack itself is not ninjutsu.

The databooks claim its a Ninjutsu technique so go home with your fanfic claims.
 

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Please educate your ass, cba to explain to someone so stubborn.

That ain't the manga! I'm going by the freaking Manga! Go reread the chapters of Naruto learning Rasengan!
 

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Funny how Sasuke is on top with ninjutsu :lmao::lmao::lmao::lmao:

Yeah lmao. Sasuke would be a mid tier ninjutsu user. He is better at Genjutsu than Ninjutsu.

Naruto, Madara, Hashirama, Minato, Kakashi, and Obito are the few examples I could think of that beat Sasuke at Ninjutsu alone.
 

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Good for them ! But naruto was a master at it from young!

OT: Naruto 'borrowed'. They 'took'. Two different things.

Borrowed means take and use (something belonging to someone else) with the intention of returning it. Naruto never returned anything meaning he took it as well.
 

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Please explain.. Saauke has better fire,better susanoo, better shape minipulation, better CT AND created Kirin.
Naruto isn't a genius.

you keep saying Naruto is not a genius then why is it that he is the only 1 person out of the 2 of them (Naruto and Sasuke), who has accomplished everything he has said out to do. huh Sasuke is not a genius
 

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Sasukes all SHARINGAN.......only thing he uses ALOT THAT NINJUSTSU IS CHIDORI AND FIREBALL JUTSU

Naruto has way more moves....it's manga fact that rasengan is ninjustsu.....

The sage of six paths even said it

Sasuke: spiritual power....which is usally genjustu

Naruto: physical power which is usally NINJUSTSU
Spital power is yin + chakra of the sage= ninjutsu.
Yang physical and lifforce equals power of kurama it is the reason naruto does not 3xcel at ninjutsu and uchiha do. Uchiha eyes record all jutsu they specialise in nine and gen the reason orochimaru covets uchiha is ninjutsu.
 

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you keep saying Naruto is not a genius then why is it that he is the only 1 person out of the 2 of them (Naruto and Sasuke), who has accomplished everything he has said out to do. huh Sasuke is not a genius

What Genius have to do with that? Stop trying to give people the runaround!
 

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Kirin is due to Sasuke have to convert the chakra into lightning chakra in his hand to control the flow of Kirin. Most eyes jutsu ain't "NIN-JUTSU"







Nope. It is a "jutsu". But not "Ninjutsu" According to manga in part 1, Ninjutsu need signs.

For example. If 3rd hokage take away Naruto ability to weave signs, Naruto can still make a rasengan.
That's enough of this nonsense.

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Every single jutsu falls under either Gen, Tai or Nin. There is no jutsu that isn't in one of those categories.
 

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Borrowed means take and use (something belonging to someone else) with the intention of returning it. Naruto never returned anything meaning he took it as well.

Hmmmm....

Interesting....

Naruto actually asked Kurama if he could borrow chakra.

He asked to borrow something with no intention of giving it back... i've heard of people like that...
 
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you keep saying Naruto is not a genius then why is it that he is the only 1 person out of the 2 of them (Naruto and Sasuke), who has accomplished everything he has said out to do. huh Sasuke is not a genius
Naruto accomplished what plot shield + outside interference accomplished everything for him. And he's not a genius if anything you could say he's sincere.
 

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That's enough of this nonsense.

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Every single jutsu falls under either Gen, Tai or Nin. There is no jutsu that isn't in one of those categories.

So you're saying If 3rd Hokage take away naruto's ability to weave signs, he wouldn't be able to make a rasengan?
 

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If Y'all want to use the databook, then Sasuke is the fastest shinobi period!

Even the DB doesn't state that. Go by mangafacts RSM Naruto is fastest excluding 8 Gates Gai. Naruto's footwork and reflexes surpasses Sasuke's footwork and reflexes.
 

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So you're saying If 3rd Hokage take away naruto's ability to weave signs, he wouldn't be able to make a rasengan?

You're saying Naruto didn't call Rasengan ninjutsu in those scans? Part 1 said a mud clone, throwing Shuriken tile and making a typhoon was a Hokage level battle. Then in part 2, Four-Tailed Naruto destroyed three building sized constructs with a single shot and wasn't Hokage level. Google "recton."
 

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What Genius have to do with that? Stop trying to give people the runaround!

The dropout accomplished everything in life and the genius didn't. The only reason sasuke is called a genius is because of his sharingan and he still is hasn't accomplished anything. No is the NV has called Naruto a genius so you or whoever saying Naruto is not a genius is stupid because as he's shown you don't need to be a genius to accomplish things
 

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Even the DB doesn't state that. Go by mangafacts RSM Naruto is fastest excluding 8 Gates Gai. Naruto's footwork and reflexes surpasses Sasuke's footwork and reflexes.

IF we go by mangafacts, Then Sasuke is the fastest because Madara acknowledged it. In fact, How many times have Sasuke's speed had been acknowledged more than Naruto throughout the whole manga? I can think of at least 4 times. Naruto's speed had only been acknowledged twice. Nagato and Raikage.

So play that mangafacts card, I'll play it too.
 
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