[Discussion] Rank these characters in terms of physical strength.

Rokudaime Hokage Naruto

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So if you took away their devil fruits and haki just leaving them with muscle power and chosen weapons who do you think is stronger out of these characters.

Doffy
Luffy
Zoro
Marco
Kizaru


My personal ranking would be.
1) Zoro
2) Luffy
3) Doffy
4) Marco
5) Kizaru

This is important because if you guys think people like Doffy, Marco and Kizaru outrank Zoro and Luffy in terms of strength, then its apparent that the straw hats have much training still to do.



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So if you took away their devil fruits and haki just leaving them with muscle power

Do people not read?
 
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Yeah I can live with that.I agree.
 

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why did u put zoro before luffy in terms of strenght...are u serious, luffy's fighting capabilities is based on strenght mainly.
 

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Why is Zoro above Luffy? Please tell me that you weren't counting Gear 4.
 

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1.Marco - his fruit is basically just healing properties (hax though), other than that he is mostly a physical fighter
2.Zoro- Based on his swordmanship, i can imagine it takes alot of strength to use swords like that
3. Luffy- im not too sure between him and doflamingo, but I pick him. Most of his strength comes from his fruit
4. doffy- uses his fruit mostly- not sure
5. kizaru- almost exclusively uses his fruit in battle
 

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Why is Zoro above Luffy? Please tell me that you weren't counting Gear 4.
Zoro is stronger than Luffy's natural strength. It's by inflating his rubbery that his attacks become stronger. With gear4, the elasticity triples the damage
 

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1.Marco - his fruit is basically just healing properties (hax though), other than that he is mostly a physical fighter
2.Zoro- Based on his swordmanship, i can imagine it takes alot of strength to use swords like that
3. Luffy- im not too sure between him and doflamingo, but I pick him. Most of his strength comes from his fruit
4. doffy- uses his fruit mostly- not sure
5. kizaru- almost exclusively uses his fruit in battle
What physical strength feats does Marco have? How is Zoro higher than Luffy? Luffy with Gear 4 is obviously stronger than Zoro.
 

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1. Marco - Overpowered Kizaru and he possess a mythical zoan anyway that increase strength

2. Kizaru - He may not be a strength base type of character, but he is still an admiral. All admiral level stats are on higher level. For those who don't believe it because they have a hardtime seeing an admiral dominating weaker opponent in their area of expertise, just look at the difference in physical stats between Vergo(high VA) and Sanji in his area of expertise or Kizaru-Old Rayleigh in swordsmanship

3. Zoro - They had equal base stats in the past, but the difference between Zoro's pre and post skip pound cannons comparatively to Luffy's pre and post skip Bazooka shows that Zoro became physically stronger

4. Luffy - Still a physical strong fighter, but weakened in base stats likely because he focused more on improving in gears

5. Doflamingo - Still has strong stats, but was getting dominated in CQC by Base Luffy, although was weakened
 

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What physical strength feats does Marco have? How is Zoro higher than Luffy? Luffy with Gear 4 is obviously stronger than Zoro.

No devil fruit so no gear 4.
Marco has been able to kick both Aokiji and Kizaru quite considerable distances iirc. He is supposedly yonko level(able to defeat BB), and his fruit doesnt really give offensive abilities, so i'd assume his haki/physical abilities are top tier
 

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Pretty much agree. Most of Luffy brute strength comes from his DF. Zoro's brute strength is all natural(better not be taking any substances...who knows what Perona did to him while he slept).
 

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Are you serious ?!? you can't be !!! Doflamingo is a ****ing TANK !!! He ate everything Luffy and Law had and he was still on his feet !!
 

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LOL I love how ppl don't read...

Zoro is training his whole life how does Luffy has more strenght than him without haki or DF?
Are you serious ?!? you can't be !!! Doflamingo is a ****ing TANK !!! He ate everything Luffy and Law had and he was still on his feet !!

Tanks to DF...he was regenerating.Should have been already dead without it.
 

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LOL I love how ppl don't read...

Zoro is training his whole life how does Luffy has more strenght than him without haki or DF?


Tanks to DF...he was regenerating.Should have been already dead without it.

So in a fist fight between Zoro and Luffy, no Haki and no gears Zoro would win?
Sounds like bs to me
 

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So in a fist fight between Zoro and Luffy, no Haki and no gears Zoro would win?
Sounds like bs to me

Luffy would smash him in a fight like that LOL. Unless Zoro kicks Luffy in the balls. ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
 

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If anyone has Zoro or any one else over Kizaru then they should log off and delete their account right now lol.

Do you guys think you can reach the rank of Admiral by simply having an OP fruit? Do you not realize in the New World you get exposed if your base stats aren't honed. Kizaru is in the upper echelon of Top tiers in this verse, he would get exposed if his physical strength was lacking in any way shape or form.

An Admiral without his DF is still a top tier in all categories.......this includes physical strength.


Zoro is stronger than Luffy's natural strength. It's by inflating his rubbery that his attacks become stronger. With gear4, the elasticity triples the damage

Not so sure about this, it should be close. was back in
 
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lol if I didn't know better this looks like a sad attempt to make zoro look good over every person who's way stronger then him in this group


Idk why the Op would put characters (except zoro cuz he doesn't have devil fruit and somewhat luffy but his power is mainly amplified by using the stretching to increase damage outcome upon impact) have strength feats that are not connected with their devil fruit ( for exp one of Marcos feats is kicking kizaru well he needed his fruit to fly and build up his damage outcome through the speed of flight which would increase it on impact which is why kizaru went flying or doffy the only thing I can think of is when he clashed with Fuji and when he kicked a building in half that's it)

Why not use ppl who don't have devil fruits like vergo shanks mihawk Jinbe pre Mera Mera sabo etc... lol the OT still even leaves zoro his SWORDS whereas none of the others "chosen weapons can be used because they r devil fruit related (strings , light sword etc) or r the devil fruit themselves
 
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