[VS] Luffy and Zoro vs Jozu and Vista

[-Akuma-]

Location: Dressrosa.
Mind Set: Bloodlusted.
Distance: 10M.

Luffy has unlimited time in G4 with no drawbacks.

 

[sagemode07]

Luffy and Zoro high diff , esp with unlimited G4

 

[nandachikara]

Luffy and Zoro high diff , esp with unlimited G4

i second this...

 

[TRE MERCER]

Luffy solo's with these conditions.​

 

[Hexuze]

Tough call. Jozu is missing an arm, so that's going to be tough for him and Vista is presumably stronger than Zoro. I'm going to say Luffy & Zoro wins, mainly because of G4 being unlimited in this (already sounds broken) and who knows how powerful Zoro's asura is this time.

 

[-Akuma-]

Luffy solo's with these conditions.[/font]​

Boy.....

 

[TRE MERCER]

Boy.....

Go ahead and make an argument for them and ill destroy it.​

 

[Souji]

So... How is G4 breaking through diamond?

Team WB Commanders high difficulty. I think Zoro and Vista are just about equal with Vista just marginally better.

 

[Apêx1]

Depends on Jozu's CoA.. I genuinely don't see Zoro cutting up Jozu if it was a canonical fight. It's a diamond DF for a reason. Same with Luffy in G4, if he couldn't take out Doffy, then he's certainly not doing anything to Jozu regardless of his G4 being unlimited. Vista should also be mid-high diff'ing Zoro. So I don't really see how Team 1 wins, but there's also no way team 2 can react to G4 levels of speed if Doffy couldn't.. Guess you need to define what "unlimited" means.

 

[Love Cook]

Yeah even with G4 I don't see Luffy punching through diamond.

Also Vista is out of Zoro's league so team WB should be able to handle this with high difficulty.

 

[Vandenre1ch]

Even Mihawk was unable to scratch diamond and Vista fought on par with him. If Mihawk cant cut diamond, Luffy definitely aint punching threw it. Zoro can fight on par with Mihawk so Vista is out of his league and Zoro cant scratch diamond either.

Jozu and Vista wins.

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[-Akuma-]

Go ahead and make an argument for them and ill destroy it.​

I really don't need to portrayal and their feats speak for themselves. Jozu beats Luffy by himself, Luffy can have fun cracking that diamond.

 

[TRE MERCER]

Jozu's diamond armor is being overrated. Jozu hasn't shown that he's capable of keeping of with G4 speed at all actually. Doflamingo who didn't have a problem keeping up with G2 luffy was completely blitz by G4 Luffy he didn't even react fast enough to even turn his head as it's clear in the scan he's still looking straight forward. .

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Plus Luffy finale punch to finish Doflamingo completely obliterated his strings plus his Spider web.

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. Note the Spider web which are very durable as it tanked G3 Haki covered punch without any sign of struggle or damage .

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. Once Jozu is blitzed Godsled ruins his face completely. Let's say he can tank one he isn't tanking mulitple and with the speed advantage Luffy has over him he's never going to land a solid hit on Luffy. Vista wouldn't even be able to pierce the G4 body as Doflamingo strings couldn't even do such a feat. .

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. Vista cuts are tanked and then his body is ruined via G4 punches.​

 

[bajram]

If Jozu was able to take on Aokiji and get beaten only when he got distracted than there is nothing that indicates that current G4 can defeat Jozu and Vista is definitely above Zoro for now.

Team WB com mid-high diff.

 

[TRE MERCER]

Even Mihawk was unable to scratch diamond and Vista fought on par with him. If Mihawk cant cut diamond, Luffy definitely aint punching threw it. Zoro can fight on par with Mihawk so Vista is out of his league and Zoro cant scratch diamond either.

Jozu and Vista wins.

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Jozu didn't even tank his slash he grabbed it from the side and tossed it up. .

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. You can also see it better here.

[video]https://youtu.be/R-26StU97WE?t=43[/video]​

If Jozu was able to take on Aokiji and get beaten only when he got distracted than there is nothing that indicates that current G4 can defeat Jozu and Vista is definitely above Zoro for now.

Team WB com mid-high diff.

This logic right here is why the OP Vs threads need help. Mihawk was able to take on Shanks does that mean other warlords can? Not a chance. G4 Luffy has the speed and the DC to defeat Jozu like i said multiple GODSLED's to the face ends him diamond armor or not.​

 

[Bogard]

G4 can't be unlimited. It depends on haki and it will always run out at some point, but assuming you mean that his haki is infinite(ridiculous), he may win against Jozu extreme diff(Jozu is stronger than Luffy normally). A Vista vs Zoro battle depends on Zoro's full strength, but based on what we've seen Vista should win with around mid difficulty.

 

[OG sama]

Some of the logic in this thread sucks. If no one can bypass Jozus diamond defense then he should be unstoppable, I find it unlikely that Jozu is tanking G4 attacks especially KKG just because we have seen no one breaking his defenses.

I will give it to team 2 for now as G4 being unlimited isn't going to make up for Luffys Haki not being on par.

 

[Forbidden Tale]

Vista is the best swordsman among WB Pirates and one who put good fight to Mihawk (probably not at full power). I think that already put him as one of the best swordsman around. I doubt Zoro is on that level already.

Luffy and Jozu can go either way, tho I would lean toward Jozu.

So WB Commanders.

 

[-Akuma-]

Jozu's diamond armor is being overrated. Jozu hasn't shown that he's capable of keeping of with G4 speed at all actually. Doflamingo who didn't have a problem keeping up with G2 luffy was completely blitz by G4 Luffy he didn't even react fast enough to even turn his head as it's clear in the scan he's still looking straight forward. .

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Plus Luffy finale punch to finish Doflamingo completely obliterated his strings plus his Spider web.

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. Once Jozu is blitzed Godsled ruins his face completely. Let's say he can tank one he isn't tanking mulitple and with the speed advantage Luffy has over him he's never going to land a solid hit on Luffy. Vista wouldn't even be able to pierce the G4 body as Doflamingo strings couldn't even do such a feat. .

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. Vista cuts are tanked and then his body is ruined via G4 punches.​

Jozu not being able to keep up with Luffy's speed is a joke, he fought Kuzan for an extended period of time off screen and only sustain injury once he was distracted mean he was able to keep up with an Admiral. So unless Luffy is badly outpseed Top Tiers Jozu is keeping up with Luffy. It's funny you bring up Doflamingo not being able to react to G4 when he odes it here

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Jozu is not getting blitzed, not is godsled wrecking him, his diamond allowed his to take a cut from Mihawk long enough so he could throw it up with no damage whatsoever. Mihawk's slash is more impressive than anything Luffy has done in the manga maybe with the exception of King Kong Gun. DD's string weren't able to cut simply because he retained his rubber properties while being covered in haki, plus the fact you think Vista won't be able to produce attack stroner than DD's normal moves is laughable. Vista was keeping up to pace with Mihawk and Mihawk was the one who even called off their duel, the fact you think Luffy is blizting people capable of fighting Top Tier isa joke.

 

[Rιver]

Doubt Luffy has the firepower to break through diamond, let alone Haki enforced one. And when Mr. 1 asked Zoro "what's next, diamonds!??", Zoro replied "no need". Implying he wasn't going to learn how to cut through sheer diamond near future.

...And then there's Vista.