VOTE Madara vs Gaiden Sasuke (No Sage Power)

[LuckyMan]

Location: Outsikirts of WinterFell
Intel: Full for both
Mindset: To kill
Restrictions: Ridoku chakra.
Conditions: Skip all the irrelevant stuff, both start with PS out.


I say EMS Madara wins. The mans Susanoo is just too overpowered if you ask me.

 

[Lariatoo]

Madara have Kurama?

 

[KeyofDestiny]

VoTE Madara has Kurama. He mid diffs at the very highest. Restrict Kurama? I still think Madara would win.

Inb4:

-Rinnegan wank.
-People giving Rikudo Sasuke's feats to normal Sasuke w/ zero Rikudo Chakra.
-Ameno swaps out his heart.
-Coreless CT
-Rinnegan Genjutsu GG
-Kaguya level Sasuke
-Sasuke's Susanoo being far far above EMS Madara's.
-Speed blitz GG
-PS Chidori GG

Inb4 Waltz, Inb4 TRE MERCER, Inb4 unorthodox

Though if they started normally and not in their Avatars, Ameno would blitz and Sasuke would one shot Madara.

 

[Unorthodox]

inb4 Unorthodox my azz.

Sasuke wins yo u cannot compare him to anyone below double rinnegan SM alive Madara His perfect susanoo > Madara's an every aspect

as a teenage his susanoo was as fast as bsm naruto who is faster than bm naruto who smacked 5 tbb away a point blank range from kakashi that may have been a shunshin but bm is still slower than BSM and adult sasuke is atleast 5 tiers above EMS Sasuke in every stat line add flight in the fact that hashirama was jumping rock to rock dodging attacks he dodges everything in Madara's arsenal Chidori streaming through a ps blade would destroy Madara perfect susanoo like butter dices kurama up as well Chou shira tensei kills Madara. Normal shira tensei throws all those bijuu ps blades back into Madara face.

Or he could just stomp this match by catching them both with Rinnegan Genjutsu with a glance GG

end result Adult Sasuke wins low diff

 

[KeyofDestiny]

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[Unorthodox]

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We can get this poppin on this thread to

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[KeyofDestiny]

Not a chance in hell. No reason to argue with someone who thinks:

-EMS Sasuke's PS=Madara's.
-Adult Sasuke's PS one shots Madara's.
-Adult Sasuke beats Madara and Kurama.


And is still giving Rikudo Sasuke feats to non Rikudo Sasuke.

 

[Unorthodox]

Not a chance in hell. No reason to argue with someone who thinks:

-EMS Sasuke's PS=Madara's.
-Adult Sasuke's PS one shots Madara's.
-Adult Sasuke beats Madara and Kurama.


And is still giving Rikudo Sasuke feats to non Rikudo Sasuke.

Never said EMS Sasuke perfect susanoo = Madara's although it would not be far off at all.

Never said its a one shot i just explained simple he not tanking ameno blitz's from the back repeatidly or react so null point.

How is Rinnegan genjutsu 1 shotting a Hagoromo feat? his chakra just makes things more power no change the complete mechanics of how they work. If a 3 tomoe user gets hagoromo chakra he still needs eye contact to catch the opponent and we never saw rinnegan genjutsu in action before then so to say its just a Hagoromo feats is basically you conceding to my arguments.

How come he cannot win against them he can dodge everything in they're arsenal or blow it back at them they have no answer to rinnegan genjutsu cannot react to ameno need i say more? nah your just an adult Sasuke hater and your not going to argue with me

BIDTCH WHERE? because we debated this topic multiply times and you got that ass popped in all of them

 

[KeyofDestiny]

Not wasting my time.

 

[Unorthodox]

Not wasting my time tired of getting beaten

Smart boy.

 

[ARGUS]

Lol madara shits

PS + Kurama >>> weaker PS + non factor six path jutsus

nb4 Waltz, Inb4 TRE MERCER, Inb4 unorthodox

Lol this is funny

 

[Unorthodox]

Lol madara shits

PS + Kurama >>> weaker PS + non factor six path jutsus

Lol this is funny

read above before acting dumb i told you about that young disciple

 

[Zee U]

I do think that Sasuke's PS reached Madara's level, but the latter got Kurama so it's a mid diff win for him. Big maybe if his Rinnegan Genjutsu is stronger than Madara's and can break his control on Kurama, but it's just my assumption.

 

[Chaosmark101]

Agreed with Zee U. Sasuke's chance rests soley on whether he can wrestle Kurama from Madara's control with Rinnegan Genjutsu. I'm assuming he can't since it appeared as if the Kyuubi was

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when he was rikudo powered.

 

[Apêx1]

Sasuke shits. He overpowers Madara's Genjutsu on Kurama with Rinnegan Genjutsu and then puts it into CT. He proceeds to fight Madara and then use outter paths to absorb Kurama's power. His Bijuu PS becomes stronger then he was at VOTE because 100% Kurama solo's.
I'll add this here:

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This was before Sasuke received his Rinnegan. Assume Oro spoke of alive EMS Madara and knew everything about him, that leads me to believe Sasuke in his 30's is prime, and with Rinnegan he should be far superior to Madara. Note that he would surpass, not be on par with. Without a Rinnegan.

 

[Kushina san]

Assume Oro spoke of alive EMS Madara and knew everything about him,

Nope.

 

[Apêx1]

Nope.

Then you want to assume this is double Rinne Madara? Fine with me, because Oro knew of both.

 

[SSStylish]

Sasuke shits. He overpowers Madara's Genjutsu on Kurama with Rinnegan Genjutsu and then puts it into CT. He proceeds to fight Madara and then use outter paths to absorb Kurama's power.

I was unsure at first about this matchup but this right here convinced me that Sasuke wins.

 

[Beans2]

Even if we take away Rikudou chakra, Rinnegan genjutsu should logically be stronger than EMS genjutsu just like how Double Rinnegan Madara's PS > EMS Madara's PS.

Sasuke can wrest control over Kurama and use him to nuke Madara to death.

 

[LuckyMan]

Even if we take away Rikudou chakra, Rinnegan genjutsu should logically be stronger than EMS genjutsu just like how Double Rinnegan Madara's PS > EMS Madara's PS.

Sasuke can wrest control over Kurama and use him to nuke Madara to death.

But Madara can beat him without Kyuubi.