Who would of won, Sasuke or Raikage

[Naruto X Hunter]

I wasn't countering. I just stopped there, actually.

You compared Sasuke's genjutsu to Madara's so...

Another weak counter. Sasuke didn't use Genjutsu at all despite making eye contact, and whether it is as powerful as Madara's Genjutsu or not doesn't matter.

The only counter to Uchiha Genjutsu is not looking into the opponents eyes, and having atleast one teamate around to save you if you get caught.This is an established fact, and part of the only battle tactics against a Sharingan user.

Read this, and the next 3 pages.

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If it's one on one, run away, if it's two or more on one then be sure to team up against the Sharingan user, and avoid eye contact at all cost.

 

[Pukkake Pokayo]

<div class="bbWrapper">The very best case scenario for the Raikage is that he ended up as a potato.</div>

 

[lndra]

Raikage was fighting recklessly too don't forget that, he just wanted to avenge his brother.

Honestly I would say Sasuke would have fared much easier if he had a tad bit more experience with his MS. Not to mention most of his techniques were being countered too.

 

[Adam Driver]

Sasuke's susanoo would've tanked the next attack from Raikage then Sasuke would cover him in Enton.
Even Gaara knew this, hence advising the Raikage to not attack

 

[solorflare99]

Sasuke's susanoo would've tanked the next attack from Raikage then Sasuke would cover him in Enton.
Even Gaara knew this, hence advising the Raikage to not attack

Or he didn't want the raikage to be out of commission. Common sense would tell you that.

 

[King Of Pop]

Wouldn't Kagutsuchi just cut his leg off?

yeah, also his entire downside region was about to enter those enton spikes. he would have been literally cut all over.

OT. ay would have died or his leg removed. also soosnao was present so it could have softened the impact of the strike.

 

[The Demon Hawk]

Sasuke would win definitely. Raikage would be completely engulfed in Amaterasu flames since his entire body would pass through the Ama shield set by Sasuke. Sasuke's ribcage Susanoo would be completely destroyed, and he would be severely injured, that's all, but Raikage would've been incinerated.

Raikage
Sasuke's plot armor was too damn strong during that entire arc

Plot armor was strong for Raikage. Sasuke had multiple occasions to put him in genjutsu, which he never did.

 

[Chisengan11]

Raikage was fighting recklessly too don't forget that, he just wanted to avenge his brother.

Honestly I would say Sasuke would have fared much easier if he had a tad bit more experience with his MS. Not to mention most of his techniques were being countered too.

Plus we forget that Sasuke barely used his Genjutsu, albeit not on the same scale as Itachi, still works wonders in the long run for example what he did to Danzo by manipulating his eye to make it seem as if he had one left.

I agree

 

[Chisengan11]

Considering how fast Ay moves, how is he getting struck in Genjutsu?

Cuz madara did it to him

 

[ComplexCity]

No one has proof of anything so both sides are baseless. IMO it would have been tied. Sasuke had a huge gap in the middle of his Sussano but Ay would have died from the flames

 

[Chisengan11]

The very best case scenario for the Raikage is that he ended up as a potato.

lol what

 

[The Demon Hawk]

I still beleive the Raikage would have won mid to high diff with his Lightning Armor.

Because you just can't stand Sasuke winning...

Just enton doesn't really counter the Raikage's strike. I could be on fire and still be dancing for a while. I can't remember amaterasu burning something quickly, never mind instantly.

Don't think anyone present could seal the flames off of Raikage either.

Amaterasu doesn't need to burn him instantly or quickly. The point is it would be all over the Raikage, and it can't be extinguished once it's set. It can takes it's time to burn him off completely. Raikage would turn into a midget if he cut his body parts from that.

His Susan'oo would have been crushed. It would have just gotten to his leg and he would have cut it off.

Wouldn't Susanoo getting crushed thrust the Raikage even further into the attack covering his entire body in flames?

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Exactly.

Raikage's final blow would leave Sasuke dead/nearly dead although leaving Raikage burning to death or without a leg.

The most that would happen to Sasuke would be that his Susanoo would get completely destroyed and he'd be injured. For Raikage, however, he'd be completely engulfed in Amaterasu flames progressing towards a slow, inevitable and painful death.

Your right but is the Raikage hit connected they were both dead period
No one won the fight.

Sasuke wasn't entirely vulnerable. Susanoo protected him.

My thing is if Sasuke would've tanked the stomp wit Susanoo, why use Enton at all?

The raikage is a tenured fighter. After seeing what Amaterasu did to him, he's not gonna risk doing another attack that'll burn him unless that attck was a fatal one

For further damage. Susanoo was the defense, Amaterasu was the offense.

 

[ComplexCity]

yeah, also his entire downside region was about to enter those enton spikes. he would have been literally cut all over.

OT. ay would have died or his leg removed. also soosnao was present so it could have softened the impact of the strike.

Can you show me a scan of these Enton spikes cutting anything that wasn't ice?

 

[Pukkake Pokayo]

<div class="bbWrapper"><blockquote class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-title"> <a href="/goto/post?id=19339432" class="bbCodeBlock-sourceJump" data-xf-click="attribution" data-content-selector="#post-19339432">Chisengan11 said:</a> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent"> lol what </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink"><a>Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote>No limbs lol</div>

 

[Styles]

Sasuke would have won he tanked liger bomb with only 1 broken Susano'o rib. A leg drop would have done little to nothing. That or a draw.

 

[~Ethereal~]

Both would have died.

 

[Chisengan11]

No limbs lol

Oh lololololol yep. If he even survived to become a potato.

 

[Pukkake Pokayo]

<div class="bbWrapper"><blockquote class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-title"> <a href="/goto/post?id=19339436" class="bbCodeBlock-sourceJump" data-xf-click="attribution" data-content-selector="#post-19339436">The Demon Hawk said:</a> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent"> Because you just can't stand Sasuke winning...<br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> Amaterasu doesn't need to burn him instantly or quickly. The point is it would be all over the Raikage, and it can't be extinguished once it's set. It can takes it's time to burn him off completely. Raikage would turn into a midget if he cut his body parts from that.<br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> Wouldn't Susanoo getting crushed thrust the Raikage even further into the attack covering his entire body in flames?<br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> Exactly.<br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> The most that would happen to Sasuke would be that his Susanoo would get completely destroyed and he'd be injured. For Raikage, however, he'd be completely engulfed in Amaterasu flames progressing towards a slow, inevitable and painful death.<br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> Sasuke wasn't entirely vulnerable. Susanoo protected him.<br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> For further damage. Susanoo was the defense, Amaterasu was the offense. </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink"><a>Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote>Did you read my post? My point is that flames alone wouldn't prevent Raikage's strike and that it spreada incredibely slow. That's why I said he'd be a potato in the best case scenario, he'd lose at least half his limbs and a medic would have to keep him alive.<br /> <br /> You can seal amaterasu in a scroll btw. Cba thinking of other possible ways.</div>

 

[The Demon Hawk]

No one has proof of anything so both sides are baseless. IMO it would have been tied. Sasuke had a huge gap in the middle of his Sussano but Ay would have died from the flames

Both sides are not baseless. There are two scenarios:

1. Raikage's attack is powerful enough to crush Susanoo.
2. Susanoo tanks Raikage's attack.

Raikage's attack is powerful enough to crush Susanoo:

Sasuke: Susanoo would be completely destroyed and Sasuke would be severely injured, but lives.
Raikage: Raikage's leg would be covered in Amaterasu, and Susanoo destruction would have further thrusted Raikage towards Sasuke while crossing the flames completely engulfing his body in Amaterasu. Slow and painful death for him.

Susanoo tanks Raikage's attack:

Sasuke: Nothing happen to him.
Raikage: Leg covered in Amaterasu flames. Needs to cut leg off. Can't run at top speed without leg. Sasuke solos him.

 

[The Demon Hawk]

Did you read my post? My point is that flames alone wouldn't prevent Raikage's strike and that it spreada incredibely slow. That's why I said he'd be a potato in the best case scenario, he'd lose at least half his limbs and a medic would have to keep him alive.

I didn't say anything about preventing Raikage's strike. Amaterasu can't "block" anything. It's fire (plasma), not a solid.

I also didn't say anything about Amaterasu spreading. Amaterasu doesn't need to spread. Raikage's attack will automatically cover him in Amaterasu completely, not just the leg. Read post 59.