[Discussion] Sanji vs Capone incoming
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KingHashirama
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Vandenre1ch
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Don't pull the Oda card on something like that when he has portrayed Zoro and Sanji being on the same level for almost the entire series. (I know I mentioned Oda so don't try to reverse it).
@BSK, how is Sanji weaker? How is Bonney even debatable? Is Zoro stronger?
No its just idiotic to think sanji even has a chance against kid or any supernovas in his alliance. They are called the worst generation for a reason and were given the title of supernova which sanji wasnt. It's clear oda set this up so we know who are the strongest from this generation of pirates.
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@Bold, in which fan-fic was this ???
He portrayed Zoro and Luffy to be on the same level.. yes. But when did Zoro and Sanji in equal?? lol. Oh wait the comedic scenes yes..
Oda also displayed zoro has equaly speed as sanji but we know it's not true there rivalry is for comedic purposes. At no point was sanji=zoro because zoro=luffy until luffy got g2. Luffy>=zoro>sanji this is how it's been since the beginning
I said sanji is probably stronger than bonney he would still lose. I should of mentioned the fact that she is a lady is why he would lose. As for the others, like I said he can't beat them because they are supernovas and it would be stupid if he was stronger. Do I think they are far stronger than him, no. He would lose to all of them high diff. Yes zoro is stronger, he can beat the four you mentioned, killer and capone are his biggest threats.
Vandenre1ch
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Its not a fanfic. I'm sure Lucci didn't have a 4000 basic strength and fought Lucci while Zoro and Sanji fought Kaku and Jabra, who had 2200 and 2180 basic strength respectively. Yep. All that is fake.
Also, I said on the same level. Being equal and on the same level are different. Since when has Luffy and Zoro been portrayed to be equal or on the same level? Cause a comedic fight in chapter 112 bares little weight. I highly doubt Zoro could've beaten Crocodile, Lucci or had a better performance against Moriah.
@BSK Zoro's speed equal to Sanji?...ok....also, because they are supernovas, doesn't mean they are stronger than Sanji. Supernovas are rookie pirates with 100+ million bounties. If Usopp had a bounty that high at the time, he'd be a supernova. You think Capone, Killer Bonney or Urouge can beat Vergo?
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KingHashirama
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1 scenario? thats all?? And even in which you don't have a direct comparison of Zoro and Sanji.
@bold, comedic fight? lol no.. thats what Sanji and Zoro's bickering is. Zoro and Luffy were going to be an actual fight had it not been interfered. Bares little weight? oh please, just like the 2200 to 2180 bears little weight yea? Furthermore, with that you can only prove those 2 are on the same level.. it doesn't carry to Zoro or Sanji.. I bet he would've came close to beating them. The thing Crocodile was pure luck.. and considering the fact he took all of Luffy's damage that luffy recieved I bet he would've had a slitghly less to luffy's against moria.
"If usopp had a bounty that high at the time, he'd be a supernova".. yet Oda made sure he didn't. =D
It would be a huge disagrace if somebody who is a cook on their ship and does other stuff, was on the same level as the people who do nothing except fight.
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Zoro was a little weaker than luffy during the the alabasta arc. Zoro would just be a bad match up against crocodile. Luffy vs zoro could go either way extreme diff. After luffy got g2/g3 it was clear he was stronger.
In the Davy back fight during the foot race zoro was running at the same speed as sanji and they were arguing. Zoro is not as fast as sanji but in this comedic duel they were potrayed to be equal in speed. There rivalry is completely comedic.
But they didn't have a bounty over 100 million and oda did that for a reason. Can they beat vergo? Its hard to say. I believe he can beat bonney without a doubt.
Vandenre1ch
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So its all about disgrace and status? Zoro and Sanji are the top 3 fighers of the SH crew. Whats so disgraceful about Zoro and Sanji being on the same level like they have been portrayed throughout the series? It was portrayed in Arlong Park, Alabasta, Skypia, Enies Lobby, in Thriller Bark and Fishman Island. A bit in Punk Hazard as well.
What I said about Usopp stands firm. Reason Kidd has a 315 million bounty is because of all the civilian casualties he caused. You making it sound like bounties equal strength. Chinjao has a 500+ million bounty so I guess that makes him stronger than Luffy n' Law.
Are you seriously disregarding Zoro and Sanji's fights with Kaku and Jabra? Because of Luffy vs Zoro? Ok then. If Luffy and Zoro were 100% even at that time(112), then Luffy is far n' beyond Zoro. No reason for you to say Luffy equal to or barely stronger than Zoro. G2 set them apart, G3 extended the gap and G4 extended it even further. Its would be foolish to say Zoro had more progression than Luffy over the timeskip.
That would make it his third official loss if he loses to Capone. With his injuries from Doflamingo, I'm not 100% sure. We barely know how strong Capone is but if I had to guess it would be Sanji at high diff.
Chinjao was not at his strongest. To our knowledge you can't decrease your bounty so at one point he was worth 500 million. This dude is old and we know he probably fought garp more than once.
I want to say that luffy and zoro actually got into a real fight and zoro said he wanted to know who was stronger. There fight wasn't like a still pictures with zoro swinging his sword and and Sanji kick in a comedic fight or name calling. It was a completely different fight. The only comedic part was nami punching them since that was the best way to actually end the fight without there being a winner since luffy wasn't listening to zoro.
