Hebi Sasuke vs Kakuzu

[KCN]

So this is a sensitive topic I see...

 

[Mihael Keehl]

Zexion, you should let this go, Kakuzu is strong but Hebi Sasuke wins this fight more times than not.

As the most influential member of Narutobase i suggest this thread be closed down Zexion got his jimmies rustled to hell and now typing and caps and cussing smh never take it personal # 1 RULE

Are you always so modest?

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[ARGUS]

this hass been debated to death, Sasuke wins this mid/high diff

 

[NarutoX28]

5v1 and your saying Sasuke is gonna blitz Kakuzu before any of his masks attack...... lol ok. Even if that does happen he can take one of his masks heart and revive himself and I doubt he'd just let sasuke blitz him again. Show me a scan where Sasuke is able to blitz an ataksuki member, expect tobi who trolls. He was way faster than Deidara but Deidara is still able to react.

Yes, I am.

Not only does Kakuzu require seals to perform each of the mask's ninjutsu, but he's simply faster and more reflexive as he managed to outspeed Deidara, someone within the 4.5 speed tier to the point where he considered using his stronger bombs against him and even had to resort to Landmines in order to subdue him. This is the same guy who nearly took out Team Gai + Team Kakashi with a forest-level explosion with a clone.

While I agree that he would take more precautions in order to prevent another blitz, that didn't stop Base Hebi Sasuke from nearly blitzing Deidara directly after his first attempt at blitzing him (which nearly worked) and Deidara is very perceptive as he easily maneuvored in a way in which someone as versatile as Kakashi didn't have an opportunity to attack him.

Kakuzu is simply outclassed.

 

[Worm]

I beat you guys .-.

You were camping somewhere. Billy and I should have won the first round, but Sunafgt went creative and pushed us off of a cliff.

 

[Oblivionx]

kakazu wins... he was stalemating if not over powering kakashi in taijutsu who is superior or equal to sasuke in the department.. in ninjutsu again, kakazu wins and genjutsu should not be effective either as kakazu was 5 people otherwise kakashi might have tried it...

 

[King Of Pop]

some hilarious claims being made here tho.

 

[BLAZE]

Sasuke wins mid to high diff

kakazu wins... he was stalemating if not over powering kakashi in taijutsu who is superior or equal to sasuke in the department.. in ninjutsu again, kakazu wins and genjutsu should not be effective either as kakazu was 5 people otherwise kakashi might have tried it...

This guy

 

[Mihael Keehl]

kakazu wins... he was stalemating if not over powering kakashi in taijutsu who is superior or equal to sasuke in the department.. in ninjutsu again, kakazu wins and genjutsu should not be effective either as kakazu was 5 people otherwise kakashi might have tried it...

Pretty crappy points.

Kakashi would have won against him 1 vs. 1, if he wasn't covering for Team 10.

 

[Zexion~]

Once again you sound stupid considering we are talking about C2. Not C3. I said as his C2 got larger it got faster. Fuck you mentioning C4 for?

You said Deidara's bombs get faster when bigger, be more specific next time. But nah as I said there is no proof to that.

The Manga outright shows that they got faster. I don't care about your explanations when feats already disagree with everything you are saying. Your premise doesn't even make a shred of sense considering you are implying that numbers and repeated attacks are what caused Sasuke to get hit, even though Deidara fired his bombs one at a time with time in between each one, so how does anything you are saying make sense? Sasuke dodged the first two, then Deidara fired a larger one and Sasuke couldn't evade at all. Thus it got faster. Not rocket science.

Bruh what feats show this? Deidara let Sasuke know if he moved he would be blasted to hell by the mines

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and Sasuke even acknowledged that he would be hit by his bombs

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(Upper right scan) He knew he had no choice but to defend with his wings, he couldn't dodge due to mines.

Bold is where I stopped taking this part of your argument seriously. Lmfao. "No need for proof" he says. :lol

And look. I must be a prophet because you literally come with the same bullshit I expected you to come with. I don't give a mother****ing shit if it is made to crush. That is not instant proof that it can crush whatever it hits, nor is that instant proof it will bypass Sasuke's wings and crush his body.

:lol It is, as its pressure this isn't another solid object striking the wing, nor is it one force acting in one direction on the wing its all around, its questionable in the first place if he could react and place himself under BOTH wings anyways. It would collapse the wings onto his body, at the very least it would render his wings unusable so he can't take shit ever again.

Not sure what is wrong with you people and proof as of late. Stop saying "extreme air pressure" when I've explained this shit to you over a dozen times now. This is not the same as some ****ing airplane getting a hole in it. (a shitty example you used in the past) Another reason why I'm not arguing this match up with you, because you will leave and come back with the same BS arguments.

No you've never explained anything, you do the same thing you're doing now :lol Just state that its not the same without any reasoning. The description states it causes extreme air pressure...its not a hyperbole its not a euphemism its the ****ing description and science dictates that extreme air pressure = crushing. How strong is it? We'll never know but like I said even if it can't get through Sasuke's ultimate defense (.-.) It would batter him as just being in such high pressure puts a toll on the body.

And the gian/thread follow up nonsense obviously isn't going to work since:

1. You are suggesting he uses it so that Sasuke is caught near the center, because you seem to believe that it is harder to dodge from far away. (LMFAO)

Kakuzu can be wherever he wants in the blast as Domu tanks it .-. So threads still work, he could store the lightning mask in his back and release it after the jutsu is over. Hell no reason he can't just turn around and fire Gian from his back. The jutsu are still usable when in his body (Do I really need scans).

2. We've seen how large Atsugai is.

Not large enough to break through Sasuke's wing apparently

3. Are you honestly suggesting that Atsugai resolves and then before Sasuke can stand up Gian/Threads comes at him from over 20m away and he can't react? He can't do it before the attack for obvious reasons, nor can he do it during the attack for obvious reasons, and if he waits till after, Sasuke easily evades the attacks with zero real feats.

Like I said even if he tanks it he'd be battered and don't forget air pressure also causes victims to become lightheaded and disorientated but I know you're not one for applying real science :lol.

Kakuzu could always just throw in his Katon which ****s up Sasuke bad.

Only the immature ass kids who get mad because they can't best me in an argument cry about me being arrogant, when in reality I'm not. Lmfao. If I come off as arrogant, it's either because you are:

-A fanboy.
-A fanboy who is saying stupid shit.
-A fanboy who is saying stupid shit who got owned by me.
-A regular poster who said stupid shit and got owned by me.

Ughhhhhh I was clearly in my feelings last night, no need to even entertain this if you were such a good debater you would be fine just debating the points without adding irrelevant attempts at my feelings.

Lmfao. Sound like Draegod and unorthodox with this BS.

Ow

Except my post wasn't meant to show how the fight played out in the first place. So why the hell would my comparisons have anything to do with the fight? Then there is the fact that I never compared anything to anyone or vice versa. I only stated the REAL feats of Kakuzu's jutsu and not the over exaggerated BS you toss out on the daily.

If you state actual feats but then downplay them for no reason with negative connotations its BS.

It's called FEATS. Something we don't ignore when our fav is on the losing end of them.

:/ :/ :/

-Atsugai. Zero speed feats besides getting evaded by a distracted Kakashi who was in mid air, point blank range no less.
-Gian. Only speed feat is getting intercepted by Kakashi, who is slower than Hebi Sasuke by feats and hype, especially when he uses his Curse Mark.

Why does Curse Mark make him so fast? Literally whenever he has used it the fights he's in get slower :lol. Its all hype.



Like I said I don't really care if they're fast or not as Sasuke can't evade them continuously or one after the other. Also Gian was fired at what, a good 30 meters? Kakashi seeing through the jutsu is what saved them, yes Sasuke has it as well but if its fired at closer range its harder to dodge.

Hebi Sasuke has issues dodging the first 2 uses of C2. Hebi Sasuke can't even evade the 3rd one and is forced to block with his wing. And that was from a good 10m+ away.

10+ <<<25-30

-Kakashi saw it before it was happening
-Was THAT far away
-Barely made it
-5 Meters or less closer and he wouldn't have made it. Yet you doubt its speed? Do you not understand that speed is DISTANCE/ Time? It was a great distance and it still took seconds. Lesser the distance and its faster Sasuke who ISN'T THAT MUCH FASTER THAN KAKASHI is going to need to focus to avoid it. Especially if used after an attack that already puts him on edge.

If only this was my argument. If only I said any of this. Lmfao. Why don't you stop replying to me and start replying to the people who've actually made these claims.

I have.



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hanks for proving my point. Sasuke needed more than speed to take Deidara out and flight was one of his reasons. Please show me where Kakashi was "keeping up" with Deidara in the air? Please explain how this would even matter when being able to keep up on the gorund literally means nothing.

How does it mean nothing? :lol

If only this had anything to do with my point.

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Smh. READ BEFORE YOU REPLY FOR THE LOVE OF ALL THAT IS GOOD AND HOLY.

Those are reasons why Sasuke needed more than SPEED. Where did I claim that C4 was fast?

You claimed that because Deidara had C4 he must be fast .-.

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Nope. He was clearly standing up, which isn't surprising considering the time Deidara left between both uses of C2. Sasuke was too slow to evade and that is a fact. Which is a

Nah, I mixed up the uses of C2 but Sasuke himself stated that he couldn't avoid it due to the mines.

Spoiler

NOT EVEN BOTHERING BECAUSE ALL OF THIS IS ****ING IRRELEVANT.

DO YOU NOT ****ING UNDERSTAND HOW THIS FIGHT WOULD ****ING GO DOWN.

Sasuke can avoid everything he ****ing wants, but the fact of the matter is never in his life would he ever blitz Kakuzu not when he couldn't blitz Deidara that's just how it is. Kakashi is a ****ing fast dude, and not once did he get anywhere near Kakuzu.

Do people not ****ing understand that these jutsu's are not going to stop Sasuke already ****ing showed he was faster than Deidara's bombs...but what happened eventually he was overwhelmed and got hit with one.

if you ****ing think Sasuke is going to bounce around dodging 3 large scale jutsu and massive amounts of threads and succesfully be able to land a hit on Kakuzu with his 5 extra ****ing meters of range you're a lunatic.

If you're just going to come back and spout "CM2" tanks you're an idiot at best it can tank katon, but even then if Kakuzu decides to use that time as a ploy to add fuuton while he covers himself he gets roasted.

Or if he fires Gian at the Sasuke who has now covered his eyes with his ****ing wings.


I COULD GO AND COUNTER YOUR IDIOTIC BOTTOM PARAGRAPH BUT I WONT BECAUSE IT DOESN'T MATTER EITHER WAY

Only ****ing thing that gives Sasuke the chance of winning this fight is Manda I don't give two ****s how fast he is, Kakuzu's jutsu are fast e-****ing-nough to keep Sasuke on edge and win this battle.


Yes i'm swearing because this matchup, and every ****ing matchup has just gone into debates about ****ing speed, that is 99% of the versus section at this point and its pathetic, Sasuke has shown that he needs more than speed to tangle with an opponent who has less fast jutsu, and less wide scale in Deidara. So why everyone claims he just needs speed to beat Kakuzu who went up against the fastest shinobi at the time. Is ridiculous.


Btw the first part was you downplayed Kakuzu so i sent some shots at Sasuke nothing serious.


Also please inform me of when Sasuke was CONFIRMED faster than Kakashi? I'll wait because he wasn't.

Makes that post, has the nerve to say he wasn't butthurt and wasn't firing shots. Lmfao. If you are going to do something, do us all a favor and own up to it.

No, I don't care to argue how this battle goes down with a guy I've argued this same match up with before in the past only to have no conclusion. If my opinion wasn't needed then your dumbass shouldn't have taken the time to reply to my post in the first place. If I wanted to argue Hebi Sasuke vs. Kakuzu, I would've made an argument. I didn't make a post to have your asshurt self reply to me with counters to arguments I never even made, nor would've made anyway. Smh.

Ughhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh Okaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay

If you didn't want a reply, you shouldn't have replied. It does not get any simpler than that.

Don't sub me then my man.

-Blitzed Naruto. No reaction.

A passive Naruto :lol Woah.

-Evaded Deidara's C2.

Which has no other feats bar Sasuke there is literally nothing to differentiate its speed from Kakuzu's jutsu.

-Has Curse Mark, which enhances speed.

This increases foot speed, I don't see why it would boost his shunsin by much if at all.

-Reacted to and Evaded V1 B's Lariat in an injured state, a state physically inferior to his Curse Mark Hebi self.

Same V1 B a much less fast Kisame was also dealing with easily?

Now please, show me pre War Arc Kakashi's feats.

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-Keeping up with a Healthier Itachi than the one Hebi Sasuke was getting trolled by.

-Intercepting Deidara's explosive

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That Gaara's sand could barely keep up with. (Its Larger than normal birds so it must be faster .-.)

-Blitzing pain within the ST interval (When Asura blocked him)

-Dodging Kakuzu's attacks (There is literally no comparison to be made between C2 and The jutsu) How can you conclude that C2 is faster despite it being shown to take longer than in the manga. What if Kakashi is just that much faster than Sasuke neither of them had very good feats at the time.

1. No. Sasuke and Kakashi's base speeds are equal in the databook. Not sure where you got this from, but it obviously isn't fact.

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4.5 for both.

They def just changed that.

2. Got any proof for Kakashi having better chakra control than Sasuke? Lmfao. Should've already known you'd have to prove that.

Raikiri?

3. Shunshin takes chakra amount used, chakra control, and the strength of the chakra into account when the speed is determined. Sasuke's chakra is far more potent than Kakashi's and he has far more chakra than Kakashi.

Uh what? Kakashi uses something that takes a good amount MORE chakra than Sasuke on a regular basis while also his use of Sharingan drains chakra. Not to mention isn't CM still just Oro's chakra? It makes him potent yeah but was it said it grants him more of it.

4. On top of having the Shunshin advantage, Sasuke has Curse Mark to bolster his speed.

As i've said that doesn't up his Shunshin at all, and where is this advantage.

Yet somehow Kakashi is faster? What tremendous speed feat does he even have pre War Arc that'd make him superior to Sasuke?

Sasuke has no feats either, just all hype. Kakashi was hyped to be the fastest shinobi in the leaf by the god of thunder himself :lol Why do you think Sasuke couldn't use Raikiri.

Literally Sasuke is all hype.

If you want to argue Hebi Sasuke vs. Kakuzu, please go do it with someone who has the rest of the morning as time to waste.

It was definitely the P.M when you answered this.

 

[New Dawn]

Kakuzu wins whether u fodder ****s like it or not.

 

[KidGamer65]

Bruh what feats show this? Deidara let Sasuke know if he moved he would be blasted to hell by the mines

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and Sasuke even acknowledged that he would be hit by his bombs

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(Upper right scan) He knew he had no choice but to defend with his wings, he couldn't dodge due to mines.

Then I'll agree that they didn't get faster, but now you've just proven my point that continuous attacks are not the reason Sasuke was unable to dodge C2. So this has nothing to do with Kakuzu at all as he cannot replicate a scenario where Sasuke literally has nowhere to run.

:lol It is, as its pressure this isn't another solid object striking the wing, nor is it one force acting in one direction on the wing its all around, its questionable in the first place if he could react and place himself under BOTH wings anyways. It would collapse the wings onto his body, at the very least it would render his wings unusable so he can't take shit ever again.

When you have the proof of it being this powerful then we can talk. Otherwise, there is nothing to say here. Just you overrating this technique yet again.

No you've never explained anything, you do the same thing you're doing now :lol Just state that its not the same without any reasoning. The description states it causes extreme air pressure...its not a hyperbole its not a euphemism its the ****ing description and science dictates that extreme air pressure = crushing. How strong is it? We'll never know but like I said even if it can't get through Sasuke's ultimate defense (.-.) It would batter him as just being in such high pressure puts a toll on the body.

Smh. Read the databook, for the love of God. The only reason this argument even exists is because you are either twisting what the databook says to fit your argument, or you are failing to read it correctly.

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Air pressure is compacted, raised to the extreme, and then released. This has nothing to do with the air pressure of the actual air around you starts to increase, making it hard for your body to take it. What's worse is that you are comparing human bodies to Ninja's. Smh.

This is almost the same exact principle Hirudora follows.

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Where do you see Hirudora doing any of this extra nonsense to Kisame when it was used? Nowhere. He only had bruises from the explosion of the attack. None of this nonsense you are talking about is going to happen. Sasuke takes Atsugai and lives. No evidence it's as strong as C2.

Kakuzu can be wherever he wants in the blast as Domu tanks it .-. So threads still work, he could store the lightning mask in his back and release it after the jutsu is over. Hell no reason he can't just turn around and fire Gian from his back. The jutsu are still usable when in his body (Do I really need scans).

It's irrelevant if he can be in the blast when his threads can't take the blast nor can Gian go through the blast since it'd just be nullified as Fuuton>Wind. Lol. Why in the world would you even suggest he fires threads at Sasuke inside a Fuuton attack? Why would you even suggest he uses RAITON in a stronger FUUTON attack. Lmfao.

If he fires after the blast is over, then everything I've already stated comes to pass. Sasuke evades with literally no effort.

Not large enough to break through Sasuke's wing apparently

Not with it's piss poor feats.

Like I said even if he tanks it he'd be battered and don't forget air pressure also causes victims to become lightheaded and disorientated but I know you're not one for applying real science :lol.

Do us all a favor and read above. Why would he be battered? At best his wings would take damage, not his body. Not to mention Ninja fight at extremely high heights w/o feeling any of the effects of Atmospheric pressure, so where is this argument even coming from? Stop comparing human bodies to Ninja bodies when the latter have shown to be better in literally every single way.

Kakuzu could always just throw in his Katon which ****s up Sasuke bad.

Finally, something that makes sense. That's why evading it is the best answer, at least until he's taken care of the fire mask.

Ughhhhhh I was clearly in my feelings last night, no need to even entertain this if you were such a good debater you would be fine just debating the points without adding irrelevant attempts at my feelings.

If you don't wanna get attacked, don't attack in the first place. Lmfao.

If you state actual feats but then downplay them for no reason with negative connotations its BS.

You joking?

Atsugai's speed feats:

-Getting dodged by a slower Kakashi while he was in mid air no less.

Gian's speed feats:

-Getting intercepted by Kakashi, who is again, slower than Sasuke.

Thread's speed feats:

-Blitzing Fodder Ino and Fodder Choji and a tired Kakashi from less than 3 meters away. All of who

These are literally the feats of the jutsu you are putting on such a high pedestal.

-Did Kakashi not dodge Atsugai?
-Did Gian not get intercepted by Kakashi from out of nowhere?
-Did his threads not blitz a tired Kakashi and two weak ass Shinobi?

Or am I lying about this now? Cause around 9 people agree and I'm pretty sure they read the same Manga I did.

Why does Curse Mark make him so fast? Literally whenever he has used it the fights he's in get slower :lol. Its all hype.

Smh. Since when? I'd love to see proof of this. Is that going to be your only counter when people say Sasuke is fast? "It's all hype?". Even though we have scans of Sasuke saying that 2-Tomoe w/ Curse Mark=3-Tomoe when it comes to overall speed? Lmao. Curse Mark makes him faster. That's a fact.

Like I said I don't really care if they're fast or not as Sasuke can't evade them continuously or one after the other. Also Gian was fired at what, a good 30 meters? Kakashi seeing through the jutsu is what saved them, yes Sasuke has it as well but if its fired at closer range its harder to dodge.

Never said he could. Bold is an assumption, regardless, it's irrelevant to mention. Sasuke evades it. If Kakashi can come from nowhere and block it, then the faster guy is obviously going to do so, easier.

10+ <<<25-30

I really hope you aren't talking about Gian here.

-Kakashi saw it before it was happening

Assumption and nigh irrelevant.

-Was THAT far away
-Barely made it

More like, easily intercepted it without difficulty despite being nowhere near said technique. Why do you keep using that as a speed feat? Lmfao. That's not a speed feat.

-5 Meters or less closer and he wouldn't have made it. Yet you doubt its speed? Do you not understand that speed is DISTANCE/ Time? It was a great distance and it still took seconds. Lesser the distance and its faster Sasuke who ISN'T THAT MUCH FASTER THAN KAKASHI is going to need to focus to avoid it. Especially if used after an attack that already puts him on edge.

Please read above.

How does it mean nothing? :lol

Being able to keep up on the ground doesn't mean that speed is all he needs to take out Deidara.

You claimed that because Deidara had C4 he must be fast .-

I explicitly stated that Deidara having C4 is one of the reasons Sasuke needed more than speed to fight him.

Nah, I mixed up the uses of C2 but Sasuke himself stated that he couldn't avoid it due to the mines.

Addressed.

A passive Naruto :lol Woah.

Irrelevant. Unless you are going to claim that Naruto not wanting to fight means that Naruto isn't going to defend himself, then I suggest we stop mentioning this.

Which has no other feats bar Sasuke there is literally nothing to differentiate its speed from Kakuzu's jutsu.

Almost getting Sasuke is a speed feat.

This increases foot speed, I don't see why it would boost his shunsin by much if at all.

Smh. That's like saying Sage Mode doesn't increase Shunshin speed when they are literally the same concept except Sage Mode is much stronger. Curse Mark enhances speed. Period.

Same V1 B a much less fast Kisame was also dealing with easily?

B didn't even use Shunshin on him. B was outmaneuvering him in CQC, which doesn't require as much raw speed as actually evading a full speed V1 B coming at you.

-Keeping up with a Healthier Itachi than the one Hebi Sasuke was getting trolled by.

Please show me where Itachi was outspeeding Sasuke? Cause the only time he did so was when he used crows to blind his vision. In fact, show me where he was keeping up with Itachi's speed. I'll wait.

-Intercepting Deidara's explosive

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That Gaara's sand could barely keep up with. (Its Larger than normal birds so it must be faster .-.)

Scans of Gaara's Sand failing to keep up with Deidara's bombs, cause I remember Gaara blocking every single attack bar the surprise attack from inside.

-Blitzing pain within the ST interval (When Asura blocked him)

Lmfao. do you know what a blitz is?

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They had the dude bound and immobile yet somehow you are actually claiming that this is a blitz? What's worse is that he got intercepted by a slower path of Pain during this "blitz".

-Dodging Kakuzu's attacks (There is literally no comparison to be made between C2 and The jutsu) How can you conclude that C2 is faster despite it being shown to take longer than in the manga. What if Kakashi is just that much faster than Sasuke neither of them had very good feats at the time.

Bold was never shown, and the only jutsu that even has remotely any good speed feats would be Gian. The rest? No.

They def just changed that.

Lmfao. Nope. It's always been 4.5

Raikiri?

Sasuke has:

-Senbon
-Katana
-Nagashi

Try again.

Uh what? Kakashi uses something that takes a good amount MORE chakra than Sasuke on a regular basis while also his use of Sharingan drains chakra. Not to mention isn't CM still just Oro's chakra? It makes him potent yeah but was it said it grants him more of it.

Since when did using more chakra=More chakra control? Or are you actually trying to imply that Kakashi has more chakra than Sasuke. Lmfao. Go ahead, state it. I'm gonna pretend you aren't serious. Yes, CM is Orochimaru's Senjutsu Chakra and it grants him more of it, hence his ability to use Chidori a 3rd time in Part 1 during his fight with Naruto.

As i've said that doesn't up his Shunshin at all, and where is this advantage.

Except it does. Why in the world would Curse Mark, Senjutsu, not boost his speed when Senjutsu has boosted everyone's speed, Shunshin included.

Sasuke has no feats either, just all hype. Kakashi was hyped to be the fastest shinobi in the leaf by the god of thunder himself :lol Why do you think Sasuke couldn't use Raikiri.

So Kakashi was hyped to be the fastest shinobi in the leaf by an imaginary character? I'm still waiting for that scan cause I have literally no idea what you are talking about. Raikiri has jack to do with speed so why are you even mentioning it? He couldn't use Raikiri in Part 1 because he was a kid. He didn't in Part 2 cause he has no real reason to learn it. The power of Chidori is determinant on the chakra potency of the user. That's why Sasuke's Chidori post Hagoromo's chakra is FAR stronger than any Raikiri from Kakashi.

Literally Sasuke is all hype.

Not really.

It was definitely the P.M when you answered this.

Bruh, that was 1 something in the morning. Your time zone is the same as mine so....dafuq? :|

 

[Oblivionx]

Pretty crappy points.

Kakashi would have won against him 1 vs. 1, if he wasn't covering for Team 10.

how are these crappy points? kakashi would have won with MS sure and that too if we give him later arc feats... or if you think 3T kakashi could have won then dude, i'd like to know which weed you use...

 

[Mellow]

Kakazu extreme high diff

 

[EZQ]

I'd like to say Kakuzu wins. But damn, i can't. Sasuke has a lot of advantages. He wins med-high diff.

 

[Brother Numpsay]

Smh. READ BEFORE YOU REPLY FOR THE LOVE OF ALL THAT IS GOOD AND HOLY.

Im crying.

 

[HiddenSound]

Don't worry Zex, I believe you c:

dont read this part zex, really guys sasuke wins :c

 

[ToshiZO]

Not exactly. He outclasses Kakuzu in every possible way in CQC, so he can easily strike him down before any of his masks use a jutsu and even then, it requires a seal in order for Kakuzu to do so making his Masks useless.

What in the hell is this?

Hebi Sasuke has means to beat Kakuzu, but lol at people saying he outclasses him in CQC. Kakashi was getting wrecked in CQC, Sasuke isn't that much better if any better at all.

Pretty crappy points.

Kakashi would have won against him 1 vs. 1, if he wasn't covering for Team 10.

Covering for team 7? IIRC he only had to use Raikiri to save them once, past that he was covering his own ass.

 

[TheUnbiasedOne]

Sasuke wins due to the simple fact that 3T Kakashi in that arc was on equal footing with Kakuzu, and Hebi Sasuke has much better feats.

And to those saying he can't replicate Kakashi feats.
1. He doesn't need to. His speed has been shown to be far superior, and he only didn't use it against Deidara due to Mines.
2. Kakashi wasn't clashing, he was channeling the lightning, had he clashed, it would've led to an explosion. Sasuke has far greater master over raiton.
3. Sasuke has stronger chakra than Kakashi therefore, his Raiton is stronger than Kakashi's as long as the techniques are comparable.


He can use his Katana to cut the wires, his Senbon to keep masks at bay, he can take advantage of Kakuzus fire mask for Kirin. Any quick hits Kakuzu could even manage to take, could be negated by body shedding, and his Snakes, capable of restraining Jugo and Suigetsu at the Same time, should be able to restrain the masks.

Sasuke High Diff, and even then, only due to his basic chakra reserves at the time.