Hebi Sasuke vs Kakuzu

[KCN]

Knowledge is full
Location is Kakuzu vs Kakashi/Team Asuma
Distance is 30m

 

[Chīkara]

Hebi Sasuke. Hands down no doubt about it.

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[Beans2]

I think Sasuke takes it mid diff.

-Raiton jutsu to get past Domu.
-CM2 tanks Katon or Fuuton. Katon+Fuuton combo can be blocked by Manda or smaller snake summons [

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-Sasuke can stalemate Raiton: Gian with chidori like Kakashi did with [

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] although Chidori is weaker than Raikiri Sasuke can channel excess electricity through his body with Chidori Nagashi plus he's shown a degree of resistance to Raiton [

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-Threads can be sliced away with chidori katana or broken away by entering CM2 like snakes were here [

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[Zexion~]

I think Sasuke takes it mid diff.

-Raiton jutsu to get past Domu.

What raiton is reaching Kakuzu? :lol

-CM2 tanks Katon or Fuuton. Katon+Fuuton combo can be blocked by Manda or smaller snake summons [

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Kakuzu's fuuton is > Deidara's explosives in speed, Kakashi was barely able to avoid it from directly in front of it. Katon travels on the ground so Sasuke can't just tank it with his wing.

-Sasuke can stalemate Raiton: Gian with chidori like Kakashi did with [

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] although Chidori is weaker than Raikiri Sasuke can channel excess electricity through his body with Chidori Nagashi plus he's shown a degree of resistance to Raiton [

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Uh what fam? Scans of Sasuke using THREE chidori's at once because that's what it would take to do that as Nagashi is just chidori's electricity fanned out over his body.

Resisting something that shocks you =/= Resisting something that would rip right through you, terrible argument.

-Threads can be sliced away with chidori katana or broken away by entering CM2 like snakes were here
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Uh, second one is doubtful threads are thinner but much more flexible than snakes which have thick insides. They would just adjust deny Sasuke the ability to lift his wings (which is what i'm assuming broke through the snakes)

 

[Beans2]

Zex, i'm only going to reply once.

What raiton is reaching Kakuzu? :lol

Close range Raiton. Sasuke has superior footspeed, reactions, shunshin, precog, taijutsu etc closing the distance will not be hard. Any threads in the way get sliced through with Raiton katana. Besides Raiton Spear has a range of five meters, getting that close to Kakuzu is not difficult at all. Keeping him at bay with elemental ninjutsu is not working since Sasuke will counter them, and take out the masks one at a time.

Kakuzu's fuuton is > Deidara's explosives in speed, Kakashi was barely able to avoid it from directly in front of it. Katon travels on the ground so Sasuke can't just tank it with his wing.

Kakashi was at point blank range and evaded, Sasuke can just evade with his footspeed or tank with CM2. Katon can be blocked with snakes or tanked by CM2 by putting his wing on the ground? Fire doesn't erupt from the ground so it doesn't matter.

Uh what fam? Scans of Sasuke using THREE chidori's at once because that's what it would take to do that as Nagashi is just chidori's electricity fanned out over his body.

Sasuke can use Chidori Nagashi and Chidori at the same time much like the Third Raikage can use Raiton shroud and Nukite at the same time. No reason why he can't. Kakashi already used four Raikiri in one battle against Kakuzu.

Resisting something that shocks you =/= Resisting something that would rip right through you, terrible argument.

Except Sasuke has Raiton jutsu to counter on top of that, and there's CM2 which offers even more resistance.

Uh, second one is doubtful threads are thinner but much more flexible than snakes which have thick insides. They would just adjust deny Sasuke the ability to lift his wings (which is what i'm assuming broke through the snakes)

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[Zexion~]

Zex, i'm only going to reply once.

Arrogance.

Close range Raiton. Sasuke has superior footspeed, reactions, shunshin, precog, taijutsu etc closing the distance will not be hard.

You mean like Kakashi had? When did he ever get close to Kakuzu? EVER. Sasuke couldn't blitz Deidara who was blitzed by a weaker Naruto without any clone feints.

Any threads in the way get sliced through with Raiton katana. Besides Raiton Spear has a range of five meters, getting that close to Kakuzu is not difficult at all. Keeping him at bay with elemental ninjutsu is not working since Sasuke will counter them, and take out the masks one at a time.

Lets not forget Kakuzu was keeping up with Kakashi in CQC

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So his abilities although weren't shown are easily judged to be considerable.

How exactly does Sasuke counter Kakuzu's jutsu...if sprinting directly towards him? If the masks fire from the side/behind while he's busy going for Kakuzu he'll be put at a huge disadvantage, and Pre-Cog may not even be active as he wouldn't be looking. Directly Blitzing Kakuzu is an idiotic move. He can avoid the jutsu sure, but each time he avoids his focus gets less and lesson Kakuzu himself until he ends up just like a faster Kakashi did

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So Sasuke is going to get 5 Meters away and then use Chidori Spear? Before Kakuzu can use his threads which blitzed three people form a similar distance without them being able to react AT ALL

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Nah, he'd never get that close anyways though.

Also Why you think he can pick out each heart one by one when they can fly/glide and move with adequate mobility to avoid Sasuke enough to fire off jutsu which puts him on the defensive.

Kakashi was at point blank range and evaded, Sasuke can just evade with his footspeed or tank with CM2. Katon can be blocked with snakes or tanked by CM2 by putting his wing on the ground? Fire doesn't erupt from the ground so it doesn't matter.

Yes at point blank range. Let me quickly sum up how this jutsu works for all who read because people don't seem to understand

-Its originally a B rank jutsu, so it firstly fires off a blast of wind, (just a basic blast really not meant to be deadly) that Kakashi gets hit with

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(it blew off his shirt and shit) however Kakuzu having mastery over the element is able to then mold the blast of wind into a S rank hurricane like jutsu

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Kakashi even with pre-cog couldn't avoid the base blast, however he could avoid the explosion Kakuzu initiates afterwards (it explodes means that the transition is near instant) So being point blank range was an advantage as he could quickly hop BEHIND the mask since he was at such a close range, plus it helps that they were BOTH in the air. However should the jutsu be cast downwards at Sasuke or at a greater distance it would be harder for him to escape that second explosion, as it instantly explodes into something this large. (Look how far back it cleared the tree's

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Sasuke can use Chidori Nagashi and Chidori at the same time much like the Third Raikage can use Raiton shroud and Nukite at the same time. No reason why he can't. Kakashi already used four Raikiri in one battle against Kakuzu.

Four at the same time? And besides, how would one more chidori protect against something that is equal to TWO Raikiri

3 Chidori << 2 Raikiri and it was completely negated so they are exactly equal (Raikiri and Gian)

Except Sasuke has Raiton jutsu to counter on top of that, and there's CM2 which offers even more resistance.

He cant slice when he's caught in threads though? Nagashi is a paralyzing jutsu so its useless as the threads aren't alive :lol



Don't know why people assume elemental advantage automatically means a combatant wins. Sasuke is basically the same as Kakashi at that time but with 5 meters of extra range but that won't be enough.

 

[KCN]

Gian was only countered via Raikiri as Kakashi had to protect Ino and Shikamaru's slow asses. Sasuke's Shunshin with reflexes augmented by precog evades it with the utmost ease, especially considering how linear it is. In general, I agree completely with Beans.

 

[TRE MERCER]

Sasuke shits.

Beans explained above and also what in Kakuzu arsenal can bypass Manda durability?

@Zexion- Blitzing a tired and beaten Kakashi plus Ino and Choji shouldn't even be worth mentioning let's be honest here. Also how does he get past Manda durability?​

 

[Zexion~]

Gian was only countered via Raikiri as Kakashi had to protect Ino and Shikamaru's slow asses. Sasuke's Shunshin with reflexes augmented by precog evades it with the utmost ease, especially considering how linear it is. In general, I agree completely with Beans.

He can avoid it (although it was used a good like 20 meters away there .-. so calm yourself it won't be "With ease" from a closer distance) However after avoiding it how will he fare immediately dodging Kakuzu's fuuton?

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Read the caption :lol

 

[TheAncientCenturion]

Sasuke wins, he's always won, everyone knows this.

Get with the times Zex.

 

[KCN]

He can avoid it (although it was used a good like 20 meters away there .-. so calm yourself it won't be "With ease" from a closer distance) However after avoiding it how will he fare immediately dodging Kakuzu's fuuton?

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Read the caption :lol

Okay? That databook panel overwanking Gian means nothing. It's shown nothing for me to believe it even gives Sasuke problems.

Kakazu's futon is dodged at point blank range just like Kakashi did. Both have a 4.5 in speed w/ sharingan, and to be frank Sasuke has the better Shunshin feats by that point. Kakashi began to improve his base stats significantly in the war arc. Otherwise, he can erect instant snake defences like he did VS Deidara using CM2 as extra assurance.

 

[TRE MERCER]

Waiting for Zexion to reply like...

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[Worm]

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OT: Hebi Sasuke high diff.

 

[TRE MERCER]

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OT: Hebi Sasuke high diff.

Them nipples though.​

 

[Lariatoo]

Kakuzu mid diff
I know y'all keep saying those things to hurt poor Zex's feelings... Stop it guys...XD

 

[KidGamer65]

Atsugai's speed feats:

-Getting dodged by a slower Kakashi while he was in mid air no less.

Gian's speed feats:

-Getting intercepted by Kakashi, who is again, slower than Sasuke.

Thread's speed feats:

-Blitzing Fodder Ino and Fodder Choji and a tired Kakashi from less than 3 meters away. All of who are slower than Sasuke.

Smh. Hebi Sasuke wins.

 

[Black Mamba]

Hard one, Sasuke has to strike 5 of Kakazu's hearts to kill him. Imma have to go with Kakazu high-extreme diff.

 

[Beans2]

Hard one, Sasuke has to strike 5 of Kakazu's hearts to kill him. Imma have to go with Kakazu high-extreme diff.

Strike five hearts you say?

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[super yang]

Kakuzu wins. his combos are the deciding factor.
and as he is not a familiar of sasuke, but of orochimaru; kakuzu won't have to deal w/ manda

raikiri & chidori are the same jutsu & sasukes is stronger by any measure

 

[Gold Lightning]

With zero knowledge I'd go with Kakuzu. With full knowledge I still go with Kakuzu, he'll immediately bring out the other 4 hearts. I just don't see it how Sasuke deals with 5 hearts at once while dealing with Kakuzu. While Kakuzu is fighting him in CQC, the other hearts are giving the advantage to Kakuzu by blasting sasuke from afar. I just don't see how sasuke has the stamina to even attempt to defeat all 5 hearts.