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LoL this thread is stupid. Its been shown Rasengan > Chidori. And Naruto used Kurama's Chakra to enhance his Rasengan.
 

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It's not a regular rasengan. That's Kurama's chakra infused rasengan
thread should have ended right here. i really cant take seriously anyone who says that rasengan is base or normal rasengan.
 

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LoL this thread is stupid. Its been shown Rasengan > Chidori. And Naruto used Kurama's Chakra to enhance his Rasengan.
Not it wasn't. :bdpf: unless this is sarcasm.
 

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thread should have ended right here. i really cant take seriously anyone who says that rasengan is base or normal rasengan.

manga didn't state or imply that rasenga wasn't anything but ordinary. kurama gave naruto his last chakra so he could even form that rasengan.

lets wait for the anime if the rasengan looks anything like this :

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then u can say it wasn't an ordinary rasengan.
 

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manga didn't state or imply that rasenga wasn't anything but ordinary. kurama gave naruto his last chakra so he could even form that rasengan.

lets wait for the anime if the rasengan looks anything like this :

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then u can say it wasn't an ordinary rasengan.
bold. you just proved my point. he made that rasengan with the chakra he recieved from kurama(his own chakra was low). base rasengan is if he made it with his own chakra separate from kurama.

rasengan made with kyuubi chakra=kyuubi enhanced.

that simple
 

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bold. you just proved my point. he made that rasengan with the chakra he recieved from kurama(his own chakra was low). base rasengan is if he made it with his own chakra separate from kurama.

rasengan made with kyuubi chakra=kyuubi enhanced.

that simple

what point? everything he does is with kurama chakra. he's kurama's perfect jin. that doesn't mean the rasengan had any type of boost, he didn't even have a chakra cloak nothing.

that was a base rasengan from a base naruto.
 

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what point? everything he does is with kurama chakra. he's kurama's perfect jin. that doesn't mean the rasengan had any type of boost, he didn't even have a chakra cloak nothing.

that was a base rasengan from a base naruto.


The Kyuubi's chakra powers up Naruto's techniques.

Hmm nope, you were countered by what is in the manga.

Have you ever factored this in?

Naruto's power up basically just made his previous techniques which he already knew how to use stronger, the only new thing he got was the TSB, whereas Sasuke's power up made his previous techniques stronger and also gave him several new techniques in which he never had time to learn how to use, and master through training.

Sasuke didn't even use half of the Rinnegan's abilities, and while the Kyuubi was giving battle plans, and intel on their opponents abilities to Naruto, he even noted on how Sasuke being new to the Rinnegan worked in their favor.

So for you to use VOTE 2 as a way to say Naruto overall is stronger is ridiculous.
 
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Rasengan is better than chidori remember the water tank Yeah
 

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bold. you just proved my point. he made that rasengan with the chakra he recieved from kurama(his own chakra was low). base rasengan is if he made it with his own chakra separate from kurama.

rasengan made with kyuubi chakra=kyuubi enhanced.

that simple

Simple Sasuke took a whole portion that Kurama prepared and Naruto is left is a little left.
Sasuke was using Kurama chakra mean his chakra is also Chidori+amaterasu with Kurama chakra enchanced by ur logic.
So in the end by ur logic Naruto rasengan + kurama little chakra = Sasuke chidori + amaterasu + Kurama gathered chakra.
Lets just say they have equal kurama chakra ( even Naruto has a very little left)
Naruto rasengan + kurama chakra - kurama chakra = Sasuke chidori + amaterasu + Kurama chakra - kurama chakra

In the end it is same outcome. Naruto base rasengan = Sasuke chidori + amaterasu
I hope it is clear now for you ??? by ur very own logic !!!
 

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Rasengan is better than chidori remember the water tank Yeah

Chidori is a peircing move, and Rasengan is an explosion type, hence the damage it did on the building, everytime Chidori and Rasengan clashed they were equal.

Simple Sasuke took a whole portion that Kurama prepared and Naruto is left is a little left.
Sasuke was using Kurama chakra mean his chakra is also Chidori+amaterasu with Kurama chakra enchanced by ur logic.
So in the end by ur logic Naruto rasengan + kurama little chakra = Sasuke chidori + amaterasu + Kurama gathered chakra.
Lets just say they have equal kurama chakra ( even Naruto has a very little left)
Naruto rasengan + kurama chakra - kurama chakra = Sasuke chidori + amaterasu + Kurama chakra - kurama chakra

In the end it is same outcome. Naruto base rasengan = Sasuke chidori + amaterasu
I hope it is clear now for you ??? by ur very own logic !!!

We don't know how much chakra Sasuke took from the Kyuubi, it could have been more or less than the amount he gave Naruto - we don"t know for sure.

But logically, since the attacks matched each other, don't you think it would require an equal amount of chakra to do that?
 

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Chidori is a peircing move, and Rasengan is an explosion type, hence the damage it did on the building, everytime Chidori and Rasengan clashed they were equal.



We don't know how much chakra Sasuke took from the Kyuubi, it could have been more or less than the amount he gave Naruto - we don"t know for sure.

But logically, since the attacks matched each other, don't you think it would require an equal amount of chakra to do that?

Even Sasuke is smart in making jutsu and skill. But we all know that Naruto at the time is the master of master in chakra by feats.
Still if same amount, it will still come down to the same result, only base rasengan left vs chidori+amaterasu.

For me the most logically explaination is the function of Rasengan is spining constantly and that is why when it hit an object, it will cause an explosion, or like when you slam the gum it spread out / thinner. Same apply to Rasegan when it hit another attack it will spin that attack along with it and spread it out and cause the attack weaker or explode upon contact.
 

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Well, when a normal Chidori and Rasengan clash, there is enough force to blow them back a bit. They clashed with a normal Chidori infused with Amaterasu and a normal Rasengan. This time, their arms blew off. Since that doesn't happen before and Amaterasu is the factor that wasn't there before, the best conclusion is that Amaterasu caused it.

Edit: Just reread the viz translation, and Kurama did give Naruto some chakra for the Rasengan, though it wasn't much at all. It was even smaller than the Rasengan he made when he tripped on the rock and fell. If anything, Naruto made the Rasengan out of Kurama's chakra, rather than enhanced a Rasengan he made with his chakra with Kurama's.

It's logic really. It's the only new thing in the combo. Chidori/Rasengan clashes have been happening since part2. ama is really the only new thing in the equation.

Wrong. Sasuke and Naruto's Chidori and Rasengan have massively increased in power since the last time they clashed due to them getting Hagoromo's power. Last time they clashed the explosion wasn't that major. The next time they clash at VoTE, it wrecks the Hashirama and Madara statues. Using them as examples to prove Amaterasu was the cause of their lost limbs doesn't work. Especially since there is no kind of residual flame or any sign that their arms were burnt off.
 

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Hmm Rasengan Power says hello ^_^ Sorry but this is all just manga facts
Rasengan did what it was suppose to do :| it's a destructive jutsu Chidori isn't. Ramsey = Chidori is manga fact.

Hmm nope, you were countered by what is in the manga.
Even tho the manga clear as day say show and portray Naruto = Sasuke you're the only one saying they're not.
 
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