Overlooked feats: Enton >>>> Natural Energy (Mangafacts & proof inside!)

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Re: Overlooked feats: Enton >>>> Natural Energy (Mangafacts & proof inside!)

1. Ok and you're bringing up lightning why? That's irrelevant seeing how lighting is basically instant and doesnt last long enough for the tempertuare to melt anyone because it's instant. The only time the heat effects you anyway is when you get hit. Amateratsu continually burns and couldn't even melt metal. Your argument in invalid.

Lightning is instant? Quit while you are still behind, given that lightning is a million times slower than the speed of light, and even that isn't instant.

2. It doesn't matter what definition you use, it doesn't he'll your claim. It's not irrelevant you choose to ignore it, not my problem tho. The heat caused the cave is no indication that NE was destroyed or sapped

Refer back to the previous post. Also, verb and Noun and meanings do matter. Don't make yourself look more foolish than you already are. Heat was from Amaterasu and that heat affected NE; the sole ingredient that was causing the cave to come alive.

3. Baseless assumption because you also compared that to PS BD swords. If your stupid claim was correct, as much damage has the BS sustained, it should have had the NE sapped and revert to nothing. But guess what? It didn't it reverted and disappeared after Hashish lost SAGE Mode.

Irrelevant. Your intangible and tangible argument is still moronic.

4. So now heat can't damage things?

You tell me.

5. You're already a clown and KG already owned you on this topic. I honestly don't even see why you're bringing this up again when you logic has already been dismantled.

Yeah, you and him are queued up in front of the same genius banner. Trust me, that guy's grasp of semantics and science is just as pitiful as yours given that he couldn't even tell that "this isn't the same as using Chakra" from "I am not using chakra."
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Re: Overlooked feats: Enton >>>> Natural Energy (Mangafacts & proof inside!)

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1. In·stant\ˈin(t)-stənt\
noun
: a very short period of time


Yes lightning is instant wanna try and argue against the English language now?


2. Both the meanings fit the context it can be used as a noun and verb. You have no proof that it effected NE stop grasping at straws. When you show a scan of the cave reverting because NE being destroyed then you'll have an argument. You have no scans or proof. Quit talking in circles


3.And yet you can't refute it. It's not irrelevant. You stated the BS was reverted because of the NE being sapped, which I don't know how you drew such a idiotic conclusion. Obviously the Nature energy is nonexistent and dispersed after the parts buddah were destroyed because it sustained damage. Hashi's BS reverted to nothing because he lost SM. You're right about the irrelevancy because you should have never brought it up in the first place.


4. Watch Bill Nye the science guy because you seem to not know the first thing about what you claim others to be unknowledgable about. Heat can damage things herp derp :sdo:

5. You're talking about science but comparing lightning to the surface of the sun and trying to say that Amateratsu is not hyperbole. Any body with common sense knows that if any human being was near the suns surface, their skin would melt off their flesh. Then you kick so dumbness about how lightning isn't instant when the human eye can only see lightning strike for a brief second. On top of it all, you're comparing the heat of the surface of the sun to lightning when lightning doesn't burn anything or effect anything with heat unless it strikes something. You keep going on unnecessary tangents about nothing and try to justify the manga in your liking. You or Dante cannot even provide a scan of NE being destroyed. I've already explained to you how techniques are depreived of the source that fueled them (whether it be NE or chakra) once the tech has been overpowered or destroyed. The only techs that has shown to make techniques useless or based on sapping is the human path, gakido and Omyudon
 
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Re: Overlooked feats: Enton >>>> Natural Energy (Mangafacts & proof inside!)

Dude, lightning is not instant. Far from it. It's only the "Flash of Light" produced because of the expansion of gases that is near instant. You are, therefore, too foolish for any time investment. Your entire post is null and void because of how ignorant you are. It's also the same reiteration of things I have repeatedly covered.
 
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Re: Overlooked feats: Enton >>>> Natural Energy (Mangafacts & proof inside!)

Dude, lightning is not instant. Far from it. It's only the "Flash of Light" produced because of the expansion of gases that is near instant. You are, therefore, too foolish for any time investment. Your entire post is null and void because of how ignorant you are. It's also the same reiteration of things I have repeatedly covered.
:lmao:


Its can depend on air conditions, but the typical lightning bolt moves at 224,000 mph -- or about 3,700 miles per second. However, the light you see from the lightning obviously travels at the speed of light, which is roughly 670 million mph, or 186,000 miles per second.

nothing you've stated the past 4 pages has not refuted anything I said you're talking in circles and just buttpulling your fallliable logic. Have a nice day

Concession accepted :sdo:
 
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Re: Overlooked feats: Enton >>>> Natural Energy (Mangafacts & proof inside!)

:lmao:


Its can depend on air conditions, but the typical lightning bolt moves at 224,000 mph -- or about 3,700 miles per second. However, the light you see from the lightning obviously travels at the speed of light, which is roughly 670 million mph, or 186,000 miles per second.

nothing you've stated the past 4 pages has not refuted anything I said you're talking in circles and just buttpulling your fallliable logic. Have a nice day

Concession accepted :sdo:
Correct. Looks like you shot yourself in the foot with that one. Have a nice day.
 

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Re: Overlooked feats: Enton >>>> Natural Energy (Mangafacts & proof inside!)

Correct. Looks like you shot yourself in the foot with that one. Have a nice day.
in·stant\ˈin(t)-stənt\
noun
: a very short period of time

I didn't shoot myself in the foot. Lightning is instant because it moves so fast :lmao:
I'll give you more definitions if you'd like

I know you don't have an argument but come on. Don't drop to new lows that you've already sunken below
 
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Re: Overlooked feats: Enton >>>> Natural Energy (Mangafacts & proof inside!)

in·stant\ˈin(t)-stənt\
noun
: a very short period of time

I didn't shoot myself in the foot. Lightning is instant because it moves so fast :lmao:
I'll give you more definitions if you'd like

I know you don't have an argument but come on. Don't drop to new lows that you've already sunken below
Yes, scientifically, Lightning isn't instant, neither is Speed of Light relative to the distance as Instant also means "happening or coming immediately" and "a precise moment of time". Please, don't choose words just because they suit your foolishness. Come on, man. You didn't know much about the sun, and now are using the term contextually wrong.

Yeah, clearly. Now can you please stop quoting me?
 
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Re: Overlooked feats: Enton >>>> Natural Energy (Mangafacts & proof inside!)

The fact this thread exist proves OP doesn't know what he's talking about. Natural energy is an source of energy. It can be used with anything and everything in the manga. So it compared in the way he's trying to compare it. IE: Natural energy can be added to Enton or an absorbing jutsu to absorb enton.
 
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Re: Overlooked feats: Enton >>>> Natural Energy (Mangafacts & proof inside!)

Yes, scientifically, Lightning isn't instant, neither is Speed of Light relative to the distance as Instant also means "happening or coming immediately" and "a precise moment of time". Please, don't choose words just because they suit your foolishness. Come on, man. You didn't know much about the sun, and now are using the term contextually wrong.

Yeah, clearly. Now can you please stop quoting me?
So specify that then. Contextually, my defintion and the 3 others don't go against it being instant. I'd like to also see scientifically how it is not scientific as well

I don't know about the sun yet I know it well enough to know that the human body will be stripped of flesh if one was to go near it. You should be the last to lecture anyone about the sun. People faint in the summer due to how 100+ F can drain the liquid/water from their body (dehydration), so imagine what the surface of the sun would do yet you claim Amateratsu is not hyperbole :sdo:

Once again, what does bringing up lightning have to do with the thread? This thread is about Amateratsu wank not what's hotter between lightning and the surface of the sun. You went on a tangent about nothing. Glad to see it's a rouse because you lack a proper rebuttal
 
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Re: Overlooked feats: Enton >>>> Natural Energy (Mangafacts & proof inside!)

Lol is Someone actually trying to wank Amaterasu, the lamest jutsu in the NV? You keep using the word "incinerate" but Amaterasu has failed to kill anyone in the manga.

And BTW you got it backwards, the Sand is blocking Amaterasu here.
As as you can see by the sand not turning into glass, Amaterasu/enton isn't that hot at all.
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The plot continues to interfere.....
 

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Re: Overlooked feats: Enton >>>> Natural Energy (Mangafacts & proof inside!)

So specify that then. Contextually, my defintion and the 3 others don't go against it being instant. I'd like to also see scientifically how it is not scientific as well

I don't know about the sun yet I know it well enough to know that the human body will be stripped of flesh if one was to go near it. You should be the last to lecture anyone about the sun. People faint in the summer due to how 100+ F can drain the liquid/water from their body (dehydration), so imagine what the surface of the sun would do yet you claim Amateratsu is not hyperbole :sdo:

Once again, what does bringing up lightning have to do with the thread? This thread is about Amateratsu wank not what's hotter between lightning and the surface of the sun. You went on a tangent about nothing. Glad to see it's a rouse because you lack a proper rebuttal
They do. Context and meanings matter. Wouldn't expect you to understand as you are about as subtle and delicate as a canon shot.

You jackass, that's the temp of the aura. Gave you the links, didn't I? A monkey would have clicked on them to check. The Temp of Sun's surface is the same as I told you about. You don't agree? Wow, that should be everybody's business.

Go back and reread things. It isn't anyone's fault if your wonky head is doing all Naruto fanboys' justice. It's a bad thing to do. Very bad.
 

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Re: Overlooked feats: Enton >>>> Natural Energy (Mangafacts & proof inside!)

They do. Context and meanings matter. Wouldn't expect you to understand as you are about as subtle and delicate as a canon shot.

You jackass, that's the temp of the aura. Gave you the links, didn't I? A monkey would have clicked on them to check. The Temp of Sun's surface is the same as I told you about. You don't agree? Wow, that should be everybody's business.

Go back and reread things. It isn't anyone's fault if your wonky head is doing all Naruto fanboys' justice. It's a bad thing to do. Very bad.
Ok. So now you're going to argue with the English language. I asked for scientific links for the term "instant" because I have found none on Google

I don't care about the aura of lighting I care about how you possible could think Amateratsu is not hyperbole. If you're regarding the aura in regards to Amateratsu then you're obviously in denial. The heat from Amateratsu would burn everyone in the room that it is used in (ie the cave) or whatever it was used on near instantaneously

First off, I'm not a Naruto fanboy, secondly nothing you say is ever relevant or makes sense. You're derailing from the thread because you lack validity for your argument. I asked you to provide a simple scan for your argument and you start talking about lighting when the current argument is about NE and Amateratsu, for what?
 
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Re: Overlooked feats: Enton >>>> Natural Energy (Mangafacts & proof inside!)

Pretty sure it was the heat that made kabuto's jutsu revert. Plus it defend against the sand,the sand blocked it.

Enton/amaterasu has high killing power if It hits,and its very effective against large opponents like gyuki or one of the bijuus with flesh. Its also near instant at close range. But its drawbacks also reduce its effectiveness. With only ms, Bleeding,and the chakra buildup can give it away and hurts the user greatly. It seems to be able to be blocked with pure chakra too.

However its a very deadly jutsu,no doubt. Though some OP facts are off. Its a well made thread.
 

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Re: Overlooked feats: Enton >>>> Natural Energy (Mangafacts & proof inside!)

And people should please stop saying that ama's temperature hype is wrong cuz it didn't vapourize everything around. Having the same temperature dosent mean the same as having the same amount of heat radiated per second. The sun is bigger than the earth an enton flame the size of a human can't radiate the same amount of heat as the srface of the sun
 

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Re: Overlooked feats: Enton >>>> Natural Energy (Mangafacts & proof inside!)

genii96;19239399[B said:
Pretty sure it was the heat that made kabuto's jutsu revert[/B]. Plus it defend against the sand,the sand blocked it.

Enton/amaterasu has high killing power if It hits,and its very effective against large opponents like gyuki or one of the bijuus with flesh. Its also near instant at close range. But its drawbacks also reduce its effectiveness. With only ms, Bleeding,and the chakra buildup can give it away and hurts the user greatly. It seems to be able to be blocked with pure chakra too.

However its a very deadly jutsu,no doubt. Though some OP facts are off. Its a well made thread.
Indeed it was. The heat was enough to destroy NE hence the thread title.:sdo: Thanks though, I agree with strength/weakness analysis of Amaterasu. Enton has alot more potential though imo, I can see why Kishi allowed sAsuke to mix it with his other jutsus.
 

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Re: Overlooked feats: Enton >>>> Natural Energy (Mangafacts & proof inside!)

The fact this thread exist proves OP doesn't know what he's talking about. Natural energy is an source of energy. It can be used with anything and everything in the manga. So it compared in the way he's trying to compare it. IE: Natural energy can be added to Enton or an absorbing jutsu to absorb enton.
That makes zero sense, because NE is added to two more energies to create a new chakra, that in turn will be used to create a technique. NE is never added to be technique. Going by your logic, why does one chakra transformed as water ends up destroying another chakra turned into fire? They are both chakras, right?
 

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Re: Overlooked feats: Enton >>>> Natural Energy (Mangafacts & proof inside!)

It's only used as a diversion against Naruto now.

Amaterasu is useless agaisnt
Kaguya
Juubi
Juubi Jin Obito
Madara
Naruto
That's because it's too OP. Kishi doesn't allow it to touch important poeple in the manga.
 

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Re: Overlooked feats: Enton >>>> Natural Energy (Mangafacts & proof inside!)

Yeah and Naruto couter it with Kybbe chakra version 1. Keep dreaming.
 

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Re: Overlooked feats: Enton >>>> Natural Energy (Mangafacts & proof inside!)

Lol is Someone actually trying to wank Amaterasu, the lamest jutsu in the NV? You keep using the word "incinerate" but Amaterasu has failed to kill anyone in the manga.

And BTW you got it backwards, the Sand is blocking Amaterasu here.
As as you can see by the sand not turning into glass, Amaterasu/enton isn't that hot at all.
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By the way: naruto.wikia.com/Amaterasu
 
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Re: Overlooked feats: Enton >>>> Natural Energy (Mangafacts & proof inside!)

@ComplexCity @shelke

What I was thinking

Lightning vs Speed of light
Both are extremely fast relative to humans however clearly the latter is considerably faster than the former.
Despite this they both can be considered "instant" because they both occur in a brief period of time and something being instantaneous doesn't correspond to a certain/specific measure of time. Essentially its up to the perceivers digression.

The problem is most people perceive the term instant as taking 0 time. If this is the case neither is "instant". This is because it take time to travel a distance
 
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