Question regarding rinnegan and EMS

[V h o]

Again. How does limbo do so?

Same way it knocked bijuu away

 

[UchihasRightfulHeir]

Same way it knocked bijuu away

We now can guess that he probably used Susanoo with limbo.

 

[Ansatsuken]

For Nagato his limit is chakra. If he have chakra reserve like Madara or Sasuke, I think he can defeat PS. He can create multiple CT that larger than single mountain and drop it on PS. Or perform ST that can pull PS upward and slam it downward.

 

[Holy God]

Same way it knocked bijuu away

That was either because of Madara's very heightened strength (sage mode) or his Susano'o. Limbo shadows are an exact replica of the user, so someone like Nagato wouldn't be able to use physical force.

 

[VongolaX]

It depends on how you look at it. Manga-wise, a Rinnegan user is going to defeat a Perfect Susano'o user with a large amount of difficulty. Fictionally though, most people imagine the Susano'o slashing left and right, in which case obviously someone like Nagato would not be able to stop. His best defense is Almighty Push and assuming it could block a slash, it's only going to last for some seconds.

Shrina tensei (full power) has shown the most force in the series, how can PS slash ever compete on that level?
Ps slash flailing left and right destroyed five mountain top, while ST at full force ended a village.
On top of that, when the EMS users Susanoo finally gets crushed, Asura lasers can attack from any distance.

 

[ANiMUS]

PS slash seems to have more power than the strongest rinnegan techniques, but then again Nagato isn't an original user.

 

[V h o]

That was either because of Madara's very heightened strength (sage mode) or his Susano'o. Limbo shadows are an exact replica of the user, so someone like Nagato wouldn't be able to use physical force.

Nagato doesn't even have limbo, regardless of that it would be weaker since he is not the true owner of the rinnegan.

We now can guess that he probably used Susanoo with limbo.

Baseless assumption. Limbo susanoo has even been hinted or shown in manga.

 

[Holy God]

Shrina tensei (full power) has shown the most force in the series, how can PS slash ever compete on that level?
Ps slash flailing left and right destroyed five mountain top, while ST at full force ended a village.
On top of that, when the EMS users Susanoo finally gets crushed, Asura lasers can attack from any distance.

Perfect Susano'o is far above five mountains. The reason however is because the attacks are linear so it doesn't have such an explosive effect until final impact.

The situation comes down to two things: Almighty Push is used to deflect the slashes, meaning defeat for the Rinnegan user as he can't keep up, or it is used to smother and destroy Perfect Susano'o. Accounting for the fact the latter occurs, he'd have to do it from above Susano'o, or otherwise with how large the construct is, it would only push it away with minimal damage. It would then come down to the Rinnegan user, who then has no access to the gravity path, and the Mangekyou Sharingan user, who may or may not be able to re-erect Susano'o again. That is the factor that decides the win.

 

[SenseiSama]

Where it said Susanoo is Indra's Gedo Mazo in Manga or DB. Just because you saw Sasuke put TB chakra inside his PS similar to Gedo Mazo, then you came out with out of nowhere fact.

Uhmmm let's see : 1. he extracted bijuu chakra without chakra chains 2. he teleported to Kaguya's dimension without the Gedo's power 3. He countered IT without the Shinju

Do you need more proof ?

 

[Holy God]

Nagato doesn't even have limbo, regardless of that it would be weaker since he is not the true owner of the rinnegan.



Baseless assumption. Limbo susanoo has even been hinted or shown in manga.

Nagato having Limbo was an assumption made by a previous post so I was going with it. It's a hypothetical case that clearly shows an average person, such as Nagato, isn't going to have the force to destroy Susano'o with the technique.

 

[UchihasRightfulHeir]

Nagato doesn't even have limbo, regardless of that it would be weaker since he is not the true owner of the rinnegan.



Baseless assumption. Limbo susanoo has even been hinted or shown in manga.

Still, Limbo is simply a clone. So it has whatever tech the original user(madara) has. Madara is both an EMS user and a Rinnegan user. So to knock the bijuu down, he could have used either which makes your limbo claim very vague. This is basically a rinnegan vs EMS thread. So make a better argument.

 

[Ambivalence]

What's to wonder about? Nagato gets one-shotted by PS, and there really isn't anything he can do to prevent that. Even if we assume an ST can nullify the shockwave, he'll get pasted from the next ones because of the 5-second time lag.

Nagato also has no way of busting PS. A focused CST will only do moderate damage, seeing as how PS tanked a full Kurama TBB and it took a full Shinsuusenju barrage to destroy it, CT core gets destroyed (and PS >>> 8-tailed Kurama that was needed to break through anyway), anything else is a non-factor. Nagato is boned once he's faced with PS.

 

[UchihasRightfulHeir]

PS slash seems to have more power than the strongest rinnegan techniques, but then again Nagato isn't an original user.

Gedo Summon can take on PS.

 

[Ansatsuken]

Uhmmm let's see : 1. he extracted bijuu chakra without chakra chains 2. he teleported to Kaguya's dimension without the Gedo 3. He countered IT without the Shinju Do you need anymore feats ?

Whats that mean to be?

-He just using his PS similar to GM in mechanisme thats is to stored chakra, thats all. But GM gave you more than that.

-What GM is to do with teleportation because to teleport you only need Rinn Sharingan or 6 Tomoes Rinnegan plus chakra reserve.

-He can countered IT is thanks to his Rinnegan and not GM.

Give me more of your own manga logic and I will countet it.

 

[Chaosmark101]

RSM isn't even equal to the rinnegan.

What makes you say that? Kishi wouldn't have given them both those power ups at the same time if he didn't believe that.

Ot: Rinnegan is by far the coolest dojutsu. But EMS Shits due to PS

Seriously. What can the Rinnegan even hope to accomplish against this? Sharingan is OP.

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[UchihasRightfulHeir]

What makes you say that? Kishi wouldn't have given them both those power ups at the same time if he didn't believe that.

Ot: Rinnegan is by far the coolest dojutsu. But EMS Shits due to PS

Seriously. What can the Rinnegan even hope to accomplish against this? Sharingan is OP.

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Cuz RSM is just that mode Naruto was in when he kicked the goudama. The mode he is in where he has TSB is RM + Bijuu chakra. That is what is equal to the rinnegan(still debateable though). I've been saying this continuously throughout this thread. Gedo can take PS.

 

[Chaosmark101]

Cuz RSM is just that mode Naruto was in when he kicked the goudama. The mode he is in where he has TSB is RM + Bijuu chakra. That is what is equal to the rinnegan(still debateable though). I've been saying this continuously throughout this thread. Gedo can take PS.

@Bold I know that. @Underline I think PS cleaves imo

 

[SatanicGod]

Shrina tensei leveled a whole village.

If Nagato diverts all that power towards perfect Susanoo, the Susanoo would get crushed.
On top of that Ashura path can create openings and animal increases the body count.

And then he's on cool down for 5 minutes, and there is no guarantee the PS would be leveled... PS has tanked much worse... And do you honestly believe that a village>> 5 mountains?

 

[SenseiSama]

Whats that mean to be?

-He just using his PS similar to GM in mechanisme thats is to stored chakra, thats all. But GM gave you more than that.

-What GM is to do with teleportation because to teleport you only need Rinn Sharingan or 6 Tomoes Rinnegan plus chakra reserve.

-He can countered IT is thanks to his Rinnegan and not GM.

Give me more of your own manga logic and I will countet it.

So much denial in one post. All of Kaguya's feats relied on the Juubi's power , and the Juubi = Gedo Mazo. In addition, all of Kaguya's feats can't be used without the Gedo Mazo's power yet Sasuke used them without the statue

Furthermore, the purpose of the Gedo is to amplify the Rinnegan's power in order to use Outer Path jutsu, guess what ? Sasuke used Susanoo used for the exact same purpose.

Before you mention Madara I'll have you know that Hagoromo Rinnegan =/= Indra's Rinnegan. Madara's Rinnegan was meant to rely on Ashura's body while Sasuke's Rinnegan was meant to rely on Indra's chakra

Hago's Rinnegan relied on the degraded form of the Juubi's power in order to be used at full strength. In comparison, EMS is a degraded form of the Juubi's power, and as a result Indra relies on his Mangekyo to use his Rinnegan's full power

Kaguya's dimension travel as well as her IT are both Outer Path jutsu because they rely on the Shinju's power (Shinju = Gedo Mazo), Sasuke managed to use them without the Gedo because Indra's Rinnegan was designed to rely on Susanoo instead of the Juubi's shell.

 

[Ansatsuken]

So much denial in one post. All of Kaguya's feats relied on the Juubi's power , and the Juubi = Gedo Mazo. In addition, all of Kaguya's feats can't be used without the Gedo Mazo's power yet Sasuke used them without the statue

Furthermore, the purpose of the Gedo is to amplify the Rinnegan's power in order to use Outer Path jutsu, guess what ? Sasuke used Susanoo used for the exact same purpose.

Before you mention Madara I'll have you know that Hagoromo Rinnegan =/= Indra's Rinnegan. Madara's Rinnegan was meant to rely on Ashura's body while Sasuke's Rinnegan was meant to rely on Indra's chakra

Hago's Rinnegan relied on the degraded form of the Juubi's power in order to be used at full strength. In comparison, EMS is a degraded form of the Juubi's power, and as a result Indra relies on his Mangekyo to use his Rinnegan's full power

Kaguya's dimension travel as well as her IT are both Outer Path jutsu because they rely on the Shinju's power (Shinju = Gedo Mazo), Sasuke managed to use them without the Gedo because Indra's Rinnegan was designed to rely on Susanoo instead of the Juubi's shell.

Where you get all your fact? Kind to share with me?

Who was inn denial now? its you. Make matters worse, you created your own facts that not supported by Manga or DB

Indra has Rinnegan, where? Post the scan for me to see

You is the worst member here as anything you post on your threads or in any threads by any members is just made up facts without manga support or concrete proof.

Its just your comprehension problem I saw

You know that Kaguya's Rinn Sharingan is product of Chakra fruit and not Shinju. Its exist on Kaguya's forehead before she merge with Shinju to formed Juubi. GM is the body of Shinju+Kaguya wheres TB is their chakra.

Rinn Sharingan is Kekkei Mora and all abilities she get from chakra fruit is including Teleportation power. Read the manga or DB dude.

In Hagoromo's flashback, he shows Naruto how Kaguya looks like. Hagoromo saw Kaguya with Rinn Sharingan and IT power before Kaguya merged with Shinju. He never knew Kaguya was part of Juubi. But he knew how Kaguya looks.

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Above flashback picture is happen before Kaguya merged with Shinju to formed Juubi. Hagoromo already saw Kaguya's eyes power that is Rinn Sharingan and Byakugan. Thats mean Kaguya has Rinn Sharingan before she merged with Shinju. Chakra fruit she ate gave her that eye and not from Shinju merger.

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Above flashback picture is after Kaguya merged with Shinju. That eye is Kaguya's Rinn Sharingan.

Thats kill your statement that said this

Kaguya's dimension travel as well as her IT are both Outer Path jutsu because they rely on the Shinju's power (Shinju = Gedo Mazo), Sasuke managed to use them without the Gedo because Indra's Rinnegan was designed to rely on Susanoo instead of the Juubi's shell

All your replies to me is not supported by manga or DB, its just your assumption most of it. Its no use to talked with the person that is dilusional and think what he posted is true.

Im using all manga/DB facts while you created your own facts.

At bold, where you get that from? Its so wrong. Manga never implied that. Tell that to other forums and see their response to you. Its not make any senses. You tried to use common sense but its failed.

Post scan on Indra's Rinnegan or his rinnegan power and other details on Hagoromo's Rinnegan.

Kaguya's Dimension travel = outer path? Are you serious?SMH

I dont know how to reply anymore because you're a joke.