Do you believe humans were originally black?

[Pumpkin Ninja]

My mother isn't the only who's white. You can find millions of Arabs who are white, despite inhabiting a region of heated desert.



The idea of adaptation is transforming to a new environment. The problem with the idea of humans originating from Africa is, as pointed out, that whites or blacks adapting to heated regions will not transform their skin colour. A black person from Africa going to Europe will not change his/her skin colour, same with white person from Europe going to Africa will not change his/her skin colour, despite adapting to a new temperature. That is the same concept of human traces recording back to Africa. Humans would have to somehow change skin colour as soon as they migrate to Europe or anywhere to the North, which is impossible by nature.



I apologize for the link. Didn't really read it until now, but yeah it was racist. :lol

Apology accepted, I'm not black but seeing people support that stuff bothers me.

See, it's not an instant change. It happens with generations, over time, a loooooonnnggg time. And it makes sense, seeing how white people burn in the sun easier while others don't. There's a reason for that.

Why would I link it when it's already been something included in your 6th grade science book? Why would I link it when it is some basic knowledge? If you want proof then a quick google search can help you. "First humans fossil were found but it doesnt mean it started"... You do realize a lot of things have been found in Africa? You do realize that's why it's called the "mother land"? YOU ALSO DO NEED TO REALIZE that some of the OLDEST human fossils have been found Africa which says a lot.

God you are dense and I'm done with you after this. If you really need to taught on dominant and recessive genes... then...lordy lord

What school system do you have? Doesn't that stuff only appear in Grade 11 Bio and up?

That can be true, but really depends on how you define skin colour. Racial skin colour varies even if they fall under the skin colour. Africans, Arabs, Indians can all be black but differ in colour.

Race is what you should be saying in order for it to make sense, but yeah, you have a point there.

 

[Arima]

Why would I link it when it's already been something included in your 6th grade science book? Why would I link it when it is some basic knowledge? If you want proof then a quick google search can help you. "First humans fossil were found but it doesnt mean it started"... You do realize a lot of things have been found in Africa? You do realize that's why it's called the "mother land"? YOU ALSO DO NEED TO REALIZE that some of the OLDEST human fossils have been found Africa which says a lot.

God you are dense and I'm done with you after this. If you really need to taught on dominant and recessive genes... then...lordy lord

You tried to google it, yet couldn't find reliable source and now trying to assert it's a general knowledge. General knowledge is that the oldest human fossils were found in Africa, NOT that humans were originally black.

"YOU ALSO DO NEED TO REALIZE that some of the OLDEST human fossils have been found Africa which says a lot." - it does not say a lot, it just says that some of the OLDEST human fossils have been found Africa, NOTHING MORE, NOTHING LESS.
If this is the only evidence you're using to conjecture that all humans were black, then you're totally dumb.

 

[CornyRainbow]

Apology accepted, I'm not black but seeing people support that stuff bothers me.

See, it's not an instant change. It happens with generations, over time, a loooooonnnggg time. And it makes sense, seeing how white people burn in the sun easier while others don't. There's a reason for that.


What school system do you have? Doesn't that stuff only appear in Grade 11 Bio and up?


Race is what you should be saying in order for it to make sense, but yeah, you have a point there.

My state has evolution taught as early as 4th grade.

Idiot. You tried to google it, yet couldn't find reliable source and now trying to assert it's a general knowledge. General knowledge is that the oldest human fossils were found in Africa, NOT that humans were originally black.

"YOU ALSO DO NEED TO REALIZE that some of the OLDEST human fossils have been found Africa which says a lot." - it does not say a lot, it just says that some of the OLDEST human fossils have been found Africa, NOTHING MORE, NOTHING LESS.
If this is the only evidence you're using to conjecture that all humans were black, then you're totally an dumb.

I never tried to google anything... It's basic knowledge on how evolution works. White skin did not create black skin because white skin would be the dominant gene but it is in FACT the recessive gene. You know how blue eyes are a mutation? And how they are recessive? There you go. There is NO WAY that white skin was before dark skin.... It makes no logical sense based on our understanding on how DNA works. It's not possible for white skin to be recessive if it did in fact create black skin.

And when I mean oldest? I mean a crap ton older than the bones people found in Europe... Like

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There's a lot more where that came from. Still want to talk? If I'm not mistaken...that...was...found...in...AFRIIIICAAAAA
Science, logic and discoveries like this sure do go a long way for my argument. What about yours?

 

[Bronze]

Why would I link it when it's already been something included in your 6th grade science book? Why would I link it when it is some basic knowledge? If you want proof then a quick google search can help you. "First humans fossil were found but it doesnt mean it started"... You do realize a lot of things have been found in Africa? You do realize that's why it's called the "mother land"? YOU ALSO DO NEED TO REALIZE that some of the OLDEST human fossils have been found Africa which says a lot.

God you are dense and I'm done with you after this. If you really need to taught on dominant and recessive genes... then...lordy lord




You have a poor understanding on how evolution happens. Obviously a flying dinosaur isn't going to just get smaller or grow feathers as soon as their leave their natural habitat but OVER TIME AND VERY LONG TIME..... these dinosaurs adapt to their new enviroment. No one just changes as soon as they leave. Evolution is a very very long process and humans are still going through evolution till this day. Evolution doesn't happen in a few years or centuries...it takes thousands of years...bro

So yes, if a white family Russia moved to Africa and stayed there then the generations will adapt to Africa's enviroment... Vice Versa.....That's what evolution is. Adapting to new enviroments to further continue a species.

Okay, Einstein.

 

[Υαmí]

Oldest homosapian ever...well, jaw piece.....was 2.8 million years old...which was found in an Ethiopian river bed.....or it was Lucy, who was.....3 million years old.

 

[Umari Senju]

That can be true, but really depends on how you define skin colour. Racial skin colour varies even if they fall under the skin colour. Africans, Arabs, Indians can all be black but differ in colour.

This is true. And I also considered that in account with my earlier post. As there is really not a single pigmentation for any ethnicity.

 

[khaoz]

[That's what evolution is. Adapting to new enviroments to further continue a species.[/QUOTE]

like the giraffe

 

[CornyRainbow]

Oldest homosapian ever...well, jaw piece.....was 2.8 million years old...which was found in an Ethiopian river bed.....or it was Lucy, who was.....3 million years old.

Hilarious thing about it.... Both were found in Africa
And what's even funnier is that.... since Ethopia is right around where Africa and Europe and Middle East connect.. it makes sense that migration could have happened... But denial at best with some people

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[Υαmí]

Australopithecus afarensis, is the oldest species of human like creatures. Walked in bipedal stance, were small(about 4 ft) and hairy, and semi intelligent. Now....lets see...skin color....was probably dark in color, as we did not have the suitable protection against the Suns uav light at that time(other than skin color and shade).

 

[Jazzy Stardust]

Yeah I believe so, even in a lot of ancient drawings and stautues/sculptures they usually have black features. In all cultures I've found.

It's called evolution from migration out of Africa that the changes start to o happen. Not that it really matters at all if we were or not. A lot of people get offended by it for some reason which is silly and try to deny facts. But I have tons of info to back my case.

 

[CornyRainbow]

Yeah I believe so, even in a lot of ancient drawings and stautues/sculptures they usually have black features. In all cultures I've found.

It's called evolution from migration out of Africa that the changes start to o happen. Not that it really matters at all if we were or not. A lot of people get offended by it for some reason which is silly and try to deny facts. But I have tons of info to back my case.

I agree it doesn't really matter until people want to start denying facts gathered long before their great-grandparents could even learn to sh-t in the potty

 

[Filosoofis]

That's so wrong it hurts my head. You do realize that's not how it worked right? Humans migrated out of Africa... NOT into Africa....so it can't be the other way around. There's a reason that black skin is dominant and white skin is recessive like blue eyes and brown eyes.

What advantage would a pearly white have in Africa?

That site is racist as hell

It is not racist but science? You wanted science you got science.

 

[Karna]

No they were all brown :sdo:

 

[Arima]

My state has evolution taught as early as 4th grade.


I never tried to google anything... It's basic knowledge on how evolution works. White skin did not create black skin because white skin would be the dominant gene but it is in FACT the recessive gene. You know how blue eyes are a mutation? And how they are recessive? There you go. There is NO WAY that white skin was before dark skin.... It makes no logical sense based on our understanding on how DNA works. It's not possible for white skin to be recessive if it did in fact create black skin.

And when I mean oldest? I mean a crap ton older than the bones people found in Europe... Like

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There's a lot more where that came from. Still want to talk? If I'm not mistaken...that...was...found...in...AFRIIIICAAAAA
Science, logic and discoveries like this sure do go a long way for my argument. What about yours?

I never said white skin created black skin. I said both existed since the beginning.

Oldest bone found in Africa does not imply, first humans lived in Africa, which in turn does not imply first humans were black. It can never be absolutely proven. Only theories.

I wonder why would you ask "if people believe humans were originally black" if you are so assertive and confident.

 

[scrmz]

No, i don't believe in the religion of Darwin.

 

[Transcendence]

I could care less about what religious delusional people believe. Fossil dating proves that the first humans (several sub species before hand) were black, and is further proven given carbon dating and the state of the earth from 1000's of years before. The amount of oxygen in the atmosphere is much lesser compared to when our ancestors roamed the earth. It was hotter back then, and we're only getting closer to that because of global warming, just in a negative way.

 

[Transcendence]

My mother isn't the only who's white. You can find millions of Arabs who are white, despite inhabiting a region of heated desert.



The idea of adaptation is transforming to a new environment. The problem with the idea of humans originating from Africa is, as pointed out, that whites or blacks adapting to heated regions will not transform their skin colour. A black person from Africa going to Europe will not change his/her skin colour, same with white person from Europe going to Africa will not change his/her skin colour, despite adapting to a new temperature. That is the same concept of human traces recording back to Africa. Humans would have to somehow change skin colour as soon as they migrate to Europe or anywhere to the North, which is impossible by nature.



I apologize for the link. Didn't really read it until now, but yeah it was racist. :lol

The idea of adaptation is not transforming to a new environment. It's adapting to the whatever the strongest factor of the environment is. With said adaptation, there is variation in the gene pool that creates a mutation and becomes part of the genes of said person or thing that adapted. That gene is then passed on to later generations of the species to continue to thrive in the environment so long as the dominating factor of that environment stats the same. I'm not going to delve into anything religious since this is purely a logical point of view. The first sub species of humans that we discovered from fossil dating was in Africa. And based on the chronological order of the evolutionary tree (dating back to the common ancestor of both Apes and Humans), it was indeed from Africa. Humans are warm blooded animals. It's increasingly obvious that the birthplace of our species was in Africa given that it is very warm and we could thrive in that environment. Your arguments are null and void simply because you're talking about people who are many, many generations past the beginning of our species and the various mutations that have occurred took course. Black people are darker because the higher concentration of EU Melanin is beneficial to thriving in a hotter environment where they're exposed to the Suns UV rays. That's also why very white people with not much extra coloured pigmentation usually get red when they're exposed to the Sun too long. Not enough Melanin to combat the UV rays, and it's reflected in the reddening of their skin. It's completely plausible (and extremely likely) that we were all once black before simply because when people migrated, they migrated to different places, a long time ago. They didn't magically change skin colour. They adapted and mutations took their course.

 

[Multiply]

Oldest homosapian ever...well, jaw piece.....was 2.8 million years old...which was found in an Ethiopian river bed.....or it was Lucy, who was.....3 million years old.

They found a cave with a bunch of skulls with one about 4 million years old(I'm pretty sure).

 

[P3ĮÑ]

It's not that, it's that they had to adapt to their regions. It matters where you are. In hotter regions people tended to be darker. While in colder, people were lighter. It has to do with adapting to your environment, not white people being more evolved. It also makes sense how Asians have narrower eyes for reasons like blocking things like debris or too much light.

This. It's also the reason why most hotter and sunny regions have people with stronger and prominent brow ridges (most likely to cover the eyes from the heavy suns direct light) Neanderthals also had very prominent brow ridges, darker skin and were tropical species rather than cold adaptive. Compared to cro magnons.

 

[SoundBar]

Darker skinned and originated from Africa? Yes, as far as we know. Black is a modern term, so I wouldn't necessarily say black, but the first modern humans were of darker pigmentation.