Hidan (Zexion) V.S Yamato (Nattana)

[TRE MERCER]

Im going for Nattana because i know personally how hard it is to debate for Yamato fodder arse. Good Luck.​

 

[Zexion~]

Im going for Nattana because i know personally how hard it is to debate for Yamato fodder arse. Good Luck.​

And using Hidan's easy?

 

[TRE MERCER]

And using Hidan's easy?

Nope but it's much better than using Yamato who has poor mokuton abilities and reaction feats that are equivalent to a blind roach. Plus Hidan always has that he kept up with Kakashi in cqc factor.

Edit- Lol what's up with that sig doe.​

 

[Zexion~]

Nope but it's much better than using Yamato who has poor mokuton abilities and reaction feats that are equivalent to a blind roach. Plus Hidan always has that he kept up with Kakashi in cqc factor.

Edit- Lol what's up with that sig doe.​

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Epicness

 

[New Dawn]

And using Hidan's easy?

Hidan fans and Hidan debaters not only have to convince the judges but also have to clear up misconceptions about Hidan such as his speed, healing, etc.

 

[EZQ]

Lol at people complaining about using hidan at debates. I use Zabuza who is hands down the most underrated character.

 

[TRE MERCER]

Lord that sneak dissing boy is so annoying.​

 

[Nattana]

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First things first, I have to comment on something regarding Zexion's second post because I would not like if it passed unnoticed. And what I mean by it is his aggresive posting style towards my arguments I don't want judges to be fooled by some sweet and witty talk that is meant to downplay my posts.

I hope judges won't fall for such tricks and will stay true to the main point of the debate tournament as a whole ​

Addressing Zexion's false statements and arguments.

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What exactly is that going to do? Yamato has no kind of sensing to my knowledge

Wrong. Transmission Wood technique is more than enough to let Yamato control the whole situation and use the new battlefield to the fullest. By using Mokuton, Yamato creates

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that allow Yamato to sense and track their location. They can be eaten, placed on someone's clothes, hair or simply scattered on the ground so the

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and attaches them accidentaly.

and his attacks are completely linear

Where did you get that from? Yamato's attacks are far from being linear. Let me just sum up what Yamato can do simultaneously.

A. He can create Mokuton from beneath the ground.
B. Then follow it up with some crazy-ass Mokuton from his hands/upper body, for example like in

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It has very irregular pattern and can adjust to the user's needs.
C. A blind-side, sneaky

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to catch Hidan off-guard.

This is far more than Hidan can handle, especially with the field disadvantage AND with no sensory abilities whatsoever.

he also can't utilize it like Hashirama can it simply makes a forest he can't use the tree's for Mokuton. This actually gives Hidan a massive advantage here,

Wrong again. It's even more funny, since the proof that Yamato can use his own trees as a basis for another Mokuton techniques was shown in my first post.

But let me remind you [

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]. Not only is this quite a feat, but also it allows Yamato to control the whole situation a lot easier. But I'll refer to this in my further paragraph.

While all of Yamato's long range linear attacks can be blocked or made increasingly slower if he has to count for curling around branches/tree's. Honestly why you'd use this strategy is beyond me. Only good thing that comes of it is substitution...but that only works so many times :lol

Well, I guess it all backfired straight back at you. This strategy is perfect for Yamato.

I Don't really care what his Stamina is

Well, you should. I think you understood that Yamato's stamina and reserves are WAY greater than you thought at first. Obviously, Yamato won't be trying to outlast Hidan because it's pointless, but having enough chakra to freely use your techniques and not having to perserve and hold back is a huge thing here.

Also no Yamato didn't intercept Sasuke I think its you who needs to read the chapter, he starts moving before Sasuke

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and he still couldn't even see it had Raiton on the blade, it being a "Kusunagi Replica" Had nothing to do with it, Sai managed to defend correctly by grabbing Sasuke at a much closer range

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Jesus, what the hell are you even talking about? Yamato intercepted Sasuke's blitz on Sakura. And it doesn't matter if he started moving before Sasuke, because even if he did, he was still behind when Sasuke started rushing at Sakura.

And your argument about Sai is useless. Neither Yamato nor the rest of them had knowledge on Sasuke's Kusanagi Replica and about his ability to channel Raiton through the blade. They didn't know Sasuke could cut through steel with such ease. But the outcome does not matter at all, because Yamato simply went for a weapons clash.

This IS a speed feat. Standing up to Sasuke in terms of speed is quite an achievement. And it was Yamato holding back.

If that's him holding back than....He must always be holding back even more :lol because that is literally the best he's ever done in a fight which is quite pathetic.

This was pretty much the only time we saw Yamato fight and Kishimoto made it clear he was holding back. Not my fault he wasn't important enough to get showcased more.

Can you show me proof that he can spawn random spikes from tree's? Because I don't recall him ever doing that, besides what's a spike going to do? It won't even hold him he easily slips off and continues his assault. Also lets not forget Yamato has no sensing....so how is he going to know where to spawn these spikes? Oh yeah he won't.

Don't make me comment on all this again Everything you need to know has been already covered above.

Don't compare the two forces something thrown with good strength can pierce it maybe not fully but it only needs to strike him barely to obtain blood, not to mention Hidan can merely throw the scythe around it, as he'd be blinded and again refer above to see how fast he got it behind Asuma. If for some reason that fails, Hidan will be gone within the tree's and losing sight of Hidan is almost sure death. Lets not also forget every human near Naruto was safe and Sai even avoided it :lol once again downplaying Yamato's speed and reactions.

I will compare, because Kyuubi's explosion

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. But EVEN IF Hidan's thrown weapons managed to put a little dent in Yamato's defense, it doesn't mean they would obtain his blood. You make it sound as if Yamato would ever come that close to the wood. When you try to defend against something, you try to stay away from it. Not the opposite.

Also one more slight point, in the forest Hidan can easily conceal his ritual seal so Yamato won't be able to inhibit him from doing the ritual.

This is never going to work, especially since Yamato can easily sense Hidan and interrupt his tries to set up the ritual. Especially since Yamato has some perfect counters to it. We know from manga that the ritual seal has to be perfectly drawn and complete, with Hidan standing inside. It will be tough to achieve, especially when Yamato can use

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. Bye bye, ritual.

Offense.

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Okay. I think it's time for Yamato to start pressuring Hidan. Everything has been set up so far to make this fight even easier. Let's sum it up.

A. Altering the battlefield.
B. Using Wood Transmission to gain another advantage over Hidan.
C. Having the surroundings that can work as another set of offense.

Good. Now let me explain how Yamato can deal with Hidan. We all know that Hidan is immortal, but we also know that he is very vulnerable to cutting and piercing damage. And the latter is what Yamato exceels in.

After testing Hidan's abilities, Yamato can stop holding back and go full offense. The ideal scenario is for him to use a variant of large scale

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. The only difference here is that Yamato wouldn't have to focus on specific shapes and constructions and will be able to focus all his power to overwhelm Hidan with the AoE. Of course, the scale doesn't even have to be that big for dealing with just 1 person (making it even less chakra consuming) and since the left side of the panel clearly shows that every single Mokuton branch is sharp-shaped, getting hit by just a single one will result in Hidan's demise.

To be honest I don't see how Hidan could get past all this, especially when surrounding trees aren't going to help him at all. Actually, it's the opposite. If he ever thinks of trying to use a tree as a mechanism to help him dodge, he's going to get impaled by a Mokuton branch growing straight from the tree itself, which I already showed you is something within Yamato's abilities.

I guess you're going to try to put some arguments about how Hidan can dodge all this. But can he? I don't thinks so Evasion is fine, same with agility, but it's good only when you have somewhere to run to.

But what if it's not enough? Yamato can and most likely will resort to creating at least one

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. Now the fight turns into 2vs1 which puts Hidan at even more of a disadvantage. First thing is that Hidan has no way of telling which one is the real one. Another thing is, that the original Yamato can use a diversion strategy any time he wants by simply using Mayfly ([

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]) to merge with the environment and simply proceed with a sneak attack on Hidan. It would be even easier if Yamato's wood clone let Hidan get close on purpose or even let him land a hit, so counterattacking with the original would be even easier.

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Summing up this post.

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There is a lot of stuff I haven't replied to when it comes to Zex's post, but it's only because they were things that directly mentioned false information I countered right at the beginning.

I agree that Hidan may be hard to catch with a straight-up, small, linear Mokuton. But it's not like Yamato can't use more than that. Large AoE deadly Mokuton or blind-side attacks, utilizing Mokuton Clones and surrounding trees as a mean of offense, using Mokuton that can take different shapes and use irregular patterns is more than enough to stop Hidan's pressure and simply pierce his body, which will result in further lose.

And actually, I found you bashing Yamato and his abilities funny Especially that my first post was only a warm-up. No ninja would rush at their opponent without learning something about them first (well, maybe except Hidan :3). Yamato has offensive power to be reckoned with.

Also, your argument about blood - neither blood loss nor Hidan's Ritual is going to do shit. Ritual is never going to happen, while Yamato can easily

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Honestly, I have no idea how you're gonna come up from this. I'm sure you have things up your sleeve, but this looks too miserable for Hidan

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[New Dawn]

Yamato aint S-Rank. Hidan is. #KishiFax

 

[EZQ]

Yamato aint S-Rank. Hidan is. #KishiFax

Power scales do not decide the result of a match up. That's why Shikamaru B-ranked took out hidan -S-ranked

 

[New Dawn]

Power scales do not decide the result of a match up. That's why Shikamaru B-ranked took out hidan -S-ranked

Shika with 3 days prep.

 

[EZQ]

Shika with 3 days prep.

Anyways, don't you get my point? Konohamaru beat pein. Its all about how shinobi use their powers and abilities to beat the enemy, not about how strong they are.

 

[Shitenshin no jutsu]

Pssh, someone try arguing with Ino in a 1v1 and get back at me. :bdpf:

 

[Nattana]

Pssh, someone try arguing with Ino in a 1v1 and get back at me. :bdpf:

Ino > Hinata.

 

[Zexion~]

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Zone out and enjoy the killing.

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First things first, I have to comment on something regarding Zexion's second post because I would not like if it passed unnoticed. And what I mean by it is his aggresive posting style towards my arguments I don't want judges to be fooled by some sweet and witty talk that is meant to downplay my posts.

My aggression is warranted with the amount of effort needed in quoting your annoyingly bordered posts :lol. But in all seriousness no one is going to judge in my favor because I say a few harsh words .-. Merely a style I adopted for debating.

Wrong. Transmission Wood technique is more than enough to let Yamato control the whole situation and use the new battlefield to the fullest. By using Mokuton, Yamato creates

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that allow Yamato to sense and track their location. They can be eaten, placed on someone's clothes, hair or simply scattered on the ground so the

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and attaches them accidentaly.

The forest he created has nothing to do with the seeds first off. Secondly what exactly is that anime picture from? Is it the same seeds? Can it even be attributed to your argument as its anime..... and the size and shape of whatever those objects were could have been changed as the anime likes to do not to mention again I don't even know if those are from Yamato nor do I know when that occurred.Either way I'll counter, size and shape of the seed mean everything as it has to fit into Hidan's boot honestly this was an amateurish argument. However for starters how exactly do you expect Yamato to scatter all the seeds? If he can even make that many. As i've said he's a stationary fighter if he tries and use a clone to scatter them Hidan is obviously going to notice the clone doing nothing but scattering seeds around the forest, he may not know what they do but he's not dumb enough (he's not) to just trample all over them, which even then is still up to chance if they get stuck on his sandal (anime feat) which is different from other peoples (not everyone wheres the same sandals) lets not forget he's going to be utilizing the tree's for cover and what not so placing seeds is going to be an extra challenge up there due to wind (higher up) and the fact that the area of what they will be placed on is highly shortened. But I mean the clone could just as easily get blitzed as it can't even really use Mokuton abilities or anything its just meant for recon

Yamato used the Mokuton for the clone to travel

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as it couldn't use the jutsu itself.

Then of course if Hidan ever wises up to the seeds he could always just take his sandals off. All in all this isn't a reliable source of detecting Hidan.

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Where did you get that from? Yamato's attacks are far from being linear. Let me just sum up what Yamato can do simultaneously.

A. He can create Mokuton from beneath the ground.

Which goes in how many directions? :lol one, which makes it linear. It also has the one feat of catching a clone feint, it catching Hidan who reacted to Shikamaru's shadows which are faster than Yamato's Mokuton as it was able to catch Hidan before he could even bring an arm down to pierce his own heart

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from a nice distance.

B. Then follow it up with some crazy-ass Mokuton from his hands/upper body, for example like in

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It has very irregular pattern and can adjust to the user's needs.

No it doesn't, it goes for the limbs ( In a linear fashion...once again lol), Hidan has 4 limbs that they would aim for him being a smaller target means it would be logical to make it a smaller Mokuton, making it larger would only slow it down. Once again its feats are no match for Hidan's reaction feats. If you're trying to say he'll catch him off guard while he's reacting to the first mokuton attack you're completely wrong Hidan's already shown the ability to react two things on more than one occasion (Asuma + Shikamaru's combined attack which I linked earlier) and

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which is an incredibly difficult reaction actually and since you provided Hidan with a nice cluttered forest he can use the tree's to bounce around all he wants while reacting to attack after attack similar to what he did here

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. Hidan was already able to react to Yamato's slow mokuton but you've made it even easier with the addition of platforms to bounce around on and bursts of speed from a foothold are Hidan's specialty

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giving him tree after tree to do this from...its honestly the worst thing you could have done.

C. A blind-side, sneaky

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to catch Hidan off-guard.

Do you know what linear means everything you've listed travels in ONE DIRECTION. Anyways this "sneaky" mokuton that wasn't even required as Kabuto was going for Yamato the whole time? Its not sneaky nor is it useful, as if Hidan is that close to Yamato and he resorts to that to try and push him off, blood is going to be obtained :lol end of discussion his scythe would continue and strike Yamato if he hadn't already. Hidan's blitz isn't being halted by such a jutsu, which Yamato didn't use all that swiftly

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if you're trying to say thats going to harm Hidan in anyway or use it as an offensive...Its a block of wood that pushes someone back and barely extends from the body its next to useless against Hidan's reaction feats.

This is far more than Hidan can handle, especially with the field disadvantage AND with no sensory abilities whatsoever.

*Advantage, and you don't need sensory abilities, I've already given feats that prove Hidan can deal with these jutsu with normal reactions alone.

Wrong again. It's even more funny, since the proof that Yamato can use his own trees as a basis for another Mokuton techniques was shown in my first post.

But let me remind you [

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]. Not only is this quite a feat, but also it allows Yamato to control the whole situation a lot easier. But I'll refer to this in my further paragraph.

*sigh* He created a bridge? Are you trying to give Hidan a bridge to cross from tree to tree on? Then there is the matter that it takes his attention to utilize the tree's in any way

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so if you think this is going to force Hidan into dodging anything but more than one wood style at a time you're completely wrong :lol. But in the end all he's shown to create is a bridge, none of his restraining techniques are going to magically spawn from the tree's, merely a block of wood which is nothing but enjoyment for Hidan even if it did manage to hit him. Since Yamato as I pointed out has to be focusing on this attack for it to even come off, he has no opportunity to catch Hidan off guard in anyway. Not to mention I doubt he can create that from the top of the tree's where there are nothing but small branches and leaves and that is where Hidan will be spending the majority of his time. Its honestly a slower technique than his normal mokuton's with the only bonus that it may catch Hidan by surprise but Hidan has shown to react to surprises with efficency wheter dodging the shadow shurikan mid-air while still evading the original shadow, or even reacting to a surprise close range blitz

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when he had no idea the opponent was alive yet he was still able to react enough to receive a pointless cut instead of a decapitation. So saying he couldn't just flip over the Mokuton being used from behind/to the side of him or just avoid it in general is absurd. Even if by some miracle it did hit, its not doing anything to Hidan :lol so after being pushed back he'd merely return to what he was doing, hell if it strikes him from behind and pushes him TOWARDS Yamato, his scythe can easily be moved to obtain blood, and if it pushes him AWAY from him, then he takes advantage of being farther from Yamato to disappear from his line of sight, once again Yamato's own jutsu end up backfiring.

A useless strategy in a useless struggle.

Well, I guess it all backfired straight back at you. This strategy is perfect for Yamato.

:lol the Irony.

Well, you should. I think you understood that Yamato's stamina and reserves are WAY greater than you thought at first. Obviously, Yamato won't be trying to outlast Hidan because it's pointless, but having enough chakra to freely use your techniques and not having to perserve and hold back is a huge thing here.

Lets not forget you started out the battle making a pretty large forest, if you mean the one he used

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its arguably larger than the waterfall he created or around the same size, so his stamina isn't going to be as full as you say it will. Hell he looked disturbed using it (sweat on his cheek) and after

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Not that it really matters, he is dying before then.

Jesus, what the hell are you even talking about? Yamato intercepted Sasuke's blitz on Sakura. And it doesn't matter if he started moving before Sasuke, because even if he did, he was still behind when Sasuke started rushing at Sakura.

Are you good? Yes he was behind him, but he didn't react to him at all he reacted to Sakura

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he moved to get in front of her before Sasuke even did anything, and just barely made it. So congrats you've proven Yamato's speed is on par with early part 2 Sakura's :lol, who is leagues slower than both of Hidan's opponents.

And your argument about Sai is useless. Neither Yamato nor the rest of them had knowledge on Sasuke's Kusanagi Replica and about his ability to channel Raiton through the blade. They didn't know Sasuke could cut through steel with such ease. But the outcome does not matter at all, because Yamato simply went for a weapons clash.

Its not an argument its a point, Sai managed to do something more difficult (grabbing a striking opponent, compared to blocking one) in a much shorter time interval. Doesn't really matter the outcome of Yamato's defense, just matters that sai reacted better in a more difficult situation.

This IS a speed feat. Standing up to Sasuke in terms of speed is quite an achievement. And it was Yamato holding back.

Standing up to Sasuke? Nah, he can react to Sakura (early part 2) again....congrats.

This was pretty much the only time we saw Yamato fight and Kishimoto made it clear he was holding back. Not my fault he wasn't important enough to get showcased more.

If you think he wasn't important why you'd choose him here in a debate based on a FIGHT is beyond me.

I will compare, because Kyuubi's explosion

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. But EVEN IF Hidan's thrown weapons managed to put a little dent in Yamato's defense, it doesn't mean they would obtain his blood. You make it sound as if Yamato would ever come that close to the wood. When you try to defend against something, you try to stay away from it. Not the opposite.

With that logic, Hidan's weapon pierced right through a human body "neg diff" yet Sai and everyone else survived the explosion just fine soooooo.... Keep in mind this is the same "Human body" who took Kakuzu's fuutons

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which is leagues ahead of the shock-wave Naruto caused... not that all this matters of course but yeah, don't compare forces. Besides i'm pretty sure the dome was used to block the debris coming his way, not the explosion/shockwave itself.

He's not reacting to Hidan's blitz with that though, i'll explain why later.

Okay. I think it's time for Yamato to start pressuring Hidan. Everything has been set up so far to make this fight even easier. Let's sum it up.

A. Altering the battlefield.

Thanks for that

B. Using Wood Transmission to gain another advantage over Hidan.

Ridiculous argument.

C. Having the surroundings that can work as another set of offense.

Its not "another" set of offense as if he wants to use them for something as useless as a single block of Mokuton than he has to focus on doing so. So he can't use it to any use really at all.

Good. Now let me explain how Yamato can deal with Hidan. We all know that Hidan is immortal, but we also know that he is very vulnerable to cutting and piercing damage. And the latter is what Yamato exceels in.

Wth...when has Yamato pierced anything......ever.He's shown the ability to once, whats piercing even going to do? Hidan can slip off it easily, however he's never going to be caught.

After testing Hidan's abilities, Yamato can stop holding back and go full offense. The ideal scenario is for him to use a variant of large scale

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. The only difference here is that Yamato wouldn't have to focus on specific shapes and constructions and will be able to focus all his power to overwhelm Hidan with the AoE. Of course, the scale doesn't even have to be that big for dealing with just 1 person (making it even less chakra consuming) and since the left side of the panel clearly shows that every single Mokuton branch is sharp-shaped, getting hit by just a single one will result in Hidan's demise.

Bruh, i've seen some weird arguments for Yamato but this one is just plain wrong. First off that jutsu is a specific jutsu that builds houses so I don't know what you're saying about focus on specific shapes and constructions, the jutsu literally translates to "Serial Pillar Houses" you're not getting one without the other, and since you spent so much time creating a forest, sprouting Houses immediately after seems not optional? As the tree's would be in the way .-. Those branches aren't even that sharp anyways not that it matters as they are used in building the houses themselves. Yamato has shown to make one sharp mokuton

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and its already been countered in previous posts but I'll say it again, A slowed down Kakuzu reacted, (so Hidan can easily.) and this was the jutsu that provided a path for Hidan :lol straight to Yamato.

To be honest I don't see how Hidan could get past all this, especially when surrounding trees aren't going to help him at all. Actually, it's the opposite. If he ever thinks of trying to use a tree as a mechanism to help him dodge, he's going to get impaled by a Mokuton branch growing straight from the tree itself, which I already showed you is something within Yamato's abilities.

You showed me a bridge like Mokuton, none of his restraining/piercing abilty's can be used from a tree. So no he's not just going to get impaled randomly, the tree's provide him with cover..

I guess you're going to try to put some arguments about how Hidan can dodge all this. But can he? I don't thinks so Evasion is fine, same with agility, but it's good only when you have somewhere to run to.

Which he does.

But what if it's not enough? Yamato can and most likely will resort to creating at least one

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. Now the fight turns into 2vs1 which puts Hidan at even more of a disadvantage. First thing is that Hidan has no way of telling which one is the real one. Another thing is, that the original Yamato can use a diversion strategy any time he wants by simply using Mayfly ([

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]) to merge with the environment and simply proceed with a sneak attack on Hidan. It would be even easier if Yamato's wood clone let Hidan get close on purpose or even let him land a hit, so counterattacking with the original would be even easier.

Lellllll so much fallacy, first off the Mokuton clone can't actually use Mokuton itself, as I pointed out earlier so no, its merely a waste of space as it too would have no where to go, nor would it even have any way of hurting Hidan. Hidan blitzes it without a second thought if it ever comes near him. Its not mayfly, it merely can merge with the environment as its made from vegetation, however this too doesn't help much. As you can see in the scan you posted, the user once again has to be focused in order for it to reach its full mobility. So if he wants it to merge, he's going to once again have to focus, leaving Hidan who would still be out of view for the time being ample time to blitz him. So no, while the clone provides another set of eyes, it merging is out of the question, and without merging it gets wrecked if it did spot Hidan.

I agree that Hidan may be hard to catch with a straight-up, small, linear Mokuton. But it's not like Yamato can't use more than that. Large AoE deadly Mokuton or blind-side attacks, utilizing Mokuton Clones and surrounding trees as a mean of offense, using Mokuton that can take different shapes and use irregular patterns is more than enough to stop Hidan's pressure and simply pierce his body, which will result in further lose.

He has no "Large AoE deadly Mokuton", the blind side attacks are useless, and each Mokuton has a specific jutsu/shape so no he can't just form it into whatever he wants, this isn't Gaara's sand.

And actually, I found you bashing Yamato and his abilities funny Especially that my first post was only a warm-up. No ninja would rush at their opponent without learning something about them first (well, maybe except Hidan :3). Yamato has offensive power to be reckoned with.

No he doesn't.

Also, your argument about blood - neither blood loss nor Hidan's Ritual is going to do shit. Ritual is never going to happen, while Yamato can easily

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What? You can clearly see blood was still there? What exactly are you trying to argue here? It was merely used to remove the electricity from numbing his nerves, if you think its going to somehow block a wound with the cause not physically present...you're insane. Hidan can pierce and receive blood perfectly fine.

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Lets Counter Attack

Since this is my last post I'll sum up how this is going to go down exactly.

Hidan isn't someone who's going to rely on flashy moves or even much variance to win this fight, he has the stamina to do the same thing over again, and it will work every time. I originally had something in mind but when you changed the area into something that overwhelmingly helps Hidan out, I didn't have to think much.

Yamato isn't going to be moving around much, as evident in every confrontation he's been in his mobility is slim to none. He relies on projectiles of wood to capture his opponent. Which he fires from a stationary position as moving with such heavy mokuton connected to you is near impossible (hence why he has to release himself from it should he want to avoid attacks

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So Hidan merely using Yamato's attacking him as an opportunity to launch his scythe which caught a faster shinobi (Asuma) without him even having a restriction like Yamato would have is actually a VERY high possibility. However another option is to take advantage of the cover of the tree's move to above/near Yamato and come at him with a tremendous blitz of speed. To drive in my point, i'll point this out one more time. The distance between Kakashi and Hidan was quite considerable

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about as far as he'd be should he decide to a tree near Yamato in this forest. As the tree's in his created forest are not that large

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note the tops are already showing. Now Kakashi was ready for Hidan, yet he still was unable to avoid it (even though he knew about Hidans ability and that avoiding is the best option) and had to resort to just barely blocking the blitz

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Hidan was on him in an instant. Now if you think a slower shinobi in Yamato is going to be able to FULLY avoid a blitz of this nature, without any warning, you're insane, don't forget his speed isn't hindered by tree's in the slightest

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. Blood will be obtained and the ritual performed, the forest makes sure of this as he can conceal his sigil. Hell he could keep it in a tree if he wanted to, either way once blood is obtained the link is permanent so Yamato will die. You see, all the flashy Wood styles mean nothing here, as you've not only blocked off Yamato's vision with a forest full of near useless tree's but you've also limited any AoE from anything as there are tree's in the way. The seed argument is hopeless and shaky at best. A forest is the perfect area for CQC specialists, and Hidan is one of the all-time greats in the series. The victor of the clash between slow, linear clunky mokutons and a agile and fast killer who never slows down should be clear.

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[Nattana]

Due to personal reasons I have to withdraw from the tournament.

I know Zexion wouldn't get past me had I stayed, but let's say he wins this one because I have to concede.

 

[Zexion~]

Due to personal reasons I have to withdraw from the tournament.

I know Zexion wouldn't get past me had I stayed, but let's say he wins this one because I have to concede.

Bruh, you're main argument was "lets build houses in the forest" this was a debate not the Oregon Trail :lol.


Anyways nice debate.

 

[Worm]

"lets build houses in the forest"

Minecraft tommorrow. Get ready.