[VS] Kisame vs Sasori

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yes, crazy Gaara was better than the Uchiha fags and their magic eyes.
How did Gaara go from a guy with psychopathic tendencies to someone who's a completely sane individual willing to help others for the sake of their own good. Idols and heroes don't heal psychopachy.

Then again, same shit happened to Sasuke and Bobito so I guess Nurutou author just doesn't give a shit about the fact that you can't cure psychopachy like that and ''lel, they might have been psychopathic at one point, but they were just misunderstood!!''.
Therapy. Plenty of crazed people have become Sane through mental institutes.

Naruto was the light he needed to shine through the darkness he was entrapped in (no homo).

Kisame takes Kakuzu and Sasori on simultaneously and still comes out triumphant. These scrubs are just light work for him.
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Therapy. Plenty of crazed people have become Sane through mental institutes.

Naruto was the light he needed to shine through the darkness he was entrapped in (no homo).
Uh, two problems with that.

1. Psychopachy cannot be fully treated in most cases. It can be managed and person suffering from it could lower the effectiveness of their psychopachy on them through therapy. So Gaara turning into a full on 'hero' who helps other out of his own willingless doesn't make much sense, especially since any kind of psychopathic tendencies are completely gone from him throughout Shippuden. Considering Gaara's shown some high-functioning traits worthy of a psychopath such as:

a) slaughtering people in cold-blood and a completely uncaring mindset to derive some pleasure for himself
b) extremely aggressive behaviour and no apparent empathy
c) talking to a non-existant, already dead person establishes how mentally unstable he was

2. Naruto saving him cannot have such a heavy effect on a mental disorder as psychopachy. It's not direct schema therapy which takes a notably long time to take it's effect on a psychopathic mind and even then it takes other methods to actually control and subdue psychopathic tendencies of the patient.

So yes, I'd just chalk it up to Kishi not knowing that he is basically doing an unrealistic psychopath apologist and complete cure concept that he's done with more than just one character and every character has successfully became more altrustic and gotten rid of their psychopathic tendencies.
 

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Okay. This has gone too far. Even if he is shit, Pissame is a friend. Stop bullying Pissame! It is morally wrong!
 

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Uh, two problems with that.

1. Psychopachy cannot be fully treated in most cases. It can be managed and person suffering from it could lower the effectiveness of their psychopachy on them through therapy. So Gaara turning into a full on 'hero' who helps other out of his own willingless doesn't make much sense, especially since any kind of psychopathic tendencies are completely gone from him throughout Shippuden. Considering Gaara's shown some high-functioning traits worthy of a psychopath such as:

a) slaughtering people in cold-blood and a completely uncaring mindset to derive some pleasure for himself
b) extremely aggressive behaviour and no apparent empathy
c) talking to a non-existant, already dead person establishes how mentally unstable he was

2. Naruto saving him cannot have such a heavy effect on a mental disorder as psychopachy. It's not direct schema therapy which takes a notably long time to take it's effect on a psychopathic mind and even then it takes other methods to actually control and subdue psychopathic tendencies of the patient.

So yes, I'd just chalk it up to Kishi not knowing that he is basically doing an unrealistic psychopath apologist and complete cure concept that he's done with more than just one character and every character has successfully became more altrustic and gotten rid of their psychopathic tendencies.
I don't deny Kishi doesn't know what he's doing in regards to full on facts regarding psychopathy, but you also have to take into hand, Shukaku was a big factor in making him THAT WAY. Shukaku made Gaara bloodthirsty, if you remember back in Pt.1. Once Gaara learned to control Shukaku it simmered down, and Gaara became who he is today. When Shukaku was taken away from him, you could think of Gaara as newly born.
 

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I don't deny Kishi doesn't know what he's doing in regards to full on facts regarding psychopathy, but you also have to take into hand, Shukaku was a big factor in making him THAT WAY. Shukaku made Gaara bloodthirsty, if you remember back in Pt.1. Once Gaara learned to control Shukaku it simmered down, and Gaara became who he is today. When Shukaku was taken away from him, you could think of Gaara as newly born.
True. Shukaku did have his massive effect on Gaara's behaviour so whether Gaara was an actual high-functioning psychopath or whether that was just Shukaku taking his effect on Gaara's behaviour is debatable, I suppose. Gaara's case can be justified to an extent so it could be passed off.

Sasuke's and Bobito's cases completely baffle me and have no justification though. Their case is probably to high-light Naruto being the shining hero who will be acknowledged by everyone point, despite being unrealistic and non-sensical, which is annoying in it's right.
 

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Kakuzu can solo that fish. Don't get me started on Sasori g
They both get bullied, my G. Neither of them would be able to sit at Kisame's lunch table. That would be for real nigas only.

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Can't come at me like that young boy. Levels.

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I agree. Kisame takes out Sasori, Kakuzu, Hidan, Zetsu, and Konan all by himself.
Only real nigas could ever understand this!
 
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They both get bullied, my G. Neither of them would be able to sit at Kisame's lunch table. That would be for real nigas only.



Can't come at me like that young boy. Levels.

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Only real nigas could ever understand this!
I missed Gaara in the list, but they get the point.
 

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Let me know when we're discussing the Naruto manga that Kishi wrote! Until then:

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Kishi wrote moon people.

I think we should rather stick to fanon. And having Bill from Accounting on your team already lowers you by quite a bit of points. Especially since he blocked me on NB and refused to bang his sister in front of me after tying me up, gagging my mouth and leaving me to cry and trash around like a *****.
 
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Kishi wrote moon people.

I think we should rather stick to fanon. And having Bill from Accounting on your team already lowers you by quite a bit of points. Especially since he blocked me on NB and refused to bang his sister in front of me after tying me up, gagging my mouth and leaving me to cry and trash around like a *****.
Lmao, wait, who are you?

Concession accepted, Sasori solo's.
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