[Predictions] One Piece Manga Chapter 785 Discussion and 786 Predictions

[Punk Hazard]

Who said he was just watching people die?

Sarcasm.

 

[24 12 11 to troll]

Sarcasm.

Sarcasm is hard to understand over le interwebz without emoticons

 

[xanonymosx]

Are you daft? There's no way he can help ALL of the people in danger, but he's helping as many as he can. I just love how so many people know what's happening off-panel. Yes, that makes sense. Fujitora, the man who's top priority is helping people and has been shown helping people, is just standing around watching people die. I applaud you all.

you are the daft (what ever that means ) one here ....

yes there is a way to help most if not all of the people , they are in panic because there is a string cage chasing them and harvesting thier lives so take the damn cage down (which he cant do because of plot or as I said a hypocrite) unless you think fuji cant take it down ?

no one is saying he is doing nothing but what he is doing in comparison to what he can do is really pathetic

its just like neymar these days he gets 10 clear chances he misses 9 and scores one would i praise the dude for scoring that goal ? no ofc not

 

[Punk Hazard]

you are the daft (what ever that means ) one here ....

yes there is a way to help most if not all of the people , they are in panic because there is a string cage chasing them and harvesting thier lives so take the damn cage down (which he cant do because of plot or as I said a hypocrite) unless you think fuji cant take it down ?

no one is saying he is doing nothing but what he is doing in comparison to what he can do is really pathetic

its just like neymar these days he gets 10 clear chances he misses 9 and scores one would i praise the dude for scoring that goal ? no ofc not

Who the **** is Neymar

Or maybe it's not as simple as Fujitora knocking down the Bird Cage? Or maybe unleashing enough power to spread across the entire island and knock it down ISN'T a good idea when the island is inhabited by people he's trying to protect and NOT injure with a giant, omnidirectional burst of gravity? Or maybe his powers don't work exactly how you think it does and you should wait for exposition and more panel time before jumping to conclusions? Or wait and see if Fuji has a plan? Maybe you should wait till the game is over before you make a conclusion about Neymar's play during it, and not during the middle.

 

[24 12 11 to troll]

Who the **** is Neymar

World class striker at Barcelona

I guess you don't follow Football...

 

[Simpleatitsbest]

It's been like 2 minutes dude. One panel doesn' = one minute



True, he can probably reverse gravity from a certain radius (outside of the center where the citizens are) once everone is close enough to the center and force the birdcage to expand. I reckon either the birdcage is stopped in its tracks or this happens.

Don't know what you've read but the translations that I have read say "20 minutes later" and the cage is still up... I clearly know that I can't just put a decisive time line for each panel, that's retarded.

 

[24 12 11 to troll]

Don't know what you've read but the translations that I have read say "20 minutes later" and the cage is still up... I clearly know that I can't just put a decisive time line for each panel, that's retarded.

It takes time to travel to the edge of the birdcage from the center, does it not?

 

[Simpleatitsbest]

It takes time to travel to the edge of the birdcage from the center, does it not?

20 minutes? At their speed, which they should be rushing, yeah, 20 minutes sounds more than enough time.... And if you look at the panel where it states 20 minutes has passed, look how shrunk the cage is and we know they're moving from not the centre, because Doffy is the epicentre and that's not where Zorro is, he's already running to the cage and on his way see's Franky at the SAD factory, so yeah, I call bullshit on 20 minutes.

Edit: To the people who thinks Fujitora is doing nothing, don't be ridiculous. First off, the first thing he does is try and break it with a meteor, doesn't do anything, so his next command is to pull every available marine on the island to help with the safety of the people who live there... Think some people could do with going back and reading a few chapters.

 

[Tomato God]

I'm guessing Awakening will be a key in Luffy's power growth, in which his health won't be damaged so much as the Gears do.

Doffy did say that luffy was still not good at using his powers

Ot luffys awakening would be nice if he got a second property his body was made of since these paramenicia are basjcally either effecting your body buggy luffy or b allowing you to manipulate and produce something magllen and doffy so logically it should stay the same for that b class I.e. Magellen turns things around him into poison and can manipulate it or doffy turns things into strings. But for the a class it wouldn't be consistent if buggy could make his bari bari power affect everything or luffy make everything rubber although the world just falling apart because of the bari bari's awakening would be bad ass.

 

[Punk Hazard]

Doffy did say that luffy was still not good at using his powers

Ot luffys awakening would be nice if he got a second property his body was made of since these paramenicia are basjcally either effecting your body buggy luffy or b allowing you to manipulate and produce something magllen and doffy so logically it should stay the same for that b class I.e. Magellen turns things around him into poison and can manipulate it or doffy turns things into strings. But for the a class it wouldn't be consistent if buggy could make his bari bari power affect everything or luffy make everything rubber although the world just falling apart because of the bari bari's awakening would be bad ass.

It's rare and apparently happens to only a certain, few fruits. I doubt Luffy's or Buggy's have Awakenings.

 

[skygoku]

It's rare and apparently happens to only a certain, few fruits. I doubt Luffy's or Buggy's have Awakenings.

There would be no point in introducing it if luffy wasn't going to achieve it. I think thats why doflamingo referenced how bad luffy is at using the true power of his fruit

 

[Tomato God]

It's rare and apparently happens to only a certain, few fruits. I doubt Luffy's or Buggy's have Awakenings.

But buggy being a sectioned man would logically mean that he could cut anything with his awakening since his power is to make things sectioned.

Buggy + Awakening = Guildarts from fairy tail.

 

[ultraChalk]

Can't wait until the new chapter tomorrow.

And I'm wondering if Mingo is defeated or not, since he skipped 20 minutes.

 

[24 12 11 to troll]

It's rare and apparently happens to only a certain, few fruits. I doubt Luffy's or Buggy's have Awakenings.

It's an unfair assumption to write off their fruits like that

It's possible and it would be quite clever of Oda to use awakening as a fifth gear (if there is a fifth), as he's run out of options for body tissue to use in his gears

I also doubt the main character and main anti-hero/anti-villain/joke/whatever the **** he is character won't be awakened by the end of the Manga

But buggy being a sectioned man would logically mean that he could cut anything with his awakening since his power is to make things sectioned.

Buggy + Awakening = Guildarts from fairy tail.

Crash magic is what I thought of when I thought of a Bara Bara no Mi awakening. Or multi shaped sections to avoid blunt attacks

 

[Punk Hazard]

There would be no point in introducing it if luffy wasn't going to achieve it. I think thats why doflamingo referenced how bad luffy is at using the true power of his fruit

So Luffy is gonna be whooping ass with a Santoryuu-Diable Jambe-Rokushiki-Okama Kempo super-combo, right?

It's an unfair assumption to write off their fruits like that

It's possible and it would be quite clever of Oda to use awakening as a fifth gear (if there is a fifth), as he's run out of options for body tissue to use in his gears

I also doubt the main character and main anti-hero/anti-villain/joke/whatever the **** he is character won't be awakened by the end of the Manga


Crash magic is what I thought of when I thought of a Bara Bara no Mi awakening. Or multi shaped sections to avoid blunt attacks

Okay? I didn't say it wasn't possible, I just doubt it. Buggy's fruit being able to split the environment is too much like Law's fruit anyways.

 

[MasqueradeNX]

When is the official 786 release?

OT... Last chapter was epic and i loved it. Mingo is awesome same as Forth Gear

 

[Anduril]

When is the official 786 release?

OT... Last chapter was epic and i loved it. Mingo is awesome same as Forth Gear

Somewhere in the next 6 hours.

 

[Yubel]

This idea of 'awakening' is actually not something new. As already stated in this thread the subordinates of Sadi-chan in Impel Down were awakened Zoans and they have been bugging me for years as Oda never explained what they were exactly, he just made Crocodile say that they are awakened and no character was particularly interested in it, acting like it was normal.

Also DD's DF is different from Luffy's DF as DD can create and control strings, his body however is not made of strings (the clone excluded, but I count that as him simply created strings and shaping them). Luffy is the opposite. He is rubber, but he can't create rubber. So in the hypothetical situation that Luffy would awaken, I don't think it would go the same way as with DD. In the end what DD did after awakening was an upgrade of something he could already do, namely creating strings. So going into the direction of that Luffy is going to transform stuff into rubber is, I reckon, wrong.

Actually I think every awakening will affect the surroundings. Doffy stated awakened DF's affect your surroundings.
Think of all the DF's that were part of normal objects, by that logic if objects can eat DF's so can the environment.

 

[24 12 11 to troll]

So Luffy is gonna be whooping ass with a Santoryuu-Diable Jambe-Rokushiki-Okama Kempo super-combo, right?


Okay? I didn't say it wasn't possible, I just doubt it. Buggy's fruit being able to split the environment is too much like Law's fruit anyways.

Splitting the environment through contact is different to just splitting it up with a swing of your sword, I do see similarities but it's still slightly different. What if Buggy could do it without contact or movement?

Some other fruits are very similar anyway so:
1. Ato Ato no Mi and Hobi Hobi no Mi
2. Hie Hie no Mi and Yuki Yuki no Mi
3. Moku Moku no Mi and Gasu Gasu no Mi
4. Bomu Bomu no Mi and Pamu Pamu no Mi
5. Kilo Kilo no Mi and Machvise's fruit
6. Shari Shari no Mi and Guru Guru no Mi
7. Fuwa Fuwa no Mi, Ope Ope no Mi and Fujitoras fruit
8. Nui Nui no Mi and Ito Ito no Mi
9. Beta Beta no Mi and Doru Doru no Mi
10. Ori Ori no Mi and Supa Supa no Mi
11. Gomu Gomu no Mi (G4) and Bane Bane no Mi
12. Bara Bara no Mi and Ope Ope no Mi
13. Hito Hito no Mi and Hito Hito no Mi Model Daibutsu
14. Marco's fruit and Tori Tori no Mi Model Falcon
15. Both Hebi Hebi no Mi's
16. Mushi Mushi no Mi Model Suzemabachi and Mushi Mushi no Mi Model Kabutomushi

So as you can see, Devil Fruits are often similar albeit at the same time very different

Actually I think every awakening will affect the surroundings. Doffy stated awakened DF's affect your surroundings.
Think of all the DF's that were part of normal objects, by that logic if objects can eat DF's so can the environment.

Only Zoans can be consumed by objects, which makes sense considering objects that had a Logia or Paramecia would have no consciousness and hence no initiative to use the fruits power

That logic is flawed.

Zoan awakenings don't effect their surroundings. Logia's most likely control weather (e.g. Punk Hazard?) whereas Paramecia's probably depend on the type. For example, for Devil fruits like Magellans and Doffy's that produce a substance, they effect the environment (Venom Demon might be an awakened state), Paramecias that already effect the environment like the Ope Ope no Mi will probably just get a massive power boost. But for Paramecias effecting the users body I believe it will be an exclusive ability to that specific fruit.

 

[MasqueradeNX]

Somewhere in the next 6 hours.

So pumped man im going crazy 0.0 Staring at the screen for hours waiting