Sasuke Vs Dai, Gai & Lee...(All 3 Using 8 Gates)

[Grades N Grabba]

This is Vote 2 Sasuke (but no bijuu ps) Vs Team Taijutsu / Dai, Gai & Lee.

- Who'd win

 

[-immortal-]

Sasuke still wins

Amaterasu
Rinnegan genjutsu
And also, amenotejikara is very handy now since if gai wants to attack sasuke. Sasuke switched with Lee autoplay GG

 

[EZQ]

8 gates is a multiplier of power, it won't have the same effect on Dai and Lee.

Gai was kage level, when he used the 8g he became JJ level. On the other hand, Dai was gennin lvl, and when he used 8g he couldn't even kill the 7 swordmen of the mist, since we know kisame killed his own master, but Kisame's master faced Dai, that implies he survived against him.

So 8g Gai >>>>>> 8g lee >>>>> 8g Dai.

Meaning Lee and Dai are non factors so Sasuke stills wins

 

[KidGamer65]

Make them all as strong as Eighth Gate Gai and Sasuke would still solo. Gai would struggle to get past EMS Madara's PS let alone Rinnegan Sasuke's PS. His saving grace is that he can dodge all of Madara's attacks while he hammers away at Susanoo, and he has the power to break it in a few steps. He can't break Sasuke's. He can't even damage it with Evening Elephant, and Night Gai would barely do anything, and he won't be dodging Sasuke's Susanoo left and right.

Sasuke shits.

 

[DMT]

team 2 wins with no difficulty

 

[Touken]

Make them all as strong as Eighth Gate Gai and Sasuke would still solo. Gai would struggle to get past EMS Madara's PS let alone Rinnegan Sasuke's PS. His saving grace is that he can dodge all of Madara's attacks while he hammers away at Susanoo, and he has the power to break it in a few steps. He can't break Sasuke's. He can't even damage it with Evening Elephant, and Night Gai would barely do anything, and he won't be dodging Sasuke's Susanoo left and right.

Sasuke shits.

Madara's PS would take more than a Step to break? What?

 

[KidGamer65]

Madara's PS would take more than a Step to break? What?

The Air Cannon couldn't do anything to the Gudo Dama. The direct hit was able to break a Gudo Dama shield, so it's stronger than a BSM small Bijuu Dama, which only put a hole in Obito's shield, but it's definitely nowhere near the level of SS's punches.

Unless you have sufficient evidence of course.

 

[Shitenshin no jutsu]

Sasuke wins...

 

[DemonicAvenger]

Dai wasn't even able to take out the Kirigakure Swordsmen with the Hachimon. So he's a non-factor.

Lee would be considerably weaker than Gai, and the latter isn't any type of threat to Sasuke as it is.

Sasuke stomps.​

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[Amaterasu]

Dai is non-factor.

If you give Gai feats to Lee, it wouldn't change anything, Sasuke is far superior with his PS. That's it.

Sasuke low-diff

 

[Touken]

The Air Cannon couldn't do anything to the Gudo Dama. The direct hit was able to break a Gudo Dama shield, so it's stronger than a BSM small Bijuu Dama, which only put a hole in Obito's shield, but it's definitely nowhere near the level of SS's punches.

Unless you have sufficient evidence of course.

I don't think that's how the technique works. The Steps could have been infinitely more stronger but they'd still probably wouldn't break a Gudo Dama shield because all it is, is a blast of air, and no blast of air would break that shield if it wasn't hitting against something. That's why 4 Steps couldn't break or even crack the shield [

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] when Naruto's much weaker BSM Bijuu Bomb could. That's also why it only took Gai one Step to break the shield once he had Madara pushing against it [

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[KidGamer65]

I don't think that's how the technique works. The Steps could have been infinitely more stronger but they'd still probably wouldn't break a Gudo Dama shield because all it is, is a blast of air, and no blast of air would break that shield if it wasn't hitting against something. That's why 4 Steps couldn't break or even crack the shield [

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] when Naruto's much weaker BSM Bijuu Bomb could. That's also why it only took Gai one Step to break the shield once he had Madara pushing against it [

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].

It being a blast of air isn't going to make it unable to damage physical objects if that is what you are implying. It's a blast of air dense enough that it appears as an elephant's foot. It makes craters in the ground. 4 Steps didn't crack the shield because 4 steps never hit the shield head on. Only one step did. Gai circled around Madara and hit him with the others from angles where the shield wouldn't block. The only way that I could see it not taking damage regardless of the power, if it just pushed the Gudo Dama shield back as it hit it, but the shield was sturdy, so it'd take the full force of the cannon.

Even then, Madara took the first step w/ only his staff as protection, and it even blew past that and didn't do any damage to him besides maybe a few marks and a chip of his horn broke off. That's not strong enough to break Susanoo. Not a chance. Then there's the fact that one step's best feat is smashing a hole in the Gudo Dama shield, which would put it a good ways above the BSM Bijuu Dama, but not too far since it was also capable of blowing a hole in the Gudo Dama.

It took Gai one stop to smash Madara's shield because it was a direct hit, not because he had something to push against it.

 

[Null Man]

Sasuke wins 0 difficulty.

 

[Touken]

It being a blast of air isn't going to make it unable to damage physical objects if that is what you are implying. It's a blast of air dense enough that it appears as an elephant's foot. It makes craters in the ground. 4 Steps didn't crack the shield because 4 steps never hit the shield head on. Only one step did. Gai circled around Madara and hit him with the others from angles where the shield wouldn't block. The only way that I could see it not taking damage regardless of the power, if it just pushed the Gudo Dama shield back as it hit it, but the shield was sturdy, so it'd take the full force of the cannon.

It makes craters in the ground because there's layers of Earth pushing up against the Step. The shield was in the air so all the Step was going to do was disperse around it. All 4 Steps did hit the shield otherwise Madara would have been knocked away like at the start of the chapter [

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], and you can see that all Steps hit the shield. The shield wouldn't get pushed back if the Step's cannon is dispersing everywhere around it.

Even then, Madara took the first step w/ only his staff as protection, and it even blew past that and didn't do any damage to him besides maybe a few marks and a chip of his horn broke off. That's not strong enough to break Susanoo. Not a chance. Then there's the fact that one step's best feat is smashing a hole in the Gudo Dama shield, which would put it a good ways above the BSM Bijuu Dama, but not too far since it was also capable of blowing a hole in the Gudo Dama.

There's also the point that Madara's Gudo Dama are just stronger than Obito's. Obito's shield got cracked by a Bijuu Senpou Rasengan, and with all bias aside, I really believe an EE Step is stronger than that Rasengan.

It took Gai one stop to smash Madara's shield because it was a direct hit, not because he had something to push against it.

He doesn't need to push against anything if it's no longer an air cannon which it wasn't. Not to mention nothing's stopping Gai from directly hitting Madara's PS since he's too slow to react anyway whereas Gai had to trap Rikodou Madara via 4 Steps then he made his direct assault.

 

[UchihasRightfulHeir]

The Air Cannon couldn't do anything to the Gudo Dama. The direct hit was able to break a Gudo Dama shield, so it's stronger than a BSM small Bijuu Dama, which only put a hole in Obito's shield, but it's definitely nowhere near the level of SS's punches.

Unless you have sufficient evidence of course.

He punched madara. Madara broke through his own goudama sheild. gai wouldn't have been able to break it directly, it's why he had to blitz to the side unprotected by goudama.

OT: Sasuke shits on them. PS + ameno = None of their attack getting through to him. They are liable to kill themselves if sasuke uses ameno to swith someone into his position.

 

[KidGamer65]

It makes craters in the ground because there's layers of Earth pushing up against the Step. The shield was in the air so all the Step was going to do was disperse around it. All 4 Steps did hit the shield otherwise Madara would have been knocked away like at the start of the chapter [

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], and you can see that all Steps hit the shield. The shield wouldn't get pushed back if the Step's cannon is dispersing everywhere around it.

Ok. I'll agree.

There's also the point that Madara's Gudo Dama are just stronger than Obito's. Obito's shield got cracked by a Bijuu Senpou Rasengan, and with all bias aside, I really believe an EE Step is stronger than that Rasengan.

That's an assumption. The Rasengan bit can be explained by your first point. No Gudo Dama shield actually blocked Evening Elephant'spower.

He doesn't need to push against anything if it's no longer an air cannon which it wasn't.

Not sure what you are countering with this statement, unless I'm misunderstanding you here. I know he no longer needs to push against something if he's making a direct hit. That's a reply to this:

That's also why it only took Gai one Step to break the shield once he had Madara pushing against it

I'm saying that he whether or not he had something to push on wasn't the reason it broke.

Not to mention nothing's stopping Gai from directly hitting Madara's PS since he's too slow to react anyway whereas Gai had to trap Rikodou Madara via 4 Steps then he made his direct assault.

Never said that Gai wouldn't or couldn't land a direct hit. I said that it'll take more than one step of Evening Elephant to break PS when it's best feat is only breaking the Gudo Dama, which are not as durable as PS. Nowhere near as durable in fact.

He punched madara. Madara broke through his own goudama sheild. gai wouldn't have been able to break it directly, it's why he had to blitz to the side unprotected by goudama.

The force from his punch is what broke the Gudo Dama. The only reason he can't touch it is because it'll vaporize his hand on contact.

 

[Touken]

That's an assumption. The Rasengan bit can be explained by your first point. No Gudo Dama shield actually blocked Evening Elephant's power.

Not sure what you mean by the bold.

Not sure what you are countering with this statement, unless I'm misunderstanding you here. I know he no longer needs to push against something if he's making a direct hit.

I'm saying that he whether or not he had something to push on wasn't the reason it broke.

Yep, that's my bad. I completely forgot Gai's last Step was a direct hit.

Never said that Gai wouldn't or couldn't land a direct hit. I said that it'll take more than one step of Evening Elephant to break PS when it's best feat is only breaking the Gudo Dama, which are not as durable as PS. Nowhere near as durable in fact.

I thought the Gudo Dama are more durable than PS?

 

[Legendary Toad Sage]

Sasuke takes this easily.

Dai/Lee would pale in comparison to Gai, and not even Gai would be pressuring him.

 

[KidGamer65]

Not sure what you mean by the bold.

You were telling me how EE could be many times stronger and not damage the Gudo Dama because of the nature of the attack. I should've used better wording. Lol. But yeah, that's what I mean by the bold.

Yep, that's my bad. I completely forgot Gai's last Step was a direct hit.

I thought the Gudo Dama are more durable than PS?

They have no durability feat that'd put them on that level. Getting damaged by a small Bijuu Dama is a feat far inferior to PS's tanking of a larger Bijuu Dama w/ no damage.

 

[Xlad]

Stomp in the former's favor.