Shisui and Itachi vs Obito and Kakashi

[Gold Lightning]

physically they could keep up with them. win? no, but abc argument isn't very useful so

point is it wasnt just "kamui gg", they could react to kamui, figure it out, and attempt a counter attack of their own. since itachi/shisui are both smarter, faster, and have better reaction time than those anbu, close ranged kamui shouldnt be much of a big deal.

it's not me trying to use abc logic. It's the fact that the only counter kakashi, naruto, gai and bee could use was kakashi's kamui to counter obitos kamui. Without that they had nothing. They were all much smarter and fater than "those anbu" you keep talking about as well, it didn't help though.

Now we have one featless uchiha who got owned by danzo, plus itachi, against a superior MS user with Hashirama cells. Unlike itachi and shisui, he can spam his ms without any drawbacks, unlike itachi who could go blind any second. And they still have nothing to hit obito with. If he just spams kamui all day, he'll outlast them both, because his chakra is above both of theirs. Even kcm naruto was almost 1 shotted by obito with kamui, and only his sensing saved him. Neither itachi or shisui are sensors, so what happens if obito comes from underground like he did against naruto. They're also both slower than kcm naruto (well shisui is quite fast), so I don't see how they handle kamui.

Unless KA comes into play

 

[Songbird Supreme]

they dont really need to "handle kamui" per se, just avoid it/play around it like the anbu did until they come up with a solution. tsukuyomi can still kill him.

 

[Gold Lightning]

they dont really need to "handle kamui" per se, just avoid it/play around it like the anbu did until they come up with a solution. tsukuyomi can still kill him.

They can do that, but how long will they last? Obito can also just troll with kamui all day long, and like I said, he has hashirama cells. He will outlast them both. Especially itachi who isn't exactly a person with large chakra or perfect health. And obito will take these 2 uchiha seriosuly, unlike Fu and Torune (tired of calling them "those anbu").

Obito possesses the Mangekyou and has Uchiha blood. Tsukuyomi isn't gonna work when 3 tomoe Sasuke can break it. Plus he knows all about tsukuymo, he isn't gonna fall for it. Especially when he planned inifnite tsukuyomi for most of his life.

 

[Songbird Supreme]

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didnt itachi let sasuke break out of it? lol

you need the same blood as itachi and ms in order to break it. obito has only one of those, so, like kakashi, he'd be able to fight it to an extent but not break it and that wont be enough to overcome the effects of tsukuyomi. not to mention he only has one ms, not two. that affects his chances greatly as well.

for example its like ems. you can get ems by taking another clan member's ms and implanting their eyes in your own, but your chances dwindle by a huuuuge amount if its not from a family member, as proven by all those attempts the uchiha clan had. the more blood you share the higher your chances are, and obito isn't his brother.

knowing about genjutsu doesn't mean your immune to it. orochimaru for example had been researching about the uchiha/sharingan for his whole life and still fell prey to basic 3t.

 

[Lord of Akatsuki]

Non-canon feats for Shisui shows that he spars all the time with Itachi and actually wins.`Non-canon feats show that he has Susano'o as well. He was even stated as the strongest Uchiha in the entire clan in that era. Kabuto equated getting his DNA to getting Jiraiya's DNA. And Obito was totally shitting his pants at the mention of Shisui.

Shisui Uchiha is a legend, he was the greatest Genjutsu user to ever grace the clan, KA is not the only one at his disposal, merely the strongest.

He only couldn't react to Danzo because he was taken by surprise and filler shit, I doubt it went down like that in the manga, personally, I like the games version better.

I don't think Shisui gets taken out just like that. Obito could easily beat Itachi though, I might have to go with team 2 on this one.

 

[Selan]

Either Obito or Kakashi can solo this. Kamui GG. Neither Itachi nor Shisui can avoid to be warped by Kakashi or trolled by Obito.

 

[Universal Enlightenment]

Shisui wins low diff solo

The man can cast sharingan genjutsu without being in the sharingan view or sight
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No competition at all.