Kids and Gender Neutral

[Yubel]

Thus the plot is resolved.

I am not here to lecture, but if you want to argue about gender matters you might as well know about them. First and most important thing you need to know about women: they are people. Sounds simple but this fact have not sunk in for many men and even women.

So you're implying you know everything there is to know about genders?
I don't need to know about women to talk about men.

 

[paratise]

So you're implying you know everything there is to know about genders?
I don't need to know about women to talk about men.

I don't say i know everything. .. but i know things atleast. I know people are people regardless of gender.

Yeah you actually need to do so. Your arguments with people here proves that.
If you wanna say stuff like "feminine" "pu$$ified" "i don't think women can relate to this and that" you might aswell have a tad bit idea on what are you talking about. If your way of defining a man goes by disregarding and belittling women, you clearly need some ideas.

 

[Punk Hazard]

I'm 20.

Yeah I can't say I know much about women at all.

Ah you still have time then.

 

[Yubel]

I don't say i know everything. .. but i know things atleast. I know people are people regardless of gender.

Yeah you actually need to do so. Your arguments with people here proves that.
If you wanna say stuff like "feminine" "pu$$ified" "i don't think women can relate to this and that" you might aswell have a tad bit idea on what are you talking about. If your way of defining a man goes by disregarding and belittling women, you clearly need some ideas.

There is such a thing as masculine and feminine. I didn't say anything to belittle women.
You only chose to interpret it that way but I can say what I want.

 

[TheAncientCenturion]

As long as they aren't a minority or jewish, I am fine if I have a son that plays with dolls.

 

[Punk Hazard]

There is such a thing as masculine and feminine. I didn't say anything to belittle women.
You only chose to interpret it that way but I can say what I want.

You kind of did. You view a man having feminine aspects as wrong, that implies there's something wrong with feminine aspects. You also initially implied that security with oneself, acceptance of reality, maturity and a passion/goal in life are things that are only masculine and only men have. When addressed for it, implying became confirmation when you said you doubt women can relate to that.

Masculine and feminine are man-determined concepts. They aren't practical to survival or existence in any way, and actually just adds unnecessary BS to life.

But, like I said, you still have time. You're just 20.

 

[Funky Tiger]

As long as they aren't a minority or jewish, I am fine if I have a son that plays with dolls.

based billy.

 

[Funky Tiger]

But, like I said, you still have time. You're just 20.

lmao arent you a teenager

 

[paratise]

You kind of did. You view a man having feminine aspects as wrong, that implies there's something wrong with feminine aspects. You also initially implied that security with oneself, acceptance of reality, maturity and a passion/goal in life are things that are only masculine and only men have. When addressed for it, implying became confirmation when you said you doubt women can relate to that.

Masculine and feminine are man-determined concepts. They aren't practical to survival or existence in any way, and actually just adds unnecessary BS to life.

But, like I said, you still have time. You're just 20.

This. Thank you.

 

[Punk Hazard]

lmao arent you a teenager

What exactly is your point? Doesn't change that he still has time.

 

[Funky Tiger]

What exactly is your point? Doesn't change that he still has time.

nothing, but that is a pretty weak point to use in a debate against someone older than you. if that dude wasn't full of shit already he could've used it to get away.

 

[Yubel]

You kind of did. You view a man having feminine aspects as wrong, that implies there's something wrong with feminine aspects. You also initially implied that security with oneself, acceptance of reality, maturity and a passion/goal in life are things that are only masculine and only men have. When addressed for it, implying became confirmation when you said you doubt women can relate to that.

Masculine and feminine are man-determined concepts. They aren't practical to survival or existence in any way, and actually just adds unnecessary BS to life.

But, like I said, you still have time. You're just 20.

It is but instead of thinking I insulted what is feminine why not just accept it the way it is? The same would be true in reverse imo, a masculine woman doesn't feel right to me either.

Masculine and feminine are very important for survival, what are you talking about? I can see how it's easy to forget but 3000 years of civilization won't alter human nature. Men and women are designed different, gender roles came about in tribe days when the man would hunt and the woman would store food, collecting plants and firewood, hauling water etc. Both were equally important but without that cooperation we wouldn't be here today. People now think it's cool to say gender is a societal construct but it's more a natural construct because it was meant to be that way.

And if you have something to say go ahead. You don't need to act superior because you're older if you are.

 

[Punk Hazard]

nothing, but that is a pretty weak point to use in a debate against someone older than you. if that dude wasn't full of shit already he could've used it to get away.

This kind of growing up isn't about age. Like Kagetora said in his initial rant, some men's bodies may grow, but they don't internally.

It is but instead of thinking I insulted what is feminine why not just accept it the way it is? The same would be true in reverse imo, a masculine woman doesn't feel right to me either.

Masculine and feminine are very important for survival, what are you talking about? I can see how it's easy to forget but 3000 years of civilization won't alter human nature. Men and women are designed different, gender roles came about in tribe days when the man would hunt and the woman would store food, collecting plants and firewood, hauling water etc. Both were equally important but without that cooperation we wouldn't be here today. People now think it's cool to say gender is a societal construct but it's more a natural construct because it was meant to be that way.

And if you have something to say go ahead. You don't need to act superior because you're older if you are.

Because that's dumb. Like I said, division of things as masculine and feminine and saying only men should do this and only women should do that is dumb. It compromises the happiness of others, puts certain pressures on everyone, and accomplishes nothing, other to make a few immature people feel better. Wink wink, hint hint, nudge nudge, that includes you.

Sorry, I prefer not to base what we do in life around what the slobbering, unintelligent, shitting-on-themselves neanderthals did. If we're gonna recede back to primal behavior, then I'm wondering what was the point of us evolving as a species in the first place.

You're stuck in the past, buddy. I don't know if you've noticed, but there are women who are working while their husbands stay at home. IDK what third-world country you're stuck in, but there hasn't been a need for a man to go out and hunt the deer a few yards from his home while the woman uses a stick to find water.

That worked for neanderthals in their world because you had to kill what you ate with your bare hands and maybe a spear or two. So, they let the men who are naturally stronger, go out and kill. Now, we hunt for food in the supermarket. How to store food? Open your fridge. The things that once a man only could do, such as provide food and housing, can be done by both genders. Gender division was essential then, it is not now. Times change, people change with it.

 

[Yubel]

This kind of growing up isn't about age. Like Kagetora said in his initial rant, some men's bodies may grow, but they don't internally.


Because that's dumb. Like I said, division of things as masculine and feminine and saying only men should do this and only women should do that is dumb. It compromises the happiness of others, puts certain pressures on everyone, and accomplishes nothing, other to make a few immature people feel better. Wink wink, hint hint, nudge nudge, that includes you.

Sorry, I prefer not to base what we do in life around what the slobbering, unintelligent, shitting-on-themselves neanderthals did. If we're gonna recede back to primal behavior, then I'm wondering what was the point of us evolving as a species in the first place.

You're stuck in the past, buddy. I don't know if you've noticed, but there are women who are working while their husbands stay at home. IDK what third-world country you're stuck in, but there hasn't been a need for a man to go out and hunt the deer a few yards from his home while the woman uses a stick to find water.

That worked for neanderthals in their world because you had to kill what you ate with your bare hands and maybe a spear or two. So, they let the men who are naturally stronger, go out and kill. Now, we hunt for food in the supermarket. How to store food? Open your fridge. The things that once a man only could do, such as provide food and housing, can be done by both genders. Gender division was essential then, it is not now. Times change, people change with it.

I see you're a brainwashed kid, I feel sorry for you. You claimed masculine and feminine wasn't neccessary for survival and I told you why we're alive to debate something this stupid in the first place. Also if you don't think we're still full of primal behavior then you're just the delusional person I was talking about. Look at how the world is, you still think we're oh so sophisticated because we live in a society? We can be colonizing galaxies millions of years from and I'll let you know human nature is timeless. We'll still behave just like we are right now just maybe more intelligently but we'll still engage in primal behavior, wake up kid.

 

[shelke]

This debate is still going? No matter what you say, Riker, 20 is too old to grow up.

 

[Punk Hazard]

I see you're a brainwashed kid, I feel sorry for you. You claimed masculine and feminine wasn't neccessary for survival and I told you why we're alive to debate something this stupid in the first place. Also if you don't think we're still full of primal behavior then you're just the delusional person I was talking about. Look at how the world is, you still think we're oh so sophisticated because we live in a society? We can be colonizing galaxies millions of years from and I'll let you know human nature is timeless. We'll still behave just like we are right now just maybe more intelligently but we'll still engage in primal behavior, wake up kid.

Ya sure a guy playing with dolls=death of species.

This debate is still going? No matter what you say, Riker, 20 is to old to grow up.

Ya sure.

 

[EnderWolf1013]

I'll buy them what they won't (I don't mean this in a spoiling way), as long as it isn't incredibly towards the opposite gender

i.e: I'm not buying my son a ****ing dress or make up

 

[China IL]

Gender roles can suck my **** tbh.

 

[adeshina365]

It's disturbing that these discussions are even being had in the first place. This society is crumbling right before our eyes. Though I'm not worried since this likely spells the end of western hegemony.

 

[Punk Hazard]

It's disturbing that these discussions are even being had in the first place. This society is crumbling right before our eyes. Though I'm not worried since this likely spells the end of western hegemony.

A society that makes people feel like shit for uncompromising to unpractical, inpragmatic roles that serve no purpose? Please, society's taking a step in the right direction by pushing the bullshit out of the way. The sooner this nonsense and the people that push it die off, the better.