Kids and Gender Neutral

[-immortal-]

Says society and gender roles but whatever.I'm not going to restrict my kids with certain toys.

Society doesn't say it. I say it.

 

[Anorien16]

Ummm ... cant the children choose for themselves what they enjoy?

Also how can you actually make a child play with something they dont like or enjoy? I would like to know the secret.

 

[Conspirator.]

Ummm ... cant the children choose for themselves what they enjoy?

Also how can you actually make a child play with something they dont like or enjoy? I would like to know the secret.

I have to agree with this.

 

[paratise]

Everything is gender neutral when you do not look from society based perspective.

I played with toys made for both genders (dolls, legos, cars, action figures, make up stuff) but i did not grow a testicle :|

What i notice is people are more chill with their daughters doing "guy stuff" while not okay with their boys doing "girl stuff".

Like It is ok if you are a girl who wants to go karate and make towers from legos but not much if you are a boy who wants to dress up a barbie. It is because doing "man stuff" are cool and better while doing "feminine stuff" is lowly and insulting. And this shit is even made by some parents or females who claim they are for equality while demeaning feminine attiributes. This type of mindset limits males and belittles females.

 

[Yubel]

Everything is gender neutral when you do not look from society based perspective.

I played with toys made for both genders (dolls, legos, cars, action figures, make up stuff) but i did not grow a testicle :|

What i notice is people are more chill with their daughters doing "guy stuff" while not okay with their boys doing "girl stuff".

Like It is ok if you are a girl who wants to go karate and make towers from legos but not much if you are a boy who wants to dress up a barbie. It is because doing "man stuff" are cool and better while doing "feminine stuff" is lowly and insulting. And this shit is even made by some parents or females who claim they are for equality while demeaning feminine attiributes. This type of mindset limits males and belittles females.

The world doesn't need more feminine guys, most modern men are already pussified.

 

[paratise]

The world doesn't need more feminine guys, most modern men are already pussified.

World does not need more or less feminine or masculine people. World needs people who can be free to do what they want as long as they are not harmless.

The whole "being feminine = being pu§§y" thing is internally sexist, but i highly doubt you are even aware of it.

 

[Yubel]

World does not need more or less feminine or masculine people. World needs people who can be free to do what they want as long as they are not harmless.

The whole "being feminine = being pu§§y" thing is internally sexist, but i highly doubt you are even aware of it.

Children are supposed to grow up with certain boundaries that are clear cut because they have a black and white way of viewing the world. That's how they grow up to be respectable adults. The whole "let's do what we want aslong as it don't harm you" comes from a childish worldview that will inevitably create irresponsible depraved people. A boy needs to know what being a man is about to become a proper man when he grows up. Your logic is the same one the media have used to sexualize cartoons and millennial children as a result.

 

[paratise]

Children are supposed to grow up with certain boundaries that are clear cut because they have a black and white way of viewing the world. That's how they grow up to be respectable adults. The whole "let's do what we want aslong as it don't harm you" comes from a childish worldview that will inevitably create irresponsible depraved people. A boy needs to know what being a man is about to become a proper man when he grows up. Your logic is the same one the media have used to sexualize cartoons and millennial children as a result.

-says children have a black and white view of world
-says children should grow up with certain boundries
-says i am being childish

Lol. You fit your own definition of being childish. You are the one who views world black and white, and wishes it to be that way.

 

[Bantos]

If I ever have children, I'm buying them the toys they want.

 

[Yubel]

-says children have a black and white view of world
-says children should grow up with certain boundries
-says i am being childish

Lol. You fit your own definition of being childish. You are the one who views world black and white, and wishes it to be that way.

I don't view the world black and white at all, you think you don't either but you're demonstrating that you do with your comment. A child is supposed to be looked over and be given boundaries, only an adult should have the full freedom to make their own decisions but freedom comes with responsibility and aslong as they're not capable of taking care of themselves they must be guided. Here is the other thing, you think you're doing good by letting a child do whatever it wants but you don't know everything that is good for a child. Their development must be taken seriously and that means to encourage certain behavior. There might come a day when your kid will grow up to resent you because you didn't stop it from doing something that it now regrets doing. You look like you'd be a failed parent, please don't reproduce untill you get your own head straight.

 

[paratise]

I don't view the world black and white at all, you think you don't either but you're demonstrating that you do with your comment. A child is supposed to be looked over and be given boundaries, only an adult should have the full freedom to make their own decisions but freedom comes with responsibility and aslong as they're not capable of taking care of themselves they must be guided. Here is the other thing, you think you're doing good by letting a child do whatever it wants but you don't know everything that is good for a child. Their development must be taken seriously and that means to encourage certain behavior. There might come a day when your kid will grow up to resent you because you didn't stop it from doing something that it now regrets doing. You look like you'd be a failed parent, please don't reproduce untill you get your own head straight.

But appearantly you do know what is good for a child amirite?

I never said their development is not serious. I am taking it seriously actually, not taking it seriously would be something like uhh...maybe fitting them into social constructs regardless of what they may feel like? That is laziness. Brainwashing instead of listening, swallowing every given norm, ignoring because one may not know how things work and differ; these are being lazy and not serious.

Lol don't tell me what to do. I can reproduce if i have means to raise a child; and if letting a boy play with a doll if he wants is somehow translates to a failed parent for you i think there is not much to discuss here (you are the one who quoted me and i do not know why i even try).

 

[Yubel]

But appearantly you do know what is good for a child amirite?

I never said their development is not serious. I am taking it seriously actually, not taking it seriously would be something like uhh...maybe fitting them into social constructs regardless of what they may feel like? That is laziness. Brainwashing instead of listening, swallowing every given norm, ignoring because one may not know how things work and differ; these are being lazy and not serious.

Lol don't tell me what to do. I can reproduce if i have means to raise a child; and if letting a boy play with a doll if he wants is somehow translates to a failed parent for you i think there is not much to discuss here (you are the one who quoted me and i do not know why i even try).

Go ahead let your son play with barbies, give him a pink dress when he goes to school and if he ever plays any sport he'll use the girls lockeroom because it's fine aslong as no one gets harmed. Oh and when he grows into a transgender freak who is confused, suicidal and can't find his place, give him a final push and say you did it because you believe in gender neutrality.

 

[shelke]

You all do realize that action figures are also dolls, right? Anyhow, gender is a social construct not a biological factor. I don't plan on having kids, but hypothetically speaking, teaching them right from wrong and instilling humane behaviour is more than enough.

These stereotypes are baseless anyway; man-made and subject to change.

Also i find it quite ironic that Allowing boys to play with half naked muscle men (Action man in my day or wrestling figures) was more masculine than playing with an Half naked (or completely naked) Doll based on the female body.

Strange how these things play out when you look at them properly XD

I agree, and I don't get this either; as BOTH are dolls.

Sure. I'll give you a couple.

1. It's not natural (kids can't be naturally made without scientific intervention).
2. It destroys the family. A kid isn't going to have either a father or mother, and it's been proven that a lack of one or the other causes negative effects on children and their well-being.
3. Infidelity rates are much, much higher than heterosexual couples.
4. Homosexuals contract more STDs than heterosexuals. I don't think I need to explain why that's wrong.
5. Homosexual marriage could cause (and this is 100% hypothetical) a slippery slope that leads to other, unnatural things being legalized.

I'm sure there's more, but those are ones off of the top of my head.

Aren't you proud that you have made such an embarrassingly ignorant post? Wait, you had more to share? I cannot wait for those facts to come out of your mouth.

 

[shelke]

The world doesn't need more feminine guys, most modern men are already pussified.

What is manly? I can't wait to read this.

Lol

 

[Conspirator.]

Sure. I'll give you a couple.

1. It's not natural (kids can't be naturally made without scientific intervention).

Them not being able to have kids doesn't mean that it's not natural. How come homosexuality has been discovered in hundreds of mammalian species besides human beings. Is that "not natural" too?

2. It destroys the family. A kid isn't going to have either a father or mother, and it's been proven that a lack of one or the other causes negative effects on children and their well-being.

Doesn't mean that it's wrong. Either way, it's quality of the parents that is more imperative. 2 good homosexuality parents beats 2 negligent heterosexual parents.

3. Infidelity rates are much, much higher than heterosexual couples.

That doesn't mean that it's wrong though. I'm sorry, but infidelity is a sin of the individual, not homosexuality in itself. So that cannot be used as an argument to say that it's wrong.

4. Homosexuals contract more STDs than heterosexuals. I don't think I need to explain why that's wrong.

There's an obvious explanation for that. Homosexuals can't have kids via ordinary *** like a heterosexual couple can. Sans the danger of having a kid when you are not ready to raise a child, which can be a rather icky experience for all the parties involved, you're obviously going to be more psychologically inclined to practice "unsafe" ***. This, however, does not mean that homosexuality is a disease, is morally wrong, or that you should force a homosexual to deliberately eschew their natural tendencies. In fact, this would also explain a greater infidelity between homosexuals too, but I'm not sure if that's even true to begin with. Either way, it still doesn't mean that it's wrong.

5. Homosexual marriage could cause (and this is 100% hypothetical) a slippery slope that leads to other, unnatural things being legalized.

Homosexuality is not unnatural. Point blank. Period. However, being natural doesn't mean that something is right by itself. Homosexuality is not wrong, because it doesn't impinge on anyone else's rights. In other words, no-one is hurt from 2 adults engaging in homosexual acts with consent. What are these "unnatural" things you speak of? Bestiality, incest? Those are not congruent situations to the homosexual issue.

I'm sure there's more, but those are ones off of the top of my head.

Not really.

 

[paratise]

Go ahead let your son play with barbies, give him a pink dress when he goes to school and if he ever plays any sport he'll use the girls lockeroom because it's fine aslong as no one gets harmed. Oh and when he grows into a transgender freak who is confused, suicidal and can't find his place, give him a final push and say you did it because you believe in gender neutrality.

My kid won't be a freak who is confused and suicidal because they will have a place, if they identifiy as a gender not assigned to them at birth. Jeez i wonder how these people become suicidal and confused, it can not be that they are belittled, discriminated, unaccepted, violated by people i guess.

Btw me and my sister played with legos and did several sports, my brother's favorite color was pink and made jeweleries/played dolls with his sisters; we all are cisgendered and straight as arrows. Sexuality and preferences of toys/activities are not mutually inclusive.

Anyway you said i would be a bad parent, this person seems to adopt a better parenthood philosophy than me i think;

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[Yubel]

What is manly? I can't wait to read this.

Lol

To talk about what a real man is, we first need to look at what he is not.
This is insecurity, fear and delusion, these can all be summed up as simply: weakness
On the other hand, we can say that everything a man is can be summed up as strength.

Insecurity creates a need for validation, if you look at the modern man, that's almost all he cares for, external things like getting rich, getting that nice job, getting that promotion, getting a nice car and being envious of another man's success. This way of going about life comes from not believing you're enough, this behavior is a manifestation of your childish need for permission. You can't be happy unless other people qualify you as good enough and even then this is a never-ending struggle because you will always compare yourself to others so you will never be fulfilled.

Fear creates a need for dependency, you work at a job you don't like because you're afraid of what would happen if you lost it because you don't think you can stand on your own feet. Your fear enslaves you to other people because you're incapable of taking full responsibility of your life. This too is a manifestation of your childish need for security, you have a subconcious desire to run back to mommy and daddy when life gets tough. The same way your parents ruled over you when you were a child is the same way everyone in your life will rule over you if you're afraid of taking care of yourself.

Delusion creates a need for comfort, instead of seeing things how they are, most modern men delude themselves into thinking everything will be fine or they outright deny reality when it's staring them in the face. Being delusional might make you feel better but it blinds you to what is actually happening because you can't handle the truth. As with the others this is also a manifestation of your childish need for instant gratification. It's such a passive way to live life, you can't take being uncomfortable and do what it takes so you can be happy afterwards. You're a sheep who is being told lies because you want to. As a child you need everything to be vanilla so you can live in passive consumption. When reality gives you a rude awakening you get angry because you feel life owes you anything. This is a person who is told they're fat but don't want to hear it, this is a person who is told they're going to die if they don't do something but rationalize why they're ok. This is merely one example of countless others that plague modern men.

As you have noticed, these things are all linked to children so these weaknesses in men can more accurately be summed up as boyhood. Men who possess these qualities haven't made the full transition from boyhood to manhood. They haven't become real men yet, perhaps they're men physically(even that is declining nowadays) but on the inside they're still little boys who exhibit the traits of one. So now I believe we have successfully established what a man is not. In order to become a real man you must cut yourself from these boyish traits.

However the process of cutting these things are not a direct and simple process, the bridge that leads to manhood is what is called purpose. As a man, you must have a reason for living, a goal, a dream, a vision, a mission, whatever you want to call it and strive to make that thing a reality. A man who doesn't have a purpose is as good as dead.

When you have a purpose, the journey itself will shed the qualities of boyhood and force you to develop strong principles and habits that will serve you for a lifetime. When you're not insecure, you're happy with yourself. When you're not fearful, you're confident. When you're not delusional you're courageous because it takes courage to face the truth.

When you're on your purpose, you won't be bothered by the insignificant things that worry you on a daily basis, you won't be afraid to stand on your own feet, you won't be comparing yourself to others because you have pride in yourself regardless of external circumstances. You won't be beaten down or depressed aslong as you're making progress.
That's being strong, that's what being a man is.

 

[Songbird Supreme]

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you should stop lmao

 

[Yubel]

you should stop lmao

I wasn't talking to you.

 

[Songbird Supreme]

I wasn't talking to you.

Is that supposed to mean something?