Poll: Is Team 7 On Par Intellectually?
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UzumakiWade
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The Demon Hawk
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No doubt. We're both doing the same thing. Stating our opinion, staying firm on it and denying the different claim. So no wonder you have the same feeling. The only difference is you're basing your opinion off Naruto's clever thinking at some points while I'm basing my opinion on Sasuke's overall intellectual capability. You'd have a different opinion if you had better analyzing skills and realistic discernment.
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Sakura> Sasuke>/=Kuruma>Naruto
This scan proves the dynamics of team 7
Its heavily showcased in the chunnin exams. Sasuke isn't as smart as Saskue. he is just keen on his feet, and quick thinker.
I dont get this Naruto > Sakura in battle smarts BS.
If Sakura can easily read attacks.
Highly resistant to genjutsu
And her fighitng style revolves on dodging attacks.
And she isn't even a doujutsu user
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This scan proves the dynamics of team 7
Its heavily showcased in the chunnin exams. Sasuke isn't as smart as Saskue. he is just keen on his feet, and quick thinker.
I dont get this Naruto > Sakura in battle smarts BS.
If Sakura can easily read attacks.
Highly resistant to genjutsu
And her fighitng style revolves on dodging attacks.
And she isn't even a doujutsu user
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Dr Gilgamesh
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UzumakiWade
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Yes.
Yes.
Nope, im basing it off on Naruto's overall battle plans, strategies and moves.
I never disagreed that in general knowledge for Sasuke to be smarter than Naruto. I agree with that, but when it comes to battle smarts, Naruto is definitely the best.
Fortunately, i do have realistic discernement and analyzing skills and i don't doubt my opinion for a second. Maybe its time for you to get some better analyzing skills m8.
JustSomeRandomNinja
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Sasuke is a battle genius and is very knowledgeable, but sucks at social and political understandings.
Naruto is a quick off the wall thinker that can give even a battle genius a hard time. Has better social skills but is still kind of an idiot.
Sakura is the smartest by cannon in many things except battles.
So no, they're not on par cuz they have different expertise in different areas
Naruto is a quick off the wall thinker that can give even a battle genius a hard time. Has better social skills but is still kind of an idiot.
Sakura is the smartest by cannon in many things except battles.
So no, they're not on par cuz they have different expertise in different areas
JustSomeRandomNinja
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Sorry Fem but:
Sakura nearly got killed by JJ Madra because she tried to blitz him without knowing what he was capable of and knowing he was way more powerful then her. That's not smart on any level.
Sasuke genjutsu'd the **** out her like it was nothing, so she's not immune.
Her fighting style revolved around charging in and punching. Not a lot of skill involved
Even if she was a doujutsu user, pretty sure Kishi would find a way to make her the least impressive
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I didn't see her about to die ? Scans, she was not at all phase, and madara did nothing but find behind an invisible wall.
Her purpose was to be a distraction, and she did so.
I never said she was immune to genjutsu , I said resistant , and she was only effected because she was low on chakra and emotional, she broke the genjutsu but fainted because she was low on chakra
Sakura has shikamaru feats battle wise. Her intellect replicate what sasuke said sharrigan does , her vitamins that revolves around analyzing and striking .
In the scan I provided sasuke clearly didn't deny it
The Demon Hawk
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You're just thinking that you're basing it off Naruto's overall battle plans and strategies, because you think quick and clever thinking at some points translates into an overall battle genius. Aside from the fight with Pain, there's no point at which you can prove Naruto as a combat genius. If you think you can, why don't you go ahead and try...
I'm not talking about general knowledge, though Sasuke is better in that aspect. I'm talking about thinking, planning and developing strategies as well as analyzing skills.
@bold Unfortunately, you don't. You just think you have but you suck at it big time.
And yeah, I need realistic discernment just because you disagree with me? That's nice and a great decisive conclusion! Nothing in your post denies anything I've said aside from your opinion, which I'm least bothered about.
Prove Naruto's battle intellect (try to), and then I'll show you the difference between an actual combat genius and a quick thinker. But please tell me, do you wish to include everything from the start in this argument or not? You decide whatever time period you want for the comparison and I'll comply because I can counter anything you have to say at any point in time.
I could have easily proved Sasuke's dominance in battle sense in any time period, but I want to take this in a counter argument fashion. You strike first...
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UzumakiWade
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Because i am.
Some points? In almost every battle he was pulling out all types of strategies.
Obviously you don't read the manga enough, 3/4 of his battles show him using his battle smarts and outwitting his opponents.
Which Naruto is better in that aspect.
My analytical skills are definitely a hell lot better than yours thats for sure.
Isn't that the same reason you told me i need realistic discernment? Because i disagree with your opinion? So whats the difference?
Thanks, but i mostly just did what you did.
Nothing in your post really denies anything either.
Okay, theres the part 1 neji fight, pain fight, kakuzu fight, edo raikage fight, sasuke fight, obito fight, kaguya fight.
These are a few examples of the fights where he outwitted his opponents.
Sure.
Well same here.
If your so sure you can "easily" prove Sasuke's dominance in battle sense then prove it, because honestly i dont believe it for a second.
The Demon Hawk
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No, you aren't. You're just thinking you are.
Please learn the meaning of the word "strategy". Pulling out some tricks and quick thinking at some points is from no angle a strategy. I can't believe I'm actually carrying on with an idiot like you.
I do read the manga. The problem is that I interpret it correctly, unlike you.
Ya think... Well, it hardly matters.
Haha! Good joke. I wouldn't get mad because I understand the thinking of idiots.
No, it's different. I concluded you needed realistic discernment because of your crappy argument. See the context. Whereas you concluded I needed realistic discernment because you didn't agree with what I said. Again, refer to your post and your reason for this advice.
You said that you didn't doubt your opinion, and then concluded I needed realistic discernment based on that. That's a MANIFEST difference, and that's exactly what I mean when I say you lack comprehension.
But I didn't establish anything based on that, unlike you. Understand the difference, for God's sake. Each one of your post makes me feel like an idiot for arguing with a fool like you.
I didn't say it does, unlike you.
I didn't ask for a list of fights. I want YOUR inference from that fight. What makes you think Naruto is a great strategist referring to those fights? I know clearly that you're misinterpreting the word "strategy", but I still want an on point answer from you, because I need to counter you properly. It's the only way to show you that you lack analyzing and interpretation skills.
Ah. It's gonna be interesting but long and tiring. But anyway, I'll provide my reasons after I counter yours.
Sure you can counter everything I've to say, but with utter crap. Because the contextual dominance of your points is as light as a feather because of your lacking comprehensive capability.
You don't need to believe it. It doesn't matter whether you believe or not. And I'll definitely prove that, but after your evidences. Because I want to first prove you wrong, and demonstrate your lack of comprehension and interpretation.
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UzumakiWade
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I am, you're just thinking im not.
I have, unlike you.
Did i say it was? Learn to read please, i said that not only does he pull out tricks with quick thinking but he also comes up with strategies.
Im having a hard time believing that i haven't just dropped this argument myself, i mean, anyone else would have quit with someone as stupid as you.
No, you just think you do, when in actuality all you do is just read the pretty pictures while people with actual brains like us interpret the manga.
Why doesn't it.
Wasn't a joke, and im not surprised you would understand because well...your quite the idiot yourself.
Which was still better than yours though.
Lmao, bullshit, we all know because i didn't agree with your argument at first, you thought i had realistic discernment.
I never established a reason for why i said you had realistic discernment, i just said my reason was your reason, because you disagreed with me.
And? Do you doubt your opinion? Of course not.
Thats true, you do need it.
Yet my comprehension skills are better than yours, quite a mystery hmm?
Please read your post before you post it, you did.
You don't need to feel like an idiot...well because you are one.
Do you have short term memory loss or something? Because judging by how slow you are on keeping up you sure do sound like you have it.
Why should i input my inference? Those fights show some of Naruto's greatest strategies and battle smarts.
Because of the fact he won most of them by forming strategies.
Lmao, its easy to say someone is misinterpreting the word when you yourself dont know the definition of it.
I already gave an answer.
Which you won't be able to do.
Which you won't be able to do, i already proved your lack of analyzing and interpretation skills though.
Well with you as my opponent, i can expect it to be exhausting. Why don't you just go ahead first, since you obviously think that im incorrectly constructing an argument. Show me how its done Lol.
Utter crap yet its still better than your bullshit, you can't even counter me.
That pretty much goes both ways tbh, leaning more towards you side.
Yet my comprehensive capability is still leagues ahead of yours.
I think it does. Since your only trying to prove this to me.
I'd like to see you try lol.
already posted my evidences.
Which you won't be able to.
You can try but you won't succeed, i already proved your lack of comprehension and interpretation...and pretty much intelligence in general.
The Demon Hawk
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OMG! I just can't believe you! You're an absolute moron. Or maybe, you're simply a troll who doesn't have any idea what to do with his spare time, so you're here as a traditional forum douchebag...
Well, since I'm arguing with such a dumbf**k, I think it will be pointless to prolong this argument, since we'll get nowhere at all. It's better to just cease it here because someone like you isn't worthy of my response. This is my last reply and it ends (not an actual convincing reply, but just to finish things, since I already said you aren't worthy of my response)...
1. Go to elementary school
2. Ask your teacher to explain you what "strategy" means
It's a waste of time, but I'll try to give you an idea (I know your brain can't keep up, but if you try hard, and pray to God, maybe, just maybe, you'll understand). So, strategy is your complete plan in a battle, how you shape of the battle to your own benefit, how you analyze the situation and adapt to them and counter them with available resources. It's consists of a series of thinking and ideas based on circumstances. It's understanding and molding the entire flow of battle based on your strengths and the enemy's weaknesses. It's not just a random thought suitable only for the moment. It isn't some move you quickly come up with based on that particular moment. Cleverness at certain things and a quick idea is quite different from a strategy.
Strategy is something like you observe in Sasuke's fight against Diedara. He observed Diedara's every move, every hand sign and every jutsu. He understood the nature of everything and countered it properly. He saw that Diedara used Earth Style, and used lightning style to counter it. He tested certain jutsus by understanding their working nature. He clarified the ambiguous part that what was the actual reason of the going off of Diedara's explosives. Was it because of Diedara's deactivation or because of his jutsu. He established his hypothesis from that. He formulated battle plans. He deactivated a land mine through Chidori sword, and took advantage of that to extent his reach to attack Diedara, who was away from his reach. That's killing two birds with one stone. That's what you call a strategy.
Show me at any place in the manga, where Naruto understand the whole nature and working of an entire battle and prepared his attacks based on that. And I'm talking about the whole understanding of the battle, not just a clever move. Even during Pain's fight (the only fight in which he actually used some strategy) doesn't match up to Sasuke's strategy.
In my previous post, I told you to provide your inference. That's how you provide your inference like how I did.
He did use strategies in many battles. But quality-wise, they don't match up to Sasuke's strategy. And quantity-wise, they again don't match up. I'm not saying Naruto never used strategy. But in comparison to Sasuke, Naruto trails in strategy development.
@bold That's wrong. But no problem. You're still in your learning phase. Things can go wrong. Don't worry. Since your brain is starting to work properly (you understood an idiom, Good God), it will take little time for you to enhance your comprehension skills. But just keep working hard.
Now, don't give a follow up comment because it is really not needed. And if you're really adamant about replying to my post, then give some logic and reasoning, otherwise don't bother. Because I'll only reply to you if you match up to my caliber. Otherwise, I hesitate to take on persistent weaklings like you who are suffering from brain malfunction.
Peace out, dude!
Well, since I'm arguing with such a dumbf**k, I think it will be pointless to prolong this argument, since we'll get nowhere at all. It's better to just cease it here because someone like you isn't worthy of my response. This is my last reply and it ends (not an actual convincing reply, but just to finish things, since I already said you aren't worthy of my response)...
Nice try, but hardly believable.
Really you did? Well, that simply means you need to start school again, because it's dead wrong.
Maybe some, but that's nothing to place him above Sasuke.
Now's your time. GTFO!
Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha!
I was talking about your opinion, since everything here is just your opinion, nothing more. BTW, you end your interrogative sentences with a question mark. Learn, learn. No problem if you make mistakes.
Oh sorry, I thought it was a joke, because I thought you were in your senses. Now I realize your that your brain is literally f***ed up. It turns out you were speaking honestly after all. Sorry for not realizing that you weren't joking.
Oh, I get it. Maybe nobody listens to you at your home, so you spew your crap here.
Sorry for being a little more persistent to cope with an idiot like you. I'm really sorry.
Please learn to differentiate. My reason WASN'T your reason.
I don't doubt my opinion, and nobody does. And that wasn't the point of this, you idiot. You are replying to just a fragment of the sentence which doesn't wrap the whole meaning and context of what I'm saying. And you're concluding what I said based on just a fragment, and replying to that... Just shows how f***ing ignorant you're. And then you say you have better interpretation skills than me. Hahahahahaha. That's the caliber of your comprehension? How pathetic, LMAO!
Well, you know what... F*** YOU!
Oh my God! Look at that big mouth of yours. Comprehension skills better than mine... Someone who concludes things based on a fragment of a sentence has better comprehension than me... LMFAO!
I didn't. Get your eyesight corrected... Oh sorry, get your brain fixed.
I feel sympathy for you. I wish you weren't suffering from a brain malfunction, and I'm so desperate to help you out. Maybe, you could get a treatment. Don't worry about any financial barriers, I'll pay for it. Actually, I'm paying for it right now...
No, I don't. I wish you could understand what I was trying to say. But I hope that at some stage of your life, you'll understand what I meant.
I asked you to explain them from your point of view, so I could see how you perceive things, then point out your comprehension errors. That's what I meant by inputting your inference. But I'm not at all surprised that you couldn't understand what I was trying to say. Seems like that's too much work for your brain.
Here's what you should do:
1. Go to elementary school
2. Ask your teacher to explain you what "strategy" means
It's a waste of time, but I'll try to give you an idea (I know your brain can't keep up, but if you try hard, and pray to God, maybe, just maybe, you'll understand). So, strategy is your complete plan in a battle, how you shape of the battle to your own benefit, how you analyze the situation and adapt to them and counter them with available resources. It's consists of a series of thinking and ideas based on circumstances. It's understanding and molding the entire flow of battle based on your strengths and the enemy's weaknesses. It's not just a random thought suitable only for the moment. It isn't some move you quickly come up with based on that particular moment. Cleverness at certain things and a quick idea is quite different from a strategy.
Strategy is something like you observe in Sasuke's fight against Diedara. He observed Diedara's every move, every hand sign and every jutsu. He understood the nature of everything and countered it properly. He saw that Diedara used Earth Style, and used lightning style to counter it. He tested certain jutsus by understanding their working nature. He clarified the ambiguous part that what was the actual reason of the going off of Diedara's explosives. Was it because of Diedara's deactivation or because of his jutsu. He established his hypothesis from that. He formulated battle plans. He deactivated a land mine through Chidori sword, and took advantage of that to extent his reach to attack Diedara, who was away from his reach. That's killing two birds with one stone. That's what you call a strategy.
Show me at any place in the manga, where Naruto understand the whole nature and working of an entire battle and prepared his attacks based on that. And I'm talking about the whole understanding of the battle, not just a clever move. Even during Pain's fight (the only fight in which he actually used some strategy) doesn't match up to Sasuke's strategy.
In my previous post, I told you to provide your inference. That's how you provide your inference like how I did.
He did use strategies in many battles. But quality-wise, they don't match up to Sasuke's strategy. And quantity-wise, they again don't match up. I'm not saying Naruto never used strategy. But in comparison to Sasuke, Naruto trails in strategy development.
There I have given you a schooling.
That was your answer? It was the most f***ed up bullshit I could expect. Even my d**k was underwhelmed.
You can't. I can. Sorry, but just because your potential is limited doesn't mean mine is as well.
That's what you call proving. Nice! Now I see why the world is in such a f***ing mess. It's because of people like you.
Well, I showed you how it's done (refer to my explanation of "strategy" and the underlined statement). Exhausting? Exhausting for what? You don't have any f***ing answer for anything. What's so exhausting for you?
I can't counter you? Well you can't handle it even when I haven't started. Hmph!
Oh so you understood that idiomatic phrase? Amazing! You really are getting better. I didn't expect you to understand something like that judging by your brain's capacity. But I was pleasantly surprised. Good work. Just a little more hard work, and you'll start seeing things differently i.e. the right way. Go ahead! My prayers are with you.
@bold That's wrong. But no problem. You're still in your learning phase. Things can go wrong. Don't worry. Since your brain is starting to work properly (you understood an idiom, Good God), it will take little time for you to enhance your comprehension skills. But just keep working hard.
Actually, "leagues ahead" means better. Just to let you know. I know you're learning new things, you're still growing up, so you're going to make mistakes. So I'll help you out with things, teach their meanings to you. Next time please use something like "WAYYY behind" to express your intellectual capability.
It does, but not in your case. Because you're an ignorant f***tard.
Refer to my explanation of "strategy" if you want to see me try. LOL. And while you're there, try to understand how to reply to grown-ups. You reply to them by providing reasons, instead of whining to just accept what you've to say.
Oh yeah, thanks for posting your evidences. My d**k has received them, since my brain thought it would be better for something of your brain's caliber to receive your messages. Just for the sake of compatibility. Don't worry. It will do a great job coping up with your brain. It sure can handle that much.
Yes, I won't. Because my idea of explaining things to you is a failure. I'm trying to make you understand your lack of understanding. Of course I'll fail. When you already lack understanding, how'll you understand that you lack understanding?
Yeah, big accomplishment. You managed to outsmart my d**k. Congratulations! My brain is still waiting for something of it's dominant caliber to appear from your side...
Now, don't give a follow up comment because it is really not needed. And if you're really adamant about replying to my post, then give some logic and reasoning, otherwise don't bother. Because I'll only reply to you if you match up to my caliber. Otherwise, I hesitate to take on persistent weaklings like you who are suffering from brain malfunction.
Peace out, dude!