Is Gay Marriage A Civil Right's Issue? Should it be?

[Yubel]

You aren't born straight either.

I Didn't chose to be straight, It's just the way i am.
Animals in nature don't choose to be gay, They just follow their instinct



What a crock of shit



They shouldn't have to change.

Guess I wasn't born straight, we're not born with our sexual orientation because we're not developed sexually, that's just common sense. The same goes for animals, if someone develops a certain way then others should admit that they're wrong and correct it. Homosexuality used to be a mental illness in the 80's but as the gay movement expanded everyone got rid of those studies. It doesn't change reality however, it's wrong to be gay not for religious or ethnic reasons but because it simply is and the sooner we accept that the sooner we can progress more as a species.

 

[Discotex]

If being gay is wrong just because it's supposed to be wrong, would liking something that someone else dislikes be wrong as well? That's what I see from your reply, at least.

 

[FloriGlori]

All I see in his reply is a bigoted pile of shit.

 

[Exaar]

Guess I wasn't born straight, we're not born with our sexual orientation because we're not developed sexually, that's just common sense. The same goes for animals, if someone develops a certain way then others should admit that they're wrong and correct it.

So simply because people view it as out of the norm, We should make people accept their wrong and force others to change?.

That attitude is going to hold us back as a species more than homosexuality will.

it's wrong to be gay not for religious or ethnic reasons but because it simply is and the sooner we accept that the sooner we can progress more as a species.

It's not wrong to be gay in the slightest, Simply because it's not the Norm doesn't make it wrong in anyway shape or form.

Also i fail to see how accepting Homosexuality is holding us back as a species. Humanity have lived with Homosexuality for as long as we've walked the earth, So has many other Species. It's only humans that make it out to be a problem.

 

[Yubel]

If being gay is wrong just because it's supposed to be wrong, would liking something that someone else dislikes be wrong as well? That's what I see from your reply, at least.

This is not a matter of preference, being gay is indicates something is wrong in the same way the sun rising from the west would indicate something is seriously wrong.

 

[Mr Akatsuki]

But is the refusal of gay marriage equivalent to blacks being refused the right to vote?

They're both about discrimination so they're in the same category but based on different aspects. Sexual orientation and racism. Black people probably suffer more since they're judged for who
they are, while (in you question) gay people are 'only' denied the right to get legally married.
(*I know gay people are judged as well but my answer is purely based on your question).

Personally I don't get being gay, I don't understand it but I don't think they're harming anyone,
so they have my support. Marriage with really huge age for example bother me, but not gay marriages.

I also believe that racism will never fade and almost every person is somewhat judgemental.
They endure more than we can imagine but of course the racism-card is played easily.
I try my best to look at everyone the same no matter what their sexual orientation or skin color is.

 

[Discotex]

This is not a matter of preference, being gay is indicates something is wrong in the same way the sun rising from the west would indicate something is seriously wrong.

It totally is a preference. Gays prefer males over females, nothing more nothing less.
Judging from that last one, it has to affect someone to be wrong. I still do not see how gay marriage would affect anyone.

 

[Yubel]

It totally is a preference. Gays prefer males over females, nothing more nothing less.
Judging from that last one, it has to affect someone to be wrong. I still do not see how gay marriage would affect anyone.

So you're saying something can't be wrong unless it has a personal effect on you?
So you don't think murdering someone is wrong because you're not the one being murdered?

Are you unable to make a judgement because it's not something you have ever experienced?

 

[Mr Akatsuki]

So you're saying something can't be wrong unless it has a personal effect on you?
So you don't think murdering someone is wrong because you're not the one being murdered?

Are you unable to make a judgement because it's not something you have ever experienced?

I get your point. It's biologically 'wrong' since it takes a male and female human to reproduce. Though, this is mutual and harmless, murdering someone isn't and harms that person. You're comparing an harmfull action with sexual preference.

 

[Discotex]

So you're saying something can't be wrong unless it has a personal effect on you?
So you don't think murdering someone is wrong because you're not the one being murdered?

Are you unable to make a judgement because it's not something you have ever experienced?

I am not the one saying it. Your opinion makes it look like that. I am not saying it has to affect me solely.
I think murdering is wrong because it ends the life of a human being. You can not compare that to being gay. Being gay never killed anyone. Being gay in front of someone who takes action against someone who is a gay is affecting who, the gay person or the homophobe? Since we are on the topic of murder, I wonder how many gay people died because people made them believe they are unwanted, broken and wrong. We are human beings, we are not flawless.

And you're saying you can judge what is wrong and what isn't?

 

[Callypigia]

Civil unions are legal contracts, they would/should fall under the constitution. Marriage is a religious ordeal. Religions are subjective to whatever they believe at the time.

 

[Strict]

I get your point. It's biologically 'wrong' since it takes a male and female human to reproduce.

You need a male and female to reproduce, not to have ***. Most known species have homosexuals. Saying it is against nature makes no sense, because this is how nature works.

 

[ComplexCity]

Gay marriage will be legal soon, don't see the point in debating over this anymore.

 

[ComplexCity]

You need a male and female to reproduce, not to have ***. Most known species have homosexuals. Saying it is against nature makes no sense, because this is how nature works.

Animals do a lot of "natural" things that would be considered inhumane so I don't see how this holds validity

 

[Strict]

Animals do a lot of "natural" things that would be considered inhumane so I don't see how this holds validity

We evolved from them. We are animals as well. The argument always was that it is against nature, which isn't true. We, as the animals are a part of nature. Especially the difference between us and other mammals aren't huge.

 

[Mr Akatsuki]

You need a male and female to reproduce, not to have ***. Most known species have homosexuals. Saying it is against nature makes no sense, because this is how nature works.

Okay, you've corrected me. Anyway, I'm pro gay marriage I was just trying to look through his eyes (;

 

[Yubel]

So for those that say there are homosexual animals are you saying we should start acting like animals?
Approaching this from a different angle we could say homosexuality is a form of natural selection.

 

[~WastelandSociety~]

They can marry I don't care,but if the church doesn't want to be the ones to do it then they shouldn't be forced too marry them.

Find someone that will.

 

[Conspirator.]

You need a male and female to reproduce, not to have ***. Most known species have homosexuals. Saying it is against nature makes no sense, because this is how nature works.

I have to agree with this.
OT: Yes, they shouldn't be denied the right to marry. Especially since they aren't impacting anyone else negatively.

 

[ComplexCity]

We evolved from them. We are animals as well. The argument always was that it is against nature, which isn't true. We, as the animals are a part of nature. Especially the difference between us and other mammals aren't huge.

Except the fact that we have a more developed conscience and higher intelligence. Once again, the argument that it is in nature so it is valid is bs because if that's the case, we have to look at everything they do being natural for us as well