Republican or Democrat?
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sasukesworld
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It doesn't matter, the orders are coming from Israel.
But I'm against gun laws. Everyone should have one lol.
But I'm against gun laws. Everyone should have one lol.
Ken Kaneki
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I am not from USA. But I like Totsuka, meaning I like weapons. So I would be a theoretical Republican then 
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I don't really identify with either, but if I did, I'd definitely be a democrat/
There's nothing wrong with regulation of what kind of guns you get and who gets them. If just anyone could get any gun, you're gonna have trouble.
sasukesworld
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A lot of people think that, but it's quite the opposite.
If everyone would have a gun, potential thiefs for example, know that.
So if they break into a house they know that the owners could defend themselves.
If someone wants to make a shooting in a store (to rob it or something), they know the possibility is very high that someone has a gun.
Thiefs rob a store because they think they won't get caught, otherwise no one would do it.
So if the owners and other customers could defend themselves, or others, thiefs wouldn't be so dumb and commit the crime.
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I'm torn between free trade and anarcho-communism. On a philosophical and spiritual level Anarchist Communism is the pinnacle of social evolution, where people take care of themselves and others without the aid of a governing body. It works in small communities, typically monasteries, but humanity as a whole is not ready for it. It involves global self actualization, paradoxically understanding that the self is not as important as the community.
When I was younger I supported more leftist parties (i.e., SNP, Green Party), but as I get older I'm disenfranchised from politics. I'm much more moderate now. The extreme left and right disinterest me with their illogical ideologies.
When I was younger I supported more leftist parties (i.e., SNP, Green Party), but as I get older I'm disenfranchised from politics. I'm much more moderate now. The extreme left and right disinterest me with their illogical ideologies.
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You're saying that knowing the owner might have a gun is enough to deter thieves everywhere from robbing stores. Yeah, no. That possibility exists right now, and it still happens. Thieves go into stores and houses knowing the people inside could have weapons. If they're confident to think "I could get caught and get serious jail time, but I most likely won't so here I go" what's stopping this same confidence from applying to getting shot? What's stopping this same confidence from making them think "I could get shot and die, but I most likely won't, so here I go"? There are plenty of stupid thieves already. Not to mention making it easier to get guns creates the possibility that one could get many guns, and use them to rob a store or a house as a group, as opposed to just one person with one gun.
And it's not just thieves. Criminals, thugs and gangmembers would be able to get guns much more easily and freely. Please inform me in what way that would turn out good. There's already a problem with these kinds of people having weapons, what good comes from making this problem even easier to increase?
Guns aren't toys. They aren't something that's cool to have. They're made to take lives. They are not something that should be given out lightly. Background checks, regulation of what kind of guns you can buy, regulation of who gets to buy a gun are important. You want to have a gun? Sure, you have the right to try, but there should be laws that determine whether or not you're eligible to have one and what kind you have.
chopstickchakra
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This argument again....
If a clerk or another customer had a gun and tried to stop an armed robber then you open up the very likely gun fight scenario which puts more lives at risk than if the gun wielding robber comes in and takes what he wants and leaves. Based on everything I've seen with my own eyes, an armed robber usually doesn't fire his gun, it's more so used as a tool for intimidation. I've seen quite a few robberies where the perp never even loaded the gun, they just had it to scare people into putting up no resistance.
Are there situations where civilians in a crowd with a gun can be helpful, sure, but that doesn't equate to everyone carrying guns = more/better protection. It just means we'll live in a time more like the old west(or Florida) where you can shoot first, shoot again, shoot a few more times for luck then ask questions.
OT: Neither the two party system is destroying our country, our community and our democracy. It focuses primarily on dividing us as a people rather than building us up.
sasukesworld
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Not just the owners, the customers could also have a gun.
@bold; The risk to get caught isn't so high, because of that many try it. They try it because they know the owners can't stop them. More stores don't have guns, so they can't do anything.
Why most likely I won't? If they know the owners have a gun, they shouldn't be that stupid. Otherwise it's better so they can't reproduce lol.
They won't think "I could get shot and die, but I most likely won't, so here I go", because the risk is very high, higher than if the owner doesn't have a gun.
It doesn't matter for gang member, etc, they get their guns if they want them.
Thieves are criminals but ok.
The risk of robbery,.., is lower.
Ofc they aren't toys, but do you really think that everyone with a gun would just shoot everyone?
But also to defend them, the point is: Criminals get their guns no matter what, for them it doesn't matter.
They commit crimes because they know they can't get stoped because the other most likely won't have a gun. Which means it's easier for them to commit crimes. But for citizen it's bad because they can't defend themself or others.
In my country are strict gun laws, normal citizens can't have a gun. Just if they're in a shoot club (I have no idea if that's the right word).
sasukesworld
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If everyone could have a gun, no one with an intelligence higher than a stone would rob it.
The thing is, they can't do anything against illegal guns. Criminal's get their guns!
So normal citizens can't defend themselves.
Nope it wouldn't be like the old west.
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chopstickchakra
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Yes it would, believe me I know enough people who talk like you're talking and know how they think. There would be way more shooting before knowing the situations, and mob mentality would make it even worse. People who think they're doing the right thing would end up unnecessarily taking the life of another human like George Zimmerman did, and there's no justification you can present that will convince me Zimmerman was in the right for shooting someone dead he SUSPECTED of being a criminal. Every person doesn't have the responsibility to impartially play judge which is why we appoint and trust others who are more level headed to do it for us.
Perfect scenario: Mother steals a baby from the house and the father finds them at the mall later, when he tries to get his baby back the lady yells and screams he's stealing my baby. Now it's easy to say people would calmly walk up and ask what the situation is but that's not how the people you describe stopping crimes react, they react impulsively.
Let's say they did walk up calm, they're likely to believe the mother(as society does) and would most likely keep this father from getting his child back when they know nothing of the circumstance. The more likely scenario though under your parameters is the dad tries to take his child back, someone with a gun sees it, misinterprets the situation and shoots the man.
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