Kishi: Public Enemy #1

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Then again, I'm sure the people on a forum about Naruto wouldn't be open minded about the decline in the series anyway. Like going to the Tea Party, asking if Obama is a terrible president, then concluding that Obama is a terrible president because of what they said.
 

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Then again, I'm sure the people on a forum about Naruto wouldn't be open minded about the decline in the series anyway. Like going to the Tea Party, asking if Obama is a terrible president, then concluding that Obama is a terrible president because of what they said.
It went downhill a while back. It is basically more shoujo than shonen at this point. I wonder if there will even be anything other than soap opera drama in the mini-series. It isn't looking very promising at this point.
 
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Shouldn't it be mentioned that some of these characters weren't even his ideas to begin with? Kishimoto designed Sakura but the actual character was the idea of his editor. Same with Sasuke, his editor wanted him to make a rival for Naruto. I think this is SOME of the reasons his development of certain charaters and clans were so lacking because they weren't entirely his concepts to begin with.

I can't complain too much tho.

Naruto won over Sasuke's mindset AND proved he can stalemate him without going all out(Unlike Sasuke who went all out AND had a Bijuu chakra boost no matter how much it was)

And NS is dead and scattered to the 4 winds never to return
 

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hahaha Mnaga crarly shows that Naruto was holding back, he never intended to kill Sasuke, Kishi made a rock appear of nowhere just to stop Naruto from finishing the battle soon!
 

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Oh yeah, and my favorite ones are those who are saying they hate Naruto now and don't care anymore, yet they are still reading it + buying the newest videogames and stuff. XD Such hypocrites! XD
 

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It went downhill a while back. It is basically more shoujo than shonen at this point. I wonder if there will even be anything other than soap opera drama in the mini-series. It isn't looking very promising at this point.
It's been 1 chapter so far.

hahaha Mnaga crarly shows that Naruto was holding back, he never intended to kill Sasuke, Kishi made a rock appear of nowhere just to stop Naruto from finishing the battle soon!
Sasuke was restricted.Masashi conveniently had Sasuke lose his sword right before fighting Naruto,and had Sasuke not use multiple techniques against him,like Chibaku Tensei,and Bansho Tenin.

If Naruto was really so superior than why not have Sasuke with his sword,using all his techniques,and show Naruto countering them all? Instead he purposefully made sure Sasuke didn't have his sword and use all his techniques.

Shouldn't it be mentioned that some of these characters weren't even his ideas to begin with? Kishimoto designed Sakura but the actual character was the idea of his editor. Same with Sasuke, his editor wanted him to make a rival for Naruto. I think this is SOME of the reasons his development of certain charaters and clans were so lacking because they weren't entirely his concepts to begin with.

I can't complain too much tho.

Naruto won over Sasuke's mindset AND proved he can stalemate him without going all out(Unlike Sasuke who went all out AND had a Bijuu chakra boost no matter how much it was)

And NS is dead and scattered to the 4 winds never to return

Sasuke was restricted.Masashi conveniently had Sasuke lose his sword right before fighting Naruto,and had Sasuke not use multiple techniques against him,like Chibaku Tensei,and Bansho Tenin.

If Naruto was really so superior than why not have Sasuke with his sword,using all his techniques,and show Naruto countering them all? Instead he purposefully made sure Sasuke didn't have his sword and use all his techniques.

Naruto had chakra from all the Bijuu aswell,the Sage said it twice.




And Sasuke said it twice.





When Sasuke got chakra from the Bijuu,the Kyuubi gathered,and gave all the natural energy aboveground to Naruto since Naruto was too busy fighting Sasuke too gather chakra on his own.Natural energy is mixed with the users physical energy,and spiritual energy to make Senjutsu,so when Sasuke got chakra from the Bijuu Naruto got a big boost of natural energy,and Senjutsu,which powered him up.




Did you forget that? Not notice? Or just decide not to mention it as a way to make Naruto seem better?

Sasuke getting the Bijuus chakra was to add on to his power.It was never said to have been absolutely neccessary.You just assume that cause Sasuke decided to add on to his power,thus increasing his chances of winning,just as Naruto/the Kyuubi added onto their power to increase their chances of winning.
 
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Chapter 700 oozed shoujo..then the Last...shoujo...it keeps getting worse and worse..
I agree about last weeks chapter,but The Last wasn't Masashi's idea,nor did he work on it alot + it was being made while he was working on the manga weekly,unlike the Boruto movie,which he is putting his full effort into.

 

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My main beef with Kishi is how he ran the war arc. I could harp on many things, but I'm quite dissatisfied with him purposely ending it on chapter 700. He put too much importance on it and we likely saw an extra 50 chapters that should never have been just for the sake of hitting that even milestone.

Its downright retarded for an author to manually affect the duration of his manga for such a trivial reason. He should have just focused on the story and let it end when it naturally was going to end. I think this is the main reason the war arc felt so drawn out and lackluster. At some point, he likely realized he drew it out too far and had to rush the ending a bit. That might be why we got a short Kaguya fight (when compared to Obito and Madara's battles) and a very short Naruto vs. Sasuke.
 

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I agree about last weeks chapter,but The Last wasn't Masashi's idea,nor did he work on it alot + it was being made while he was working on the manga weekly,unlike the Boruto movie,which he is putting his full effort into.

Good point. And that is great news. I actually have hope for the Boruto movie. If it's about the Chunin exams and they can avoid the shipping side (Kishi never liked that side of things, so I have hope), then it can truly be great.
 

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My main beef with Kishi is how he ran the war arc. I could harp on many things, but I'm quite dissatisfied with him purposely ending it on chapter 700. He put too much importance on it and we likely saw an extra 50 chapters that should never have been just for the sake of hitting that even milestone.

Its downright retarded for an author to manually affect the duration of his manga for such a trivial reason. He should have just focused on the story and let it end when it naturally was going to end. I think this is the main reason the war arc felt so drawn out and lackluster. At some point, he likely realized he drew it out too far and had to rush the ending a bit. That might be why we got a short Kaguya fight (when compared to Obito and Madara's battles) and a very short Naruto vs. Sasuke.
My complaints for the Kaguya fight wouldn't be length but rather the underwhelming nature of Kaguya's abilities compared to what Obito and Madara were throwing at them. And the Naruto and Sasuke fight should have been longer, but at the same time I don't see how it could have, because they were just so swollen with God power at that point how he did it seems like the most logical route. Also the war HAD been drawn out too long, so making the last fights more brief and fast paced was the most natural and logical choice.
 
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Sasuke was restricted.Masashi conveniently had Sasuke lose his sword right before fighting Naruto,and had Sasuke not use multiple techniques against him,like Chibaku Tensei,and Bansho Tenin.
Not sure how a sword would have been that much of difference maker considering he had chidori. And yang nine tails broke out of CT when Naruto fought Pain. The only difference in the two situations is kurama was under a genjustu and not inside Naruto when sasuke used it. So even if CT was used, it wouldn't have been a guaranteed win.

If Naruto was really so superior than why not have Sasuke with his sword,using all his techniques,and show Naruto countering them all? Instead he purposefully made sure Sasuke didn't have his sword and use all his techniques.
Dunno what your obsession with the sword is honestly. Sasuke could have made a sword by manipulating the shape of either chidori or enton. The sword is not a huge factor. Why Naruto need to counter sword techs anyway? Amaterasu did jack against the kyubi clock, and Naruto is slighty faster than Sasuke when Sasuke not using S/T jutsu so there's nothing to say his sword play would have been that effective if he had superior skills anyway.

Naruto had chakra from all the Bijuu aswell,the Sage said it twice.




And Sasuke said it twice.





When Sasuke got chakra from the Bijuu,the Kyuubi gathered,and gave all the natural energy aboveground to Naruto since Naruto was too busy fighting Sasuke too gather chakra on his own.Natural energy is mixed with the users physical energy,and spiritual energy to make Senjutsu,so when Sasuke got chakra from the Bijuu Naruto got a big boost of natural energy,and Senjutsu,which powered him up.




Did you forget that? Not notice? Or just decide not to mention it as a way to make Naruto seem better?

Sasuke getting the Bijuus chakra was to add on to his power.It was never said to have been absolutely neccessary.You just assume that cause Sasuke decided to add on to his power,thus increasing his chances of winning,just as Naruto/the Kyuubi added onto their power to increase their chances of winning.
Lol! If it wasn't absolutely necessary, why do it? TO INCREASE HIS CHANCE OF WINNING. Sasuke knew full well he couldn't defeat Naruto with just his basic abilities. It's not a coincidence he wanted to fight Naruto after the Kaguya battle knowing full well Naruto did most of the actual fighting and thereby using up most of his chakra. The only reason Kurama gathered all that energy during the fight was because of Sasuke using the Bijuu to greatly enhance his own Rikodou powers. And if you wanna talk about techs not being used, why didn't naruto use any of his rasengan variants like lava or wind? Why didn't he use his super strength when fighting or any other abilities RSM gave him? If Kishi nerfed Sasuke like u said, then he REALLY nerfed Naruto.



Sasuke's not stupid when it comes to battle, he wanted to kill Naruto, and would use any means to do it! But the thing is, he couldn't! Not because of some handicap or him not really wanting to, but because Naruto countered everything Sasuke threw at him to the point where after Sasuke got smashed through a wall, he actual asked Naruto if he would just die for him. I'm not bashing Sasuke or his skills, but all this onesided handicap stuff is BS
 
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I don't agree with Naruto's mentality and Kishi treats his main heroine like garbage. The ending was rushed and I dislike how 700 was dedicated to pairings instead of Nardo actually becoming hokage :|

I have read better manga
Because there I really no reason why Naruto should be hokage, he is more of a charismatic war hero? Kakashi stepping down it sort of weird, Naruto lacks the wisdom and heart to be hokage.
 

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Kishi gives no hoots about what some lame ass critics/haters/wanna be authors say to him, all their tears are being lick by Kishi. Plus Naruto has the biggest hypocrites of fans I've ever seen, so don't let it bother you. *sip*
He gave a damn about CodeProvider in one of his interviews.
 
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