Naruto is a genius

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I didn't say Sasuke was stronger, I said he was better.. Itachi maybe have more skills at Genjutsu but he still can't win a Genjutsu battle against Sasuke.

Itachi was smarter. He knew how fight will end after first punches. He was master-mind.
While Sasuke was running wild and did't think straight in fights for example (vs Bee vs Kage's vs Itachi vs Madara)

I can't compare Speed and Stamina tho.
 

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The effect is the same because the opponent is damaged in the same way as he would by a one-handed version. It's the same effect via another way. Shadow clones are means to get to that desired effect. Evidently, that didn't really diminish Rasengan's performance.

It's like saying naruto mastered frs when he still couldn't throw it.
 

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Itachi is a genuis that nearly no one could compare to.No wonder he is comparing Sasuke too Itachi so much,because Sasuke is also a genuis who nearly no one else compares too.

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Itachi was smarter. He knew how fight will end after first punches. He was master-mind.
While Sasuke was running wild and did't think straight in fights for example (vs Bee vs Kage's vs Itachi vs Madara)

I can't compare Speed and Stamina tho.
Itachi was smarter during Sasuke rampage of hate and vengeance.. The calm peaceful Sasuke is just as smart.
 

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It's like saying naruto mastered frs when he still couldn't throw it.

He mastered it because he succeeded in its creation. Throwing it is another variant of it, a proggressive perfecting it.
 

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No he is an idiot. He jumped into Haku's ice prison with no plan and got trapped.
 

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He mastered it because he succeeded in its creation. Throwing it is another variant of it, a proggressive perfecting it.

Using a jutsu that would cause you to lose your arm isn't mastering.
 

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He mastered it because he succeeded in its creation. Throwing it is another variant of it, a proggressive perfecting it.

I guess 9 year old Sasuke had mastered the Fireball Jutsu just as well as 17 year old Sasuke then.

Sasuke also mastered chidori the first time he used it i guess.

Naruto mastered the summoning jutsu by summoning a tadpole, because there's no fundamental difference between the tadpole summoning and Gamabunta summoning jutsus.
 

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Using a jutsu that would cause you to lose your arm isn't mastering.

He mastered the technique but he needed the body to sustain it. Which was SM.

I guess 9 year old Sasuke had mastered the Fireball Jutsu just as well as 17 year old Sasuke then.

There's a certain level of something that you master. You later improve it. Pretty simple.
 

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He mastered the technique but he needed the body to sustain it. Which was SM.



There's a certain level of something that you master. You later improve it. Pretty simple.

Then every skill any person of any level has ever done is mastered. Which is a retarded way of thinking.

I must be a master typist for being able to type the word cat.
 

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Then every skill any person of any level has ever done is mastered. Which is a retarded way of thinking.

Actually, with your way of thinking, a Rasengan is never mastered because it's an incomplete technique. That's what's retarded.
 

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Actually, with your way of thinking, a Rasengan is never mastered because it's an incomplete technique. That's what's retarded.

So Naruto didn't master it, because that's fundamentally impossible, right? :rolleyes:
 

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Itachi was smarter during Sasuke rampage of hate and vengeance.. The calm peaceful Sasuke is just as smart.

And how many fight we had where he is not on rampage ?
Vs Deidara ? This was bad call 1 vs 2.
Vs Danzo ? He was superior thats all.
Vs Kabuto ? He wasn't doing anything.
 

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I guess 9 year old Sasuke had mastered the Fireball Jutsu just as well as 17 year old Sasuke then.

Did you see how big 9 year old Sasuke's fireball was? It never got any bigger, and Sasuke never fully mastered his fire chakra nature, maybe he wasn't talented enough to master it? Obito and Madara on the other hand could spew out oceans of flame, While Sasuke had the same fireball the whole show.
 

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I see you're losing your cool because of the sarcasm.

Lol I learned years ago that debating with an idiot is pointless. My definition of mastery is near universally accepted, save for you, and probably a 9 year old somewhere trying to convince his parents that he doesn't have to do his math homework anymore.

If you want to live in ignorance, that won't affect me in the slightest. Don't bother trying to respond. I have class to attend, and honestly, I don't want to read your cancer response anyway.
 

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Inventing something is different from learnig something that already existing. Naruto is no where near genius, not even much of a hardworker. Every jutsu he uses are consuming huge amount of chakra. Even mastering his ultimate jutsu, he spent massive amount of time. An idiot who couldn't figured out KB Memory Feed Back isn't a genius in my book.
 

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Lol I learned years ago that debating with an idiot is pointless. My definition of mastery is near universally accepted, save for you, and probably a 9 year old somewhere trying to convince his parents that he doesn't have to do his math homework anymore.

If you want to live in ignorance, that won't affect me in the slightest.

Pretty ironic coming from a guy who likes to preach common sense to other users without actually having one. I could say the same to you but what good would that do? I already finished the debate once because of which you negged me and then you came back for more. I guess you'll come again because you just love it. Lol
 

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Inventing something is different from learnig something that already existing. Naruto is no where near genius, not even much of a hardworker. Every jutsu he uses are consuming huge amount of chakra. Even mastering his ultimate jutsu, he spent massive amount of time. An idiot who couldn't figured out KB Memory Feed Back isn't a genius in my book.

Yes you are right, and Sasuke is same as Naruto.
 

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And how many fight we had where he is not on rampage ?
Vs Deidara ? This was bad call 1 vs 2.
Vs Danzo ? He was superior thats all.
Vs Kabuto ? He wasn't doing anything.

I don't get your point?? Itachi was more experience, he grew up in the times of war which made him more knowledgeable. That doesn't mean he was smarter.
 
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