Naruto is a genius

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Sasuke trained too but he was a natural genius, compare Hebi Sasuke and Naruto (Early Shippduen).

It took Naruto two-three arcs just to catch up to Hebi Sasuke alone Lol
 

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Okay they were but. but they call him because he was strong in his age.


Why Sasuke was strong?

He had uchiha brain. Which are common thing in Uchihas.

And all rest was luck.
Orochimaru take him under his wing and teach him. Because he was one of the last Uchihas.
MS- Because he was Itachi brother.
EMS- Because he was Itachi brother.
Rinnegan- because he was chosen one.

Skills like Sasukes is common in Uchihas. But he won a lottery ticket.

Sasuke isn't a genius because he's Uchiha, he's a genius because he stands out amongst being a Uchiha. His skills, stamina, speed, jutsu, and intelligence are all above normal uchihas.
 

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And you conveniently side-step the fact that after a single day of having his MS, Sasuke had already surpassed Itachi's skill at using Amaterasu, and mastered ~75% of the Rinnegan's potential, even surpassing what had been known in some cases, in a matter of hours.

And in Genjutsu ? Even now Itachi > Sasuke.
 

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And in Genjutsu ? Even now Itachi > Sasuke.

Sasuke rarely uses genjutsu, yet he used eye-contact-less genjutsu on multiple occasions, and trapped 9 bijuu in an instant without prior training or use.

Itachi is also better with Suiton jutsus. Does that diminish Sasuke's genius too?

Nitpicking single skills in which a single character outshines him is not going to disprove the manga facts. Sorry.
 
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I guess nobody hear knows the actual definition of genius
 

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Sasuke rarely uses genjutsu, yet he used eye-contact-less genjutsu on multiple occasions, and trapped 9 bijuu in an instant without prior training or use.

You know Sharingan powers is not skill wise ? Its emotion wise. Stronger emotions you have = stronger visual powers you have.

So compare base skills. Speed, stamina, intellect.
And under 16 years. Itachi >>>>> Sasuke in everything.
 

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Almost everything you mentioned was because of extensive shadow clone training. That training compounded months or even years of training into a few hours or days.

Exactly. Learning how to use an element takes years to do,Naruto cut down that time by using 1000 clones at 16.Sasuke learned how to do his 2nd nature element at 13 in days.

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So in a way It took Naruto years of training to learn his element,and "catch up to Sasuke",and even then he still didn't catch up til he got Sage Mode

Sasuke isn't a genius because he's Uchiha, he's a genius because he stands out amongst being a Uchiha. His skills, stamina, speed, jutsu, and intelligence are all above normal uchihas.

Very well said.That was beautiful.
 
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Exactly. Learning how to use an element takes years to do,Naruto cut down that time by using 1000 clones at 16.Sasuke learned how to do his 2nd nature element at 13 in days.

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So in a way It took Naruto years of training to learn his element,and "catch up to Sasuke",and even then he still didn't catch up til he got Sage Mode
Exactly. Naruto was behind Sasuke for at least half of Shippuden until the Pain Arc finished. I don't understand how people can call Naruto a genius when compared to Sasuke.
 

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You know Sharingan powers is not skill wise ? Its emotion wise. Stronger emotions you have = stronger visual powers you have.

So compare base skills. Speed, stamina, intellect.
And under 16 years. Itachi >>>>> Sasuke in everything.

So Itachi being a genius means that Sasuke is not a genius. That's new.

Not to mention that Sasuke surpassed Itachi in every way when comparing their ages relatively.
 

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So Itachi being a genius means that Sasuke is not a genius. That's new.

That's not what i'm trying to say. Sasuke was hard worker same as naruto.
And yes he was smart and etc but not a genius.

Genius is top tier and they wasn't in it compared to true genius.
 

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That's not what i'm trying to say. Sasuke was hard worker same as naruto.
And yes he was smart and etc but not a genius.

Your reasoning just fell apart. So basically at this point you're saying Sasuke is not a genius because you say so.
 

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Exactly. Learning how to use an element takes years to do,Naruto cut down that time by using 1000 clones at 16.Sasuke learned how to do his 2nd nature element at 13 in days.

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So in a way It took Naruto years of training to learn his element,and "catch up to Sasuke",and even then he still didn't catch up til he got Sage Mode



Very well said.That was beautiful.

So, if nobody taught Naruto his elemental affinity in young age it makes him less genius than he is ? I don't think so.
 

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Exactly. Naruto was behind Sasuke for at least half of Shippuden until the Pain Arc finished. I don't understand how people can call Naruto a genius when compared to Sasuke.

I'd say Naruto is a genuis of hardwork,and perhaps creativity (Many Rasengan Variants).Naruto's best learning feat was learning/mastering Shadow Clone Jutsu in hours,second would be learning/mastering the Rasengan in a month.
 

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Knowing and being labeled as a Genius from birth is much easier than not knowing your worth. That's the difference between Naruto and Itachi/Sasuke/Neji/other Geniuses.
 

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Your reasoning just fell apart. So basically at this point you're saying Sasuke is not a genius because you say so.

So you wanna say Itachi was Genius and Sasuke was Genius too but less ???

That is stupid.
 

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So, if nobody taught Naruto his elemental affinity in young age it makes him less genius than he is ? I don't think so.

Sasuke learned his katon by himself - Naruto learned no elements by himself

Sasuke learned his second element with a tutor in a month - Naruto learned his first element with a tutor in 100 days compounded into 24 hours

So you wanna say Itachi was Genius and Sasuke was Genius too but less ???

That is stupid.

Nope. Itachi and Sasuke were both geniuses, only Itachi was born 5 years earlier, and was cut down early by disease.
 
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