Do you think naruto base as strong as hashirama now?

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Nope. Base Hashirama > base Naruto because Mokuton too OP.
 

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First things first. Hashirama didn't need mito to fight kyuubi. He just used her to store him.

Secondly, hashirama literally caught a bijuu dama with one of his wood techniques and reversed it on kurama like it were a rasengan.

Thirdly, when i meantioned his special techniques. I meant techniques like wood dragon which absorb bijuu chakra and other bijuu restraining attacks. Hashirama is basically a bijuu/ jinchuuriki specialist. Naruto would be stupid not to fight at his best.
If i were naruto, id try to use less kyuubi chakra and more sage since hashirama knows how to deal with it. But then hashirama also has sage mode.
Does anybody even remember hashirama restraining the ten tails? I know naruto is very powerful but he is not a juubi jin. unless he is in RM or even RSM, any serious restraint hashirama places on him would render him helpless.
 

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First things first. Hashirama didn't need mito to fight kyuubi. He just used her to store him.
Okay probably had my info wrong here.

Secondly, hashirama literally caught a bijuu dama with one of his wood techniques and reversed it on kurama like it were a rasengan.
Again, like I said the Nine Tails Kurama when being controlled can't make full use of TBB, He can't use his full power, when He himself is in control he is much stronger especially while working with Naruto.
did you forget that 1 that the kyuubi shot Hashirama was a top of mokujin and after the explosion and unveiling of PS you see all the blown up branches along with

Thirdly, when i meantioned his special techniques. I meant techniques like wood dragon which absorb bijuu chakra and other bijuu restraining attacks. Hashirama is basically a bijuu/ jinchuuriki specialist. Naruto would be stupid not to fight at his best.
If i were naruto, id try to use less kyuubi chakra and more sage since hashirama knows how to deal with it. But then hashirama also has sage mode.
Does anybody even remember hashirama restraining the ten tails? I know naruto is very powerful but he is not a juubi jin. unless he is in RM or even RSM, any serious restraint hashirama places on him would render him helpless.

. BM Naruto already canoncially escaped it by retracting the cloak, a bijuu dama destroys them anyways like kyuubi did at VOTE.

Gate of the great gods subdued the Juubi that wasn't even moving. Like I said him touching BM Hokage Naruto is laughable. Especially with BM clones or lesser clones hammering him with Chou odama FRS and the likes.

Wood clones are useless too.
 
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Okay probably had my info wrong here.

Again, like I said the Nine Tails Kurama when being controlled can't make full use of TBB, He can't use his full power, when He himself is in control he is much stronger especially while working with Naruto.
did you forget that 1 that the kyuubi shot Hashirama was a top of mokujin and after the explosion and unveiling of PS you see all the blown up branches along with



. BM Naruto already canoncially escaped it by retracting the cloak, a bijuu dama destroys them anyways like kyuubi did at VOTE.

Gate of the great gods subdued the Juubi that wasn't even moving. Like I said him touching BM Hokage Naruto is laughable. Especially with BM clones or lesser clones hammering him with Chou odama FRS and the likes.

Wood clones are useless too.

Wood clones arn't useless. Madara said he was the only one to be able to sense when hashirama did it. I'm guessing naruto could sense it too. But he'd have to be in sage mode. So that restricts him to a mode with sage chakra.
Where did bijuudama destroy the golem statue?it didn't. It was a swing of the sword of kurama in PS armor that destoryed the golem as well as sliced the top of several mountains. Also hashirama has that 1000 hand thing which easily dwarfs kurama. Hell. That thing tanked kurama+PS and a barrage of bijuu damas.
You guys say BM mode Naruto could beat hashirama. BSM naruto was the guy who faced juubito. The guy who along with 8 other bijuu, Faced and got owned by blind madara. Keep in mind that hashirama used gate of great gods on madara too. And madara broke out of it. So lets say we need someome of equal power to that madara to face hashirama. That isn't BSM naruto. Now. Agreed that was half kurama now he has full kurama. So maybe double his power. And you think that guy could beat hashirama?

I know in an all out battle naruto would win. But BSM naruto? Come on.
 

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Wood clones arn't useless. Madara said he was the only one to be able to sense when hashirama did it. I'm guessing naruto could sense it too. But he'd have to be in sage mode. So that restricts him to a mode with sage chakra.
Where did bijuudama destroy the golem statue?it didn't. It was a swing of the sword of kurama in PS armor that destoryed the golem as well as sliced the top of several mountains. Also hashirama has that 1000 hand thing which easily dwarfs kurama. Hell. That thing tanked kurama+PS and a barrage of bijuu damas.
You guys say BM mode Naruto could beat hashirama. BSM naruto was the guy who faced juubito. The guy who along with 8 other bijuu, Faced and got owned by blind madara. Keep in mind that hashirama used gate of great gods on madara too. And madara broke out of it. So lets say we need someome of equal power to that madara to face hashirama. That isn't BSM naruto. Now. Agreed that was half kurama now he has full kurama. So maybe double his power. And you think that guy could beat hashirama?

I know in an all out battle naruto would win. But BSM naruto? Come on.

Oh just stop. Chaos proved BM Hokage Naruto would low diff Hashi. Stop being arrogant.
 

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Wood clones arn't useless. Madara said he was the only one to be able to sense when hashirama did it. I'm guessing naruto could sense it too. But he'd have to be in sage mode. So that restricts him to a mode with sage chakra.
Where did bijuudama destroy the golem statue?it didn't. It was a swing of the sword of kurama in PS armor that destoryed the golem as well as sliced the top of several mountains. Also hashirama has that 1000 hand thing which easily dwarfs kurama. Hell. That thing tanked kurama+PS and a barrage of bijuu damas.
You guys say BM mode Naruto could beat hashirama. BSM naruto was the guy who faced juubito. The guy who along with 8 other bijuu, Faced and got owned by blind madara. Keep in mind that hashirama used gate of great gods on madara too. And madara broke out of it. So lets say we need someome of equal power to that madara to face hashirama. That isn't BSM naruto. Now. Agreed that was half kurama now he has full kurama. So maybe double his power. And you think that guy could beat hashirama?

I know in an all out battle naruto would win. But BSM naruto? Come on.

BSM Naruto was already on Hashirama's level at 16, now he's in his late 20's, do the math
 
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Wood clones arn't useless. Madara said he was the only one to be able to sense when hashirama did it. I'm guessing naruto could sense it too. But he'd have to be in sage mode. So that restricts him to a mode with sage chakra.
Where did bijuudama destroy the golem statue?it didn't. It was a swing of the sword of kurama in PS armor that destoryed the golem as well as sliced the top of several mountains. Also hashirama has that 1000 hand thing which easily dwarfs kurama. Hell. That thing tanked kurama+PS and a barrage of bijuu damas.
You guys say BM mode Naruto could beat hashirama. BSM naruto was the guy who faced juubito. The guy who along with 8 other bijuu, Faced and got owned by blind madara. Keep in mind that hashirama used gate of great gods on madara too. And madara broke out of it. So lets say we need someome of equal power to that madara to face hashirama. That isn't BSM naruto. Now. Agreed that was half kurama now he has full kurama. So maybe double his power. And you think that guy could beat hashirama?

I know in an all out battle naruto would win. But BSM naruto? Come on.

Let me address the stupidity in this post, cause you have poor comprehension.

Why even bring up Juubito, when Hashi badically said he would get negged if he where to go over their. Beaten. While Naruto was their fighting.

You bring up rinnegan (not blind) Madara beating BM Naruto as if that's really a feat. He could have done that to anyone, as he used limbo. You know, the thing that can't be seen or sensed without SO6P powers.

BM Naruto is enough to take Hashirama.
 

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I'm pretty sure naruto in the last was in RM. He just looked different.
Retsu no sho confirmed Naruto was using KCM, even then it was a mix of KCSM/BSM when he fought Toneri. By the time Naruto & Sasuke got the sage power ups, the production of the movie was already almost complete.
From Retsu no sho
"Kurama Chakra Mode

Borrowing an enormous amount of Chakra from Kurama, who has been sealed in his body, Naruto exhibits overwhelming power. By simultaneously activating Sage Mode, his sensory capabilities and the strength of his Ninjutsu are significantly increased...!!

←↓ With the Four Symbols Seal lifted, his Chakra flows out like flames!"

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Wood clones arn't useless. Madara said he was the only one to be able to sense when hashirama did it. I'm guessing naruto could sense it too. But he'd have to be in sage mode. So that restricts him to a mode with sage chakra.
What is this Garbage xD
Naruto doesn't need to sense wood clones da ****.
He can see them with his eyes Wood clones aren't limbo. Madara said He could tell when he was facing a clone. not that he could sense it :|

Like I said before Wood clones are completely useless because they're weaker than the original. And if Hashirama is getting low diffed, what's an inferior clone gonna do?


Where did bijuudama destroy the golem statue?it didn't. It was a swing of the sword of kurama in PS armor that destoryed the golem as well as sliced the top of several mountains.
No ,Take note how Mokujin isn't even in that scan. Why? Because it was obliterated

Also hashirama has that 1000 hand thing which easily dwarfs kurama. Hell. That thing tanked kurama+PS and a barrage of bijuu damas. It punched Bijuu dama PS swords
But lets not forget that PS's DC, is inferior to the Kyuubi, power wise as well. A charged TBB from BM Naruto & Kurama would Vaporize shinsusenju, especially since How would shinsusenju touch BM Naruto with Full Kurama anyways? He can fly now you know.

You guys say BM mode Naruto could beat hashirama. BSM naruto was the guy who faced juubito. The guy who along with 8 other bijuu, Faced and got owned by blind madara.
That was BM Naruto, who didn't even Fight back. He just tried to exit Bijuu mode but couldn't, (Gedo Mazou too stronk) besides Madara used his haxxed Rinnegan technique Limbo which no one had a counter for yet.

Keep in mind that hashirama used gate of great gods on madara too. And madara broke out of it.
speed wise BSM Naruto > BM Naruto> KCM Naruto> Madara> SM Naruto.

So lets say we need someome of equal power to that madara to face hashirama. That isn't BSM naruto.
Lol, Madara was just waiting for Obito too be taken care of so he could get his show on the road.

Now. Agreed that was half kurama now he has full kurama. So maybe double his power. And you think that guy could beat hashirama?
Obviously

I know in an all out battle naruto would win. But BSM naruto? Come on.
:lmao: Hokage Naruto with 100% Kurama using BSM would Neg Hashirama. Lmao dude Lol.
 
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Retsu no sho confirmed Naruto was using KCM, even then it was a mix of KCSM/BSM when he fought Toneri. By the time Naruto & Sasuke got the sage power ups, the production of the movie was already almost complete.
From Retsu no sho
"Kurama Chakra Mode

Naruto had bandages on his hand. So explain how they knew if the movie was almost complete?
 

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Naruto had bandages on his hand. So explain how they knew if the movie was almost complete?

Because that's much quicker and easier edit than a glowing, constantly moving fire like chakra cloak :|
Same as Sasukes Rinnegan which was only shown for a couple of seconds.
 

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I believe he is only stronger when he is acid.
 

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This is how strong Naruto was when he fought Madara.

Naruto with all Bijuu inside him
Hashirama
Madara with Kyuubi
Madara with Eternal Mangekyo Sharingan
Bijuu mode Naruto
Kyuubi Chakra mode Naruto
Sage mode Naruto
Naruto

He probably got stronger after that. He is probably stronger in Naruto the Last. And he is probably even stronger when he becomes Hokage.
 

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Are you asking if base naruto can take on base hashirama or sm hashirama? He's gonna need bsm to beat him either way.
 
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