MS Obito vs Sannin trio

[Amaterasu]

Jman is crap at genjutsu by his own admission. His frogs might be good but he is not. Summoning the frogs let alone getting them to resonate the song is two levels of prep he won't have time for

Don't forgot, Oro and Tsunade are there too, he has the time thanks to them.

and by simply distorting space time via kamui he'd automatically distort the sound since it travels through a medium he's actively changing. Oro has no reputable genjutsu feats bar getting lol'd on by Sasuke and itachi. So he's gonna hold the L to obito's genjutsu as well.

Oro won't be taken in a basic genjutsu like Finger or Eye Genjutsu tho'. Plus he got experience of it.
Katsuyu would use her acid, Oro would use Manda or/+ his thousand snkaes and Jiraiya would use Bunta +/or Chou Oodama Rasengan. i can't see how Obito would beat the three of them honestly

 

[BenjerminGaye]

Don't forgot, Oro and Tsunade are there too, he has the time thanks to them.

if he's sitting there with his hands clapped then the fight is essentially 2 v 1.

Oro won't be taken in a basic genjutsu like Finger or Eye Genjutsu tho'. Plus he got experience of it.

why not. He fell for it twice. I could understand if he wised up the first time but the kid brother played the same trick and it still worked. So I don't see why obito the man who was trained by the greatest uchiha to ever live, the only one with the feat of keeping ppl in genjutsu while their in a different dimension, the one who not only controlled kurama, but controlled a perfect jin as well can't put little ol oro in a genjutsu.

Katsuyu would use her acid, Oro would use Manda

They get trapped by flame barrier or genjutsu'd and used against their summoners, yes obito can control multiple at once he did it to 5 tailed beasts.

or/+ his thousand snkaes

burned to a crisp via kamui katon.

and Jiraiya would use Bunta +/or Chou Oodama Rasengan.

when did obito give that man time to go sage mode? Like seriously... by the time he does that at least one of the other sanin are dead, or genjutsu'd in kamuiland.

i can't see how Obito would beat the three of them honestly

obito held his own against two perfect jins and the greatest jounin in the leaf village, all while protecting the mazo. This is cakewalk.

 

[Amaterasu]

if he's sitting there with his hands clapped then the fight is essentially 2 v 1.

Yes ?

why not. He fell for it twice. I could understand if he wised up the first time but the kid brother played the same trick and it still worked. So I don't see why obito the man who was trained by the greatest uchiha to ever live, the only one with the feat of keeping ppl in genjutsu while their in a different dimension, the one who not only controlled kurama, but controlled a perfect jin as well can't put little ol oro in a genjutsu.

Nothing much to say, as I said above Jins are generally bad at Genjutsu, question is why did the Bijuu did not wake the Mizukage up ? Plot ? idk.

Could changed my mind to Obito tho'

 

[BenjerminGaye]

Yes ?

so is it easier to believe obito can handle the 2 v 1 than the 3 v 1? Cuz most of your argument stems from sm jman.

Nothing much to say, as I said above Jins are generally bad at Genjutsu, question is why did the Bijuu did not wake the Mizukage up ? Plot ? idk.

Could changed my mind to Obito tho'

I don't know why isobu did wake him up, Maybe obito is that good. Either way his other genjutsu feats more than make up for it if you want to dismiss it. It still stands that oro is susceptible to genjutsu given his track record, and what else should be taken into account is the ridiculous measures kabuto had to go to just not to fall for it(which oro dosen't have). All and all it goes to show how much of a threat sharingan genjutsu is.

A close up fight with him is suicide. Oro and Tsunade buying time for jman leaves one of them dead and ultimately in the same situation as before, and ninjutsu for the most part gets out muscled. Leaving you with 1 genjutsu that most likely won't happen or won't work, not to mention successfully getting it off dosen't stop obito from casting kamui, leaving him intangible for how as long as necessary till it stops. I doubt the frogs can sing for 5 min straight.

Any more bases you want me to cover? I think I made multiple compelling arguments as to how Obito prevents or gets around frog song.

 

[LuckyMan]

Obito loses. Him beating the 3 Sannin is laughable. Might counter these walls of crap later.

 

[Draphsin]

Obito loses. Him beating the 3 Sannin is laughable. Might counter these walls of crap later.

Lol You mean just like you countered

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I'll be interested to see how you think these guys can bypass kamui.

 

[KingHashirama]

Sanin low-diff.

 

[Ambivalence]

Obito high-diffs. I'm betting if someone made a thread two years ago titled: ''Tobi vs KCM Naruto, War Arc MS Kakashi and Base Guy'', we'd all laugh, but it's a manga fact he only started losing because of Kakashi's perfect counter for his Kamui, because they went in the battle with intel on him, and all of this without Obito even using Mokuton/genjutsu. I think I'm even being generous on the ''high difficulty'' part, but either way he doesn't lose.

 

[Scryed]

I'll go with Obito Mid/High difficulty
It depends on whether the Sannin use their summons and no, using their summons wouldn't make it high dif for him. IMO it would drop the difficulty to Mid dif since he'd take control of thek and use them against the Sannin.

Kamui isn't all that he has anyways.

 

[LuckyMan]

Lol You mean just like you countered

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I'll be interested to see how you think these guys can bypass kamui.

I ignored getting into a lengthy debate with Obitos biggest fapboy after he said some bullshit that the sannin in a manji formation can't touch Obito. I hope you realize now how much bullshit that is. I'll counter the post you made in this thread though, not that its going to change your mind anyway though so at the end of the day its pointless to debate with you and I probably won't even reply to you after this (you're a little too biased) so don't expect a reply from me.

Well first & foremost the sannin don't have any significant reaction feats to stop a kamui warp.

They don't need to stop the warp. My argument in the old thread and in a similar one I had with Benjamin dude was never about them escaping the Kamui warp. They fight in the manji formation. That bullshit belief that the Sannin literally cant' touch Obito if he tries to warp one when they are

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should open your eyes on a bit on how much bullshit you spew out about him because hes your favorite. When he goes for one the other deals a killing blow which will inevitably make him use Izanagi to survive or not warp at all.



If his speed was even close to the BS you spew about it he should have warped Fuu neg difficulty without no reaction whatsoever from him regardless of sensory when he came behind him but oh wait.......

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Even after he grabbed Fuu and was about to warp him,

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. Yes, that Is Torune from a distance throwing a Kunai at him fast enough before he can warp Fuu.

Now he did warp Torune with no reaction and you might say Fuu only reacted because hes a sensor and felt him coming but Jiraiyas Canopy Barrier can act just like that, detecting anything physical in his vicinity in a huge radius, follows him wherever he goes, way bigger than a boss summon, covered the entire room, and was still expanding up the walls in the air and was about to reach Pain before he attacked.--->

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So, you can forget about Obito sneaking up on them and warping them with no reaction because his location will always be known and if a fodder like Fuu can react at point blank range and another fodder like Torune can nail him with a kunai before he starts his warp from a distance don't ever spew that BS again about him being untouchable because the manga clearly showed had he warped Fuu, Torunes Kunai would nail his face (not that it would have breached the mask but he would have been hit, which is the point) and this is the Sannin were're talking about, all with superior reflexes and speeds than those two.

If your next post is some bullshit to justify none of them hitting him at point blank range when he tries to warp one then I certainly won't reply at all. Who knows, maybe he does stand a chance but not the way your argument was made so I suggest you take a different route than "Hurr durr he sneaks up and warps/genjutsu" "Hurr no one can do anything".

 

[Xlad]

Obito wins.

 

[Conspirator.]

Obito should win it.

 

[Red Slayer]

Obito doesnt even stand 0,00000000001 chance to win... who says otherwise is STUPID

 

[BenjerminGaye]

Obito doesnt even stand 0,00000000001 chance to win... who says otherwise is STUPID

Holds own against two perfect jins an 8 gates master and Kakashi.
Says he can't handle himself against sannin.

 

[Red Slayer]

Holds own against two perfect jins an 8 gates master and Kakashi.
Says he can't handle himself against sannin.

hahaha gosh most imp thing they had no intel.... and still Kakashi had pretty good to kill Obito... when he was in his Kamuiland and just hit him change Kakashi and put there Oro))))))))) u will see Obito's Uchiha Blood everywhere and Orochimaru's smiling face )))

 

[BenjerminGaye]

hahaha gosh most imp thing they had no intel.... and still Kakashi had pretty good to kill Obito... when he was in his Kamuiland and just hit him change Kakashi and put there Oro))))))))) u will see Obito's Uchiha Blood everywhere and Orochimaru's smiling face )))

What you talking bout son? They most Def had intel. That's was the 3rd time kakashi ran into obito(same goes for Naruto), and they came in prepped with tactics against six path techniques.

The sannin don't have info. Not even an ounce. None of the 3 has seen obito in action let alone kamui, their best info would be through rumors. Lol

 

[Red Slayer]

What you talking bout son? They most Def had intel. That's was the 3rd time kakashi ran into obito(same goes for Naruto), and they came in prepped with tactics against six path techniques.

The sannin don't have info. Not even an ounce. None of the 3 has seen obito in action let alone kamui, their best info would be through rumors. Lol

are u sure u read that fight boy? they didnt had intel Kakashi found out things about Kamui in that fight!1! 3rd time or not he still hadnt any fckng idea how that Jutsu works even thought he had it too Lol....


Saying Orochimaru doesnt have intel about Kamui after war when its every secret is already known for others is most stupid thing u can say.... also there was HQ and ofc they could know everything Kakashi found out about Kamui and if u remmeber Tsunade was there..... OP gave them Manga intel which automatically means they have full intel...

 

[BenjerminGaye]

are u sure u read that fight boy? they didnt had intel Kakashi found out things about Kamui in that fight!1! 3rd time or not he still hadnt any fckng idea how that Jutsu works even thought he had it too Lol....


Saying Orochimaru doesnt have intel about Kamui after war when its every secret is already known for others is most stupid thing u can say.... also there was HQ and ofc they could know everything Kakashi found out about Kamui and if u remmeber Tsunade was there..... OP gave them Manga intel which automatically means they have full intel...

Kakshi fought obito 3 times and saw kamui in action 3 times. Says he had no intel.

Oro never even shared a panel with obito. Says he knows how kamui works.

I'm done.

 

[Red Slayer]

Kakshi fought obito 3 times and saw kamui in action 3 times. Says he had no intel.

Oro never even shared a panel with obito. Says he knows how kamui works.

I'm done.

the thing that he saw Kamui 3 times doesnt mean that he knows how it works...only thing he saw is Masked man and the jutsu that makes phisical atks useless nothing more just reread fight okay? and u will see how he found out about secrets....
Oro Knows everything.... also im sure u forget Tsunade part i think


and yes u are done for

 

[Draphsin]

I ignored getting into a lengthy debate with Obitos biggest fapboy after he said some bullshit that the sannin in a manji formation can't touch Obito.

Lol You mean you conceded to the point since you couldn't counter? Ad hominem at it's finest right here, calls me a fapboy because he can't address the argument at hand. Typical tactic used by many people here, nothing new, moving on.

I hope you realize now how much bullshit that is.

Saying "I hope you realize how much bullsh*t that is" does nothing to discredit what I've said in any way or vice versa to your argument, so stop whining. You believe that it's BS? Then prove it, however it won't end well considering none of the sannin are fast enough to even touch obito to begin w/.

I'll counter the post you made in this thread though, not that its going to change your mind anyway though so at the end of the day its pointless to debate with you and I probably won't even reply to you after this (you're a little too biased) so don't expect a reply from me.

Whine some more, call me biased, etc., doesn't change anything about your argument which is all I care about here. & Don't reply, doesn't bother me either.

They don't need to stop the warp.

Yes they do, otherwise they get warped, simple as that.

My argument in the old thread and in a similar one I had with Benjamin dude was never about them escaping the Kamui warp. They fight in the manji formation.

Let them fight in manji formation, doesn't improve their reactions, doesn't prevent obito from reaching them, doesn't bypass intangibility. Literally does nothing.

That bullshit belief that the Sannin literally cant' touch Obito if he tries to warp one when they are

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should open your eyes on a bit on how much bullshit you spew out about him because hes your favorite.

Laughable, so how did zabuza appear in the

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of their formation then? If they're back to back then this should be impossible. This is the same sh*t as last thread, you failed yet again to even acknowledge the fact that zabuza trolled that formation. Notice how naruto/bee/kakashi/gai never resorted to such a formation when fighting obito? Should be enough to tell you that this piss poor counter isn't going to hold, not in the slightest.

Hell, obito can even simply warp right in front of their faces since they can't even react, screw the backs to eachother, they get caught in a genjutsu no matter where obito pops up. Or he can simply warp them all at once since he's done so w/ more than three targets. [

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So I suggest you read the manga next time, then the post you failed to counter, because you clearly didn't do either if you're going to resort to this again. What a joke.

When he goes for one the other deals a killing blow which will inevitably make him use Izanagi to survive or not warp at all.

Obito warping more than three targets at once destroys this notion, they all get warped at once so none of them have a chance to deal a killing blow. & Izanagi isn't even needed here. Or genjutsu knocks them out while intangibility forces both obito/the victim underground & away from the others.

& Even w/o warping them away, obito w/ sharingan precog dances around tsunade's punches then shoves a mokuton branch down her throat, same situation as

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except tsunade isn't nearly as fast. Oro & jiraiya both fall to genjutsu shortly after since obito has controlled

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target at once, & having them in a manji formation just makes it even easier. Intangibility trolls everything they can throw unless you think they can strike faster than a

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or

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If his speed was even close to the BS you spew about it he should have warped Fuu neg difficulty without no reaction whatsoever from him regardless of sensory when he came behind him but oh wait.......

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More retarded notions from a guy who apparently can't even read the damn manga? For christ's sake flip the pages.

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. If we go by this pathetic logic then fuu should've been able to strike obito & force him to go intangible when he appeared right in front of his face. Hmmm... Now what does that tell you?

It tells you that obito was obviously playing w/ this guy, cemented by the fact that he didn't even TRY to warp him after making contact w/ him the first time, he wen't for a PUNCH [

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then

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, that's a FIST]. & Not only that but what way was he facing? I know for sure if I'm fighting someone I'd be an idiot to turn my back to them, so either you believe obito is retarded or you're the retarded one for thinking that he was seriously fighting there.

Even after he grabbed Fuu and was about to warp him,

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. Yes, that Is Torune from a distance throwing a Kunai at him fast enough before he can warp Fuu.

Wow...No wonder you're not going to reply after this, it's just embarrassing... He PUNCHED, didn't even try warping him there, again read the manga, carefully next time.

Now he did warp Torune with no reaction and you might say Fuu only reacted because hes a sensor and felt him coming but Jiraiyas Canopy Barrier can act just like that, detecting anything physical in his vicinity in a huge radius, follows him wherever he goes, way bigger than a boss summon, covered the entire room, and was still expanding up the walls in the air and was about to reach Pain before he attacked.--->

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1. Explained how anyone w/ common sense wouldn't even consider the fact that obito was fighting seriously there, let alone attempting to even warp fuu in the first place.

2. Funny how you think jiraiya would be able to even have time to form the barrier before obito is ready to strike because that's clearly not the case. Jinton is faster than it yet obito warped in & out, combined w/ sharingan detecting jiraiya's hand movements & chakra build up that means he isn't managing to pull it off. Even if he miraculously does pull it off, zero reaction feats to stop a kamui warp or surprise genjutsu so he becomes a sitting duck anyways.

So, you can forget about Obito sneaking up on them and warping them with no reaction because his location will always be known

He doesn't even need to sneak up on these slugs. They have no speed feats to even compare.

Minato, the fastest hokage w/ the

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could do nothing but

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as obito was warping him away. Minato's strike speed > sannin's, minato's shunshin speed > sannin's, & minato's reaction speed >>>>> sannin's, yet he still couldn't escape being warped without an instantaneous jutsu. The funny thing is that because obito took his time against minato he managed to find his location, did it help his situation? Nope.

If a fodder like Fuu can react at point blank range

He didn't.

And another fodder like Torune can nail him with a kunai before he starts his warp from a distance.

He didn't do that either.

Don't ever spew that BS again about him being untouchable because the manga clearly showed had he warped Fuu, Torunes Kunai would nail his face (not that it would have breached the mask but he would have been hit, which is the point) and this is the Sannin were're talking about, all with superior reflexes and speeds than those two.

Lol...I'm spewing BS yet you're using fodders to try & prove your point? God this guy can't be serious right now... Obito likes to play w/ his opponents, this is a fact. He played w/ minato by

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, he played w/ konan by

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, his whole "tobi" persona is a testament to this fact as well. He played w/ fuu by phasing behind him facing the opposite way, then decided to punch him instead of warp him [which he could've done as soon as he grabbed the blade, like how he began his warp by

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], & he played w/ torune by warping him regardless of what it would do to his arm.

The fact that obito spun around to punch fuu shows us that he was playing w/ him, clear as day. Nothing was stopping him from beginning his warp after grabbing the blade, & so your entire point is irrelevant since these fodders weren't even fighting a serious obito.

If your next post is some bullshit to justify none of them hitting him at point blank range when he tries to warp one then I certainly won't reply at all.

Good, don't want to read your nonsense anymore anyways. They still failed to hit him at point blank, there I said it, now you don't have to reply w/ any more of your garbage.

Who knows, maybe he does stand a chance but not the way your argument was made so I suggest you take a different route than "Hurr durr he sneaks up and warps/genjutsu" "Hurr no one can do anything".

Hurr durr your counters were absolute feces, I'll put up a different argument if someone can actually prove me wrong, & you're nowhere near doing that. As I said he doesn't even need to sneak up on them, he can run up to them w/ the speed that was able to

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. They do nothing as attacks phase through him, while he easily handles them in cqc & suppresses them w/ genjutsu/kamui warps. The fact that you still think these three have any feats that allow them to react to obito when a sensor can't even

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while warping is absurd, & that's me putting it nicely.