MS Obito vs Sannin trio

[BenjerminGaye]

Genjutsu isn't Obito strong suit suit too tho' okay he controlled Kurama, and what else ? Oro was dropped by Itachi, who is a top tier in genjutsu, Oro could move being Genjutsu'd by Sasuke.
You want me to elaborate a question ?

Controls a perfect jin for years(something itachi couldn't do)... says it wasn't his strong suit.
Yes.

Explain?

Explain what?

 

[Songbird Supreme]

Explain what?

Why you don't think he can reverse summon himself.

 

[Sublime Green Beast]

Why wouldn't a reverse summon work lol?

 

[Amaterasu]

Controls a perfect jin for years(something itachi couldn't do)... says it wasn't his strong suit.
Yes.

Well Itachi didn't want to control a Jin so yh. And it doesn't change anything if he's a perfect jin or not, Jins are easy to control with Genjutsu, looks at Bee.

 

[Songbird Supreme]

Why wouldn't a reverse summon work lol?

This is what I'd like to know U_U

 

[Draphsin]

Why you don't think he can reverse summon himself.

Why wouldn't a reverse summon work lol?

Even if you think reverse summoning works [which is a whole other discussion] they still lose, since they can't engage in a fight w/ obito anymore due to not being able to reach back to the battlefield within a reasonable amount of time. It's the same thing as fleeing, thus BFR.

 

[Izanamı.]

Even if you think reverse summoning works [which is a whole other discussion] they still lose, since they can't engage in a fight w/ obito anymore due to not being able to reach back to the battlefield within a reasonable amount of time. It's the same thing as fleeing, thus BFR.

can you put up an argument to how Obito wins?

 

[Draphsin]

can you put up an argument to how Obito wins?

Well first & foremost the sannin don't have any significant reaction feats to stop a kamui warp.

Oro can't touch obito, genjutsu one shots him as obito teleports right in front of his face like

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. Jiraiya can't touch him either, since his striking speed is far below KCM naruto who

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to touch obito before he could warp himself away. & Tsunade phases through obito & hits one of her allies by mistake, similar to

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. Then obito warps her away or shoves a mokuton spike through her head.

Genjutsu/uchiha kaenjin + katon combo deals w/ summons.

 

[BenjerminGaye]

Well Itachi didn't want to control a Jin so yh. And it doesn't change anything if he's a perfect jin or not, Jins are easy to control with Genjutsu, looks at Bee.

Whether he wanted to or not wasn't up to him, and gyuuki still broke it.
I am be broke both sasuke's and itachi's gen yet yagura couldn't. Thats saying something.

Why you don't think he can reverse summon himself.

Why wouldn't a reverse summon work lol?

Because kamui is a sealed dimension.

 

[Sublime Green Beast]

Because kamui is a sealed dimension.

What does that mean? (not that I've ever heard it before)

 

[Songbird Supreme]

Because kamui is a sealed dimension.

Huh? Where does it say this?

 

[Amaterasu]

Whether he wanted to or not wasn't up to him, and gyuuki still broke it.
I am be broke both sasuke's and itachi's gen yet yagura couldn't. Thats saying something.

Ok but do we compare Jins to Oro and Jiraiya who are better at Genjutsu ? If Jiraiya uses Frog Song ? How Obito would break it ?

 

[Izanamı.]

Huh? Where does it say this?

he's probably talking about this

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but aren't all S/T dimensions sealed?

 

[Sublime Green Beast]

but aren't all S/T dimensions sealed?

Generally yes.

But other space-time techniques can offset this I would assume.

For example, do you think Minato would be able to leave the Kamui dimension if his kunai was placed outside of it?

 

[Izanamı.]

Generally yes.

But other space-time techniques can offset this I would assume.

For example, do you think Minato would be able to leave the Kamui dimension if his kunai was placed outside of it?

i'm not sure but if he could the whole Obito vs Minato fight would be pointless

 

[Amaterasu]

Generally yes.

But other space-time techniques can offset this I would assume.

For example, do you think Minato would be able to leave the Kamui dimension if his kunai was placed outside of it?

If he does before the hole close itself, probably.

 

[Songbird Supreme]

i'm not sure but if he could the whole Obito vs Minato fight would be pointless

Aren't all dimensions "sealed off" from each other technically? Isn't that why stuff like Kaguya's Amenominaka are required to access these other dimensions? So I don't see how the scan has too much weight imo.

 

[BenjerminGaye]

Ok but do we compare Jins to Oro and Jiraiya who are better at Genjutsu ? If Jiraiya uses Frog Song ? How Obito would break it ?

Jman is crap at genjutsu by his own admission. His frogs might be good but he is not. Summoning the frogs let alone getting them to resonate the song is two levels of prep he won't have time for, and by simply distorting space time via kamui he'd automatically distort the sound since it travels through a medium he's actively changing. Oro has no reputable genjutsu feats bar getting lol'd on by Sasuke and itachi. So he's gonna hold the L to obito's genjutsu as well.

Huh? Where does it say this?

What does that mean? (not that I've ever heard it before)

Spoiler

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The only way in and out is with the eyes.

Generally yes.

But other space-time techniques can offset this I would assume.

For example, do you think Minato would be able to leave the Kamui dimension if his kunai was placed outside of it?

No he wouldn't. Proof of this is through kakashi. Kakashi was marked by narutos chakra twice yet when Minato ftg'd everyone who was connected to naruto's chakra kakashi didn't come with him. And if all dimensions were sealed sasuke's summon wouldn't work in kaguya's, Harogomo's wouldn't work in kaguya's, and obito's wouldn't work in kaguya's.

 

[Izanamı.]

Aren't all dimensions "sealed off" from each other technically? Isn't that why stuff like Kaguya's Amenominaka are required to access these other dimensions? So I don't see how the scan has too much weight imo.

i'm not really sure tbh. all kinds of S/T dimensions should be sealed but Kamui has been described and shown as inaccessible by everything that is not Obito's Mangekyo.

 

[Sublime Green Beast]

So then hypothetically when Kakashi and Obito were in the dimension fighting...

Kakashi wouldn't have been able to summon his dogs.