***? Gender? Transgender? Transsexual?

[Yubel]

Saying *** and gender aren't the same is only a rationalization for more trannies.
For a normal person, they'll always be the same.

 

[sasukesworld]

Them simply insisting that I am an "Idiotic, tumblr-tard and etc" and with a hint of "*** and gender = same, gender is not mental, transgender and transsexual=same

Let's be honest you are, after what I read.

To be clear, transgender have a mental illness. It's not normal, to be a man or a woman decides your chromosoms.
XY= man XX= woman
You can't change that.
The suicide rate is very high by transgenders.

And I'm not religious at all, I don't believe in fanfics.

 

[paratise]

Let's be honest you are, after what I read.

To be clear, transgender have a mental illness. It's not normal, to be a man or a woman decides your chromosoms.
XY= man XX= woman
You can't change that.
The suicide rate is very high by transgenders.

And I'm not religious at all, I don't believe in fanfics.

Suicide rate is high because of the results of oppression and discrimination. In many places they do not get accepted by their families, have hard time finding a job, even renting houes is a problem, society treats them like they are scums, they get physically and sexually violeted, they have higher risks of getting murdered etc. Dismissing them by saying "they are sick so they kill themselves" is being ignorant of many factors.

Gender is determined by brain not just chromosomes:

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XX: female and XY: male logic is very primitive when it comes to a more complex subject like biology and ***/gendee differences. Please refrain from spreading halfassed misinformation if you have no idea what you are talking about and being intolerent.

Also there are intersex people who are born with both ***'s characteristics or born with a certain ***'s chromosomes while having gender charactetistics of another gender. For example a person who has XY chromosome and has female genital and characteristics:

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XX = female logic is not applying anywhere as it seems. Are they men or woman now? The answer is simple, they are what they feel like.

 

[The Dreamer]

*** and gender are the same thing in my book. This is a problem for English-speaking folks. In my language there's only one word to describe ***/gender so I view them as one and the same.

 

[sasukesworld]

Suicide rate is high because of the results of oppression and discrimination. In many places they do not get accepted by their families, have hard time finding a job, even renting houes is a problem, society treats them like they are scums, they get physically and sexually violeted, they have higher risks of getting murdered etc. Dismissing them by saying "they are sick so they kill themselves" is being ignorant of many factors.

Gender is determined by brain not just chromosomes:

You must be registered for see links

XX: female and XY: male logic is very primitive when it comes to a more complex subject like biology and ***/gendee differences. Please refrain from spreading halfassed misinformation if you have no idea what you are talking about and being intolerent.

Also there are intersex people who are born with both ***'s characteristics or born with a certain ***'s chromosomes while having gender charactetistics of another gender. For example a person who has XY chromosome and has female genital and characteristics:

You must be registered for see links

XX = female logic is not applying anywhere as it seems. Are they men or woman now? The answer is simple, they are what they feel like.

Maybe sometimes, but that's not the main reason why so many commit suicide.
The families should accept them as an ill person who should get a treatment. The thing is, even before they have their surgery a lot of them commit sucide. That's not because of discrimination.

No, society, especially sjw and feminists are defending them, saying it's normal. But it's not. They also try to convince the society that pedos are normal (the just began, so it's not as public as the tranny s**t).
It's not ignorant, it's the truth.
It's like you have a depression, the suicide rate is higher than the rate by normal, not ill, people. They kill themself because of their illness.

You know if you have a mental illness, the organ which is affected is the brain.

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That's something else. It's called "hermaphrodite".

 

[Punk Hazard]

So much bigotry and intolerance.

*** and gender are the same thing in my book. This is a problem for English-speaking folks. In my language there's only one word to describe ***/gender so I view them as one and the same.

In Japanese there is only one word for mustache and beard. Does that mean they are the same thing?

Is a flying bat and a baseball bat the same thing?
A tree bark and a dog's bark?

Having interchangeable words or same words doesn't mean they're the same thing.

 

[The Dreamer]

So much bigotry and intolerance.



In Japanese there is only one word for mustache and beard. Does that mean they are the same thing?

Is a flying bat and a baseball bat the same thing?
A tree bark and a dog's bark?

Having interchangeable words or same words doesn't mean they're the same thing.

What you're reffering to are the words that sound the same but have different meanings. Here there is no word for gender as it is defined in English. It is refered to the same way as ***. (Or I'm not aware of it.)
Also I believe the word in Japanese you're talking about is reffering to facial hair, so yeah both mustache and beard go for it.

EDIT: Never mind, I mixed something up. There is a word for gender however it doesn't have the exact same meaning like in English. I'm kinda confused now. @.@

 

[paratise]

Maybe sometimes, but that's not the main reason why so many commit suicide.
The families should accept them as an ill person who should get a treatment. The thing is, even before they have their surgery a lot of them commit sucide. That's not because of discrimination.

No, society, especially sjw and feminists are defending them, saying it's normal. But it's not. They also try to convince the society that pedos are normal (the just began, so it's not as public as the tranny s**t).
It's not ignorant, it's the truth.
It's like you have a depression, the suicide rate is higher than the rate by normal, not ill, people. They kill themself because of their illness.

You know if you have a mental illness, the organ which is affected is the brain.

You must be registered for see links

You must be registered for see links

You must be registered for see links

That's something else. It's called "hermaphrodite".

I do not like repaeating myself so i will simply ignore the first paragraphs which are filled with your own opinons based on nothing. You ideas of how parents "should" act is not how they act and majority of society (out of internet, streets are not filled with tumblr sjw and feminists) does. It is not even a good way of treatment to begin with.

Okay i looked at the home pages of the sources you have posted first 2 are religion biased nonsenses which are irrelevant for obvious reasons and 3rd one is not so far off.

 

[sasukesworld]

I do not like repaeating myself so i will simply ignore the first paragraphs which are filled with your own opinons based on nothing. You ideas of how parents "should" act is not how they act and majority of society (out of internet, streets are not filled with tumblr sjw and feminists) does. It is not even a good way of treatment to begin with.

Okay i looked at the home pages of the sources you have posted first 2 are religion biased nonsenses which are irrelevant for obvious reasons and 3rd one is not so far off.

No, i's not filled with my opinion. Yours is,
-you have no evidence
-you think it's normal
-the people who say it's an illness are the problem, not the illness


"The families should accept them as an ill person who should get a treatment." That's the only sentence in the first paragraph with my opinion. Don't claim anything if it's not true.

They explaind it, I have a lot more links saved but I can't find them ._.
With no religion stuff in it.

You just ignore what I wrote because you have no evidence of anything.
It's just your opinion.
One can't talk to sjw or feminists (I bet you are one and maybe don' even know it), they refuse all arguments, don't listen etc.

And it's not intolerant to say it's an illness and should be treated, it is an illness after all.

 

[Punk Hazard]

No, i's not filled with my opinion. Yours is,
-you have no evidence
-you think it's normal
-the people who say it's an illness are the problem, not the illness


"The families should accept them as an ill person who should get a treatment." That's the only sentence in the first paragraph with my opinion. Don't claim anything if it's not true.

They explaind it, I have a lot more links saved but I can't find them ._.
With no religion stuff in it.

You just ignore what I wrote because you have no evidence of anything.
It's just your opinion.
One can't talk to sjw or feminists (I bet you are one and maybe don' even know it), they refuse all arguments, don't listen etc.

And it's not intolerant to say it's an illness and should be treated, it is an illness after all.

Even if it is an illness, who cares? They're not being harmed, it's not harming another person, if they make the choice, who are any of us to judge them? They don't need treatment, it's views like that that cause so many people who are trans to kill themselves. Enough of this "You're sick and we gotta fix you" BS.

 

[Funky Tiger]

Let's be honest you are, after what I read.

To be clear, transgender have a mental illness. It's not normal, to be a man or a woman decides your chromosoms.
XY= man XX= woman
You can't change that.
The suicide rate is very high by transgenders.

And I'm not religious at all, I don't believe in fanfics.

oh wow, this post is so wrong on so many ****ing levels

 

[paratise]

No, i's not filled with my opinion. Yours is,
-you have no evidence
-you think it's normal
-the people who say it's an illness are the problem, not the illness


"The families should accept them as an ill person who should get a treatment." That's the only sentence in the first paragraph with my opinion. Don't claim anything if it's not true.

They explaind it, I have a lot more links saved but I can't find them ._.
With no religion stuff in it.

You just ignore what I wrote because you have no evidence of anything.
It's just your opinion.
One can't talk to sjw or feminists (I bet you are one and maybe don' even know it), they refuse all arguments, don't listen etc.

And it's not intolerant to say it's an illness and should be treated, it is an illness after all.

You said they had higher rates of suicide because of being mentally ill. And there is no grounded arguement or proof of that from you.

My opinion of them being "normal" can be evidienced by links with scientific information i found, and really do i need to bring sources you for prooving there is discrimination against transsexuals and transgenders people? Do you need source to know the fact that we live on planet Earth? (rhetoric question but you might aswell need that)

 

[Frankenstein]

Well if you want to call a person that was born a man but made a surgery to now have female parts a "she" then it's okay. Tell you what, some people even refer to them as traps, no matter how racist that is.

If you want to call a person that was born a man but identifies/feels female a "she" then so be it in this case too. But others can technically call him a "he" and that should be ok too. To an alien he would still be fall under the male category anyway.

 

[Jonesy161]

*** and Gender are basically the same in today's modern culture, however, the small difference between the two are what is a biological fact and what is the stereotypical role of said ***. Best way to put put it is what makes a man and a woman. A man requires the biological traits of a male, the reproduction organs, penis and testicals as well as their role in life which would be protection of their pack, maintaining dominance, etc. A woman will require biological traits of a female reproduction system and their role would be birthing, nursing and collecting food. Male and female reproduction system would be the *** and their roles would be their Gender.

However, those Gender roles no longer apply in today's society, so Gender would be more used in the same context of ***, but it's actual meaning would be their role in society, which all we use in roles to distinguish man from woman would be how we act, our mental thought process. So things like a Suit vs a Dress, Swimming Shorts vs Bikini, Hobbies, etc. Anything that isn't a sexual reproductive organ that defines us as our sexual preference would be our Gender Roles. So in a sense, yes, in today's society, Gender would be more of a mental distinguishing fact between sexes. You can be born with male genitalia, and as far as *** goes, you are a man, you were born a man, you will live as a man. However, Gender wise, you could feel as if you shouldn't have been born a man, you prefer same *** relationships, you have more feminine preferences and qualities, etc.

As for Transgender and Transexual, no, those are not the same, far from it. Transexual would be redefining your *** entirely, removing all *** Organs you were born with for the opposite ***. Being born a woman and becoming a man through surgery and visa versa. Transgender is how you act, your mental state, your preferred role as a human. That case, you would be a man dressing as a woman as more commonly seen, or a woman dressing as a typical man, or what we usually call a Tomboy.

EDIT: The issue between the two is sexism in today's world. Man and Woman no longer want to be defined on their social roles based on their ***. Men in the past brought in the income, provided housing and food for their family, etc. For years that has been the case, to the point that that has become a Gender role for Men, not Women. That means a Woman in a Presidential Position in a company held by a Man for 40+ years would now be undertaking his roles in society. Since his roles defined what a man is, she is picking up a role as a man, despite being a woman, making her Transgender. Now, if you're a feminist, you would say this is extremely unfair to say and think. This is why the actual definition of Gender is merging with that of ***, as judging a Man or a Woman based off of their preferences and what they are expected to do from years of a certain standpoint is pretty sexist.