[Predictions] Naruto Manga 490 Discussion and 491 Predictions

[cryhwks]

For the people saying that because Orochimaru was going to summon the 4th Hokage that Kabuto can summon the 1st but there is a differense between the 1st & the 4th his spirit was not completely sealed away because he left some of his spirit behind in Naruto so the 4ht is not completely inside of the Reaper 4th could be summond by Kabuto but i don't think the 1st or the 2nd or 3rd can because they are completely sealed inside the Reaper

 

[Pepsilover]

The one in the last coffin is........

Michael Jackson THE KING OF POP MUSIC!!

or

SAGE OF THE SIX PATHS!!

or

MADARA HIMSELF!! (and the guy with the mask is ether his brother or Tobi)

or

UGLYEST WOMAN IN ENTIRE UNIWERSE! OF ALL COMICBOOKS AND EVERYWHERE!!



It would be cool if it was fourth! It would be cool if naruto has to fight him :-D

 

[BarBoBot]

For the people saying that because Orochimaru was going to summon the 4th Hokage that Kabuto can summon the 1st but there is a differense between the 1st & the 4th his spirit was not completely sealed away because he left some of his spirit behind in Naruto so the 4ht is not completely inside of the Reaper 4th could be summond by Kabuto but i don't think the 1st or the 2nd or 3rd can because they are completely sealed inside the Reaper

Oro would know that the 4th sacrificed himself to seal the 9 tails, but I dont think he would know that the 4th sealed a portion of himself inside naruto.

It cant be proved...yet...but I believe that oro thought he could summon the 4th,even though he was sealed into the reaper.

I dont think that the 1st or 2nd will be summoned, but I do think its a possibility.

we will all know shortly

 

[Flvtist]

Tobi, or whoever he is, probably isn't really Madara, given the clues presented here. Think of Kabuto's coy remark of "Uchiha Madara... You truly are in your own league." And Tobi responds, "Wise guy." I think Kabuto was talking to the corpse in the coffin when he said that, not to Tobi, because they both know it was the "real" Madara in the coffin.

 

[Whiteknight]

I really wonder who was in that last coffin... That was like the first time we've ever seen Madara genuinely surprised and maybe even afraid... I only have a few thoughts:

1. If the rumors about Tobi not really being Madara are true, then this could be the real Madara, or perhaps Izuna.

2. Sage of the Six Paths? Seems unlikely, but based on who Kabuto summoned, he does not need the corpses to do this jutsu, there don't even have to be corpses. Technically, Sasori isn't even a corpse since he has no more human parts since his heart stopped beating, and if he was, Kankurou has it now. Deidara blew himself up from the inside, Kakuzu is in the Leaf Village, and didn't Tobi take Itachi's body? Based on this, there don't have to be actual corpses to do this jutsu, at least Id don't think so.

I'm honestly at a loss for more thoughts after this. I doubt it's Shodaime, since Kishi wouldn't have bothered not showing his face since Orochimaru already summoned him way back when. He was the only one who fought on par with Madara during his lifetime, and even beat him I think, but it would be extremely anticlimactic if it were him. And then... I don't think that we've seen anyone else who would cause Madara any trouble. He defeated the fourth, would probably pwn Orochimaru, and we're already looking at all of the other strong Akatsuki members... this is a head scratcher right here... >.<

It's a good question. Best mystery I think we've ever seen on this manga (close second is the "that jutsu" they keep mentioning).

I don't think it's the first or second Hokage, because the third hokage sealed their souls using the reaper seal in the fight against Orochimaru. It could be the third or fourth hokages, but I don't think Madara is afraid of either of them.

Madara did "kill" the fourth hokage, but was only able to do it by controlling the demon fox. Without the fox, he wouldn't be able to do the same. Of course, the soul of the fourth hokage would probably still have intimate knowedge of the seal that is used to hold the fox in Naruto, so maybe Madara is going to need that information to get the fox out of him. Again, I don't think it's likely to be the fourth hokage.

It could be somebody that Madara is afraid of, or somebody that could kill Madara. Maybe it's Madara's brother, and resurrecting him would negate Madara's EMS.

But then again, if it was a person capable of killing Madara, or taking away his power, why wouldn't Kabuto do that and then kill Sasuke immediately? Maybe Kabuto thinks Madarais his best chance of defeating the leaf village, and his revenge against Sasuke can wait till after that.

I don't know, but it's quite a mystery.

 

[Whiteknight]

Tobi, or whoever he is, probably isn't really Madara, given the clues presented here. Think of Kabuto's coy remark of "Uchiha Madara... You truly are in your own league." And Tobi responds, "Wise guy." I think Kabuto was talking to the corpse in the coffin when he said that, not to Tobi, because they both know it was the "real" Madara in the coffin.

Entirely possible, but the who is "Toby", and where did he get the EMS with the cool teleportation jutsus? Toby still has to be a powerful Uchiha.

 

[a thousand years of death]

The whole "I want Sasuke's body" is so Michael Jackson..​

haha. enough said

what does - ttebayo mean? naruto always says it and now karibi?

it doesnt mean anything. it was made up just for naruto

i know who is in the coffin

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that would make anyone sh*t himself

 

[XxSpaceChomperxX]

I loved the manga, it was awesome! I have to say that Kabuto has become much stronger and together with his intelligence, he has become a dangerous figure in the manga. Based on Madara’s reaction to the coffin opening, I’d have to say that whoever is in the coffin has great power. I’m going to go with what everyone else was saying and some of my own guesses. The person could either be:

1. Rikodou Sennin, otherwise known as the Sage of the Six Paths
2. One of the young men The Sage of the Six Paths gave power to, the elder who obtained the Chakra of the Sage and originated the Uchiha clan.

It would have been awesome if it was really Madara’s body, but I don’t think it is. When Madara revealed his true identity to Kisame, he raised the mask. Right there, Kisame knew who he was; I don’t think Kisame knew any other Uchiha, since Madara was the Mizukage at one point. So Tobi has his body, with the power of Eternal Mangekyou Sharingan, he was able to maintain immortality, so he probably can’t age. But all in all, the chapter was great, Kabuto is deceiving Madara, but Madara will eventually catch onto it..I hope he does.

 

[Itachi Sama]

hehe. im not a big fan of oreos tbh.



i dont remember anything about needing a body for that jutsu (no not "that jutsu" )
also does edo tensei need to use the soul of the person you are summoning? cause if you do isnt the first sealed in the reaper?
if so it cant be the first.

i dont believe tobi is madara anymore. i was only tenative about him being madara to begin with.
i dont think it is obito either. he would have been too young to have been a pain to the fourth.

i think it might have been shisui. i mean an advanced shunshin, a missing eye that could have been taken by danzo, the need to get it after that fight. we where never told about shisui's age and Ao wasnt at the summit when tobi arrived.

shisui was suddenly built up in the last arc and now it is hinted madara isnt tobi.



i concur itachi sama. with everything you said

Thanks Naruto. I would expect you, the hero of the story, to be able to beat the daylights out of Sasuke without using the kyuubi.

 

[Itachi Sama]

I loved the manga, it was awesome! I have to say that Kabuto has become much stronger and together with his intelligence, he has become a dangerous figure in the manga. Based on Madara’s reaction to the coffin opening, I’d have to say that whoever is in the coffin has great power. I’m going to go with what everyone else was saying and some of my own guesses. The person could either be:

1. Rikodou Sennin, otherwise known as the Sage of the Six Paths
2. One of the young men The Sage of the Six Paths gave power to, the elder who obtained the Chakra of the Sage and originated the Uchiha clan.

It would have been awesome if it was really Madara’s body, but I don’t think it is. When Madara revealed his true identity to Kisame, he raised the mask. Right there, Kisame knew who he was; I don’t think Kisame knew any other Uchiha, since Madara was the Mizukage at one point. So Tobi has his body, with the power of Eternal Mangekyou Sharingan, he was able to maintain immortality, so he probably can’t age. But all in all, the chapter was great, Kabuto is deceiving Madara, but Madara will eventually catch onto it..I hope he does.

Tobi San!!! How come you did not jump and hugged your Deidara sempai when he came out of the coffin?

 

[Itachi Sama]

haha. enough said



it doesnt mean anything. it was made up just for naruto

i know who is in the coffin

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that would make anyone sh*t himself

Good one. It reminds me of a buddy I had in high school who likes to make Chuck Norris jokes.

 

[Itachi Sama]

How about Super Sajin 3 Goku being in the coffin? (Lame one, I know...)

 

[XxSpaceChomperxX]

Tobi San!!! How come you did not jump and hugged Deidara when he came out of the coffin?

Hehe, Deidara sempai wasn't looking himself when the coffin opened, so I didn't want to bother him. xd

 

[Asakura Hao]

Rule the First Hokage out as his soul is sealed within the Death Ripper stomach and Kishi already showed him summoned before so it wouldn't be a surprise.

His brother, can be indeed but i still think it's someone even bigger..

Sage of the six paths, i don't think so.. I doubt anyone even Madara knows how he looks like.. Plus it wouldn't be that relevant to Madara anyway.​

Rule out Jiraya aswell (as some others said), what kind of threat could he possibly be to Madara anyways?

My bet its on Madara's real body/the real Madara, that way if Tobi's usurping Madara, his whole plan will go to hell. If its Madara's real body, then the new Madara's soul will transfer over his former body and be controlled by Kabuto.

 

[Asakura Hao]

Entirely possible, but the who is "Toby", and where did he get the EMS with the cool teleportation jutsus? Toby still has to be a powerful Uchiha.

@White Knight: Tobi has never been seen using the EMS.

 

[Asakura Hao]

Tobi, or whoever he is, probably isn't really Madara, given the clues presented here. Think of Kabuto's coy remark of "Uchiha Madara... You truly are in your own league." And Tobi responds, "Wise guy." I think Kabuto was talking to the corpse in the coffin when he said that, not to Tobi, because they both know it was the "real" Madara in the coffin.

I strongly agree with you

 

[Shika Love]

First of all, many here should take a look at the last Discussion/Prediction thread where Kenshin Himura explained countless times that you

DON`T NEED THE BODY OF THE PERSON TO SUMMON HIM!
Somebody even linked the page where you could read about it.

Second of all, Oro, Kenshin... Please stop propping this thread with foreign Language!xd

Third. Most of you guys forget something. If Kabuto (or anyone for that matter) can`t summon peoples that have been sealed/got their soul sealed inside the death god(1st, 2nd, 3rd, and 4th Hokage), then how was Orochimaru able to summon the 4th Hokage(Well Sarutobi stopped him in the last sec.)?

He`s sealed inside the death god, but Oro still halfway summoned him.

Speaking of the 4th Hokage. I wonder why Sarutobi said that he had to stop that coffin(the one with Minato) no matter what? Was it because he knew he couldn`t handle more than 2 former Hokages, or was it because Minato was better that the 1st?

And lastly, the one in the coffin is probably someone that we haven`t heard of, like Madara and Izuna`s dad or third brother.

But its most likely the "real" Madara, his brother, the 4th Hokage, The 1st Hokage, or maybe even Hanzo the Salamander. Who knows.

And speaking of Kabuto summoning peoples. If he cares so much about Oro, why doesn`t he just summon him?

1: Because he knows a way of reviving him the real way through Sasuke.

2: Because he want Oro to have his own will not to be controlled.

3: Because Oro himself is sealed within the sword and not just his soul. Maybe that`s why Oro could summon the 4th, and Kabuto can`t summon Oro. - Because only Minato`s soul was sealed while Oro`s soul and body was sealed.

Any Thoughts?

THANK YOU!!! I too wanted to point out that Orochimaru did try to summon the 4th Hokage, with Sarutobi trying to stop him. However, I think it may be possible that the reason Sarutobi was so adamant about stopping him from being summoned had something to do with the Reaper Death Seal. Maybe it would destabilize Naruto's seal or something? I like your theories too though.

I am also really interested to see who is in the coffin. I personally like the idea of it being the 4th (Madara probably knows the 4th was aware he set Kyuubi on the village) for various reasons, but I think its probably not the case. It could be Izuna, or Madara's "original body" but, as someone else pointed out, you need the soul for Edo Tensei, and since Madara's soul seems to be intact in whatever body he has, it doesn't quite compute. "Madara" would have to not be Madara at all, and I doubt that is the case. There are too many possibilities to count here, but it'll be interesting to find out what Madara is so threatened by.

I enjoyed this chapter. Kabuto is still ridiculously creepy. He freaks me out. I was again glad to see Naruto becoming more mature in this chapter and fully taking on the mantle his father left for him by accepting the key to his seal. I am very interested to see how he will go about learning to control the Kyuubi's "mind" - and the explanation of how the Kyuubi's chakra/mind and the seal works was really cool! If all it takes is willpower, Naruto will eventually master the Kyuubi.

Killer Bee is hilarious and ridiculous...kind of funny that his rhymes had "dattebayo" in them when Naruto was just talking about finding the octopus!! :xd I'll be interested to see more of Killer Bee in the future...and to see what happens with Kisame. I have a feeling there will be some bloodshed in the near future in Kumogakure.

I really have no idea what is to come, and I am really excited to find out. Although the proliferation of insane chapters has me a little worried we might be getting close to the end...I hope not!

 

[XxSpaceChomperxX]

I just noticed that Madara can easily defeat Kabuto, avoiding all future problematic occurrences in Madara’s plan…..

 

[Foetoid]

Here is what i think. Some time ago, Madara realized his plan for the Moons Eye but knew it would take more than a lifetime to achieve it. Using his EMS, he creates a jutsu to separate his body from his soul, stopping his body from aging and letting his spirit run free. This would also explain somewhat his technique for never getting hit by anything ever. He keeps his body safe and in some sort of un-aging sleep, while he uses his spirit to run around, gather akatsuki, gather the beasts, all in preparation for acquiring the Jubi, fusing back with his body, and becoming the 10-tailed Jinchuuriki. Kabuto must have found this out and was able to summon his body. All speculation, but plausible.

I like how Kabuto also said that wasn't the full extent of his army. Perhaps he can bring back the 4th Hokage, Danzo, Jiraya and Orochimaru too.

I would also LOVE to see Nagato, since he's kinda back, be forced to use his resurrection jutsu to bring everyone back permanently as really alive, but then of course Itachi and Nagato would probably leave the akatsuki and Kabuto would lose control over them, so it's unlikely.

 

[cryhwks]

Oro would know that the 4th sacrificed himself to seal the 9 tails, but I dont think he would know that the 4th sealed a portion of himself inside naruto.

It cant be proved...yet...but I believe that oro thought he could summon the 4th,even though he was sealed into the reaper.

I dont think that the 1st or 2nd will be summoned, but I do think its a possibility.

we will all know shortly

I don't think Orochimaruo knew about the Rearper Death Seal because he did not know about it before the 3rd used it against him so he would have no idea that the 4th sealed most of his spirit away