J-man was not interested in Naruto

[Hexen]

That was Hiruzen's decision. I think it was right thing to hide his fathers ID but letting people know about Kyuubi was a mistake. He should've lied that Kyuubi is died or something and kept that a secret as well.

Hiruzen wasn't the only one who witnessed Kyuubi's sealing plus he knew people had to be careful around Naruto but yea overall it was an unavoidable decision that people had to know who Naruto really is.

 

[maniaoqan]

Hiruzen wasn't the only one who witnessed Kyuubi's sealing plus he knew people had to be careful around Naruto but yea overall it was an unavoidable decision that people had to know who Naruto really is.

There were a couple Anbu other than Hiruzen witnessed the event. If he ordered them to keep it a secret and threatened them with execution, it wouldn't leaked. He most likely shared what happened to his advisors and perhaps clan heads.

 

[KingHashirama]

He wasn't able to do anything about Orochimaru personally but thanks to him tracking Orochimaru, he was able to aware of Akatsuki and protected Naruto from them.


You can't just say hi to your godson and leave for your duties next day. Either settle for good or not at all, giving false hopes to a child is more cruel. And lets not forget about trying to keep Naruto's ID as Minato's son a secret.



Kakashi was a wreck. Losing Obito, being have to kill Rin. Than Kyuubi attack and losing his master. Lets not forget his father killed himself when Kakashi was a child.
And also visiting once and leaving for your business next day would only make things more complicated. What would he say ? I was a friend of your dad, lets hang out a bit but I can't tell who your dad is so don't ask pretty please or something ?

So he got lucky.. and now you think he should be thanked for the luck? yeaaa.. no.

Hmm actually you kind of can. You can put your grandson in a better place, by knowing you exist, and not make him cry every freaking night. I'm pretty sure orphans around the world who have no family, would value someone who came to visit or live with them for couple of weeks, and then left again.. compared to living by themselves. So bad excuse for Jiraiya this is.

@Since when? I'm lost.. do you know around which chapter that was mentioned? Cause i'm pretty sure alot of the ninja that night knew about Naruto being Minato's son.


What did Iruka say? lol. A complete stranger who didn't even know Naruto's family, saved Naruto.. I'm sure if Iruka was able to do it Kakashi could've said something.

 

[Angelic.]

deadbeat lol too lazy to be hokage too

narutos so messed up he never said what the hell?! when he found out his dad was jmans student and kakashis sensei lol

 

[~Ethereal~]

Good to know.

 

[Hexen]

There were a couple Anbu other than Hiruzen witnessed the event. If he ordered them to keep it a secret and threatened them with execution, it wouldn't leaked. He most likely shared what happened to his advisors and perhaps clan heads.

That's more like Danzo's style threatening with execution to hide facts.Also what could have been the reason for their execution?Such info cannot be hidden from the other elders.

 

[Hokage4]

He died thinking of naruto. He cared for him

 

[KingHashirama]

As I recall, Hiruzen said Minato wanted Naruto to be remembered as a hero. However, it turned out the opposite. From that I assume people already knew who's kid he was. Plus, the whole Kushina giving birth and so on. Their kid magically didn't die.

 

[maniaoqan]

So he got lucky.. and now you think he should be thanked for the luck? yeaaa.. no.

Orochimaru was a threat to village. He was keeping Konoha which is Naruto's home as well safe by tracking his movements. So its not luck as you say, he could've simply ignored Akatsuki just because Orochimaru left it. But he didn't.

Hmm actually you kind of can. You can put your grandson in a better place, by knowing you exist, and not make him cry every freaking night. I'm pretty sure orphans around the world who have no family, would value someone who came to visit or live with them for couple of weeks, and then left again.. compared to living by themselves. So bad excuse for Jiraiya this is.

Hiruzen was there for a reason. That man is hokage for a reason, he is the top dog of the village. What better enviroment could Jiraiya provide for Naruto that Hiruzen couldn't. He lived in an apartment of his own, no rent or bills. Hiruzen was providing everything for him. So Jiraiya had no reason to worry about Naruto's health, because as far as he know Hiruzen got that covered.

@Since when? I'm lost.. do you know around which chapter that was mentioned? Cause i'm pretty sure alot of the ninja that night knew about Naruto being Minato's son.

Its not matter. Minato already seems not much suprised and realizig Hiruzen hid the truth to keep Naruto safe. What benefit were there is to tell Naruto his fathers ID. He was an attention seeking kid, he would've started yelling all around Konoha that his father was the hero 4th who saved the village soon. Hinata was almost kidnapped, Mizuki was almost killing Naruto. It would only put a death mark on Naruto's name.

What did Iruka say? lol. A complete stranger who didn't even know Naruto's family, saved Naruto.. I'm sure if Iruka was able to do it Kakashi could've said something.

Comparing Iruka and Kakashi. They're way different. I don't remember Iruka killing one of his closest friends or seeing the person he admired kill himself who happens to be his father after getting shunned by his comrades. Iruka only lost his parents. He lost once, Kakashi experienced such feelings many times. And expecting everyone to endure these kind of things the same is stupid. Not every human fonctions the same about this kind of matters.

That's more like Danzo's style threatening with execution to hide facts.Also what could have been the reason for their execution?Such info cannot be hidden from the other elders.

Well he created the law which threatened every villager with execution basically. He isn't as cruel as Danzo but giving a threat like that doesn't seem that far fetched for Hiruzen.

 

[Hexen]

Orochimaru was a threat to village. He was keeping Konoha which is Naruto's home as well safe by tracking his movements. So its not luck as you say, he could've simply ignored Akatsuki just because Orochimaru left it. But he didn't.



Hiruzen was there for a reason. That man is hokage for a reason, he is the top dog of the village. What better enviroment could Jiraiya provide for Naruto that Hiruzen couldn't. He lived in an apartment of his own, no rent or bills. Hiruzen was providing everything for him. So Jiraiya had no reason to worry about Naruto's health, because as far as he know Hiruzen got that covered.


Its not matter. Minato already seems not much suprised and realizig Hiruzen hid the truth to keep Naruto safe. What benefit were there is to tell Naruto his fathers ID. He was an attention seeking kid, he would've started yelling all around Konoha that his father was the hero 4th who saved the village soon. Hinata was almost kidnapped, Mizuki was almost killing Naruto. It would only put a death mark on Naruto's name.



Comparing Iruka and Kakashi. They're way different. I don't remember Iruka killing one of his closest friends or seeing the person he admired kill himself who happens to be his father after getting shunned by his comrades. Iruka only lost his parents. He lost once, Kakashi experienced such feelings many times. And expecting everyone to endure these kind of things the same is stupid. Not every human fonctions the same about this kind of matters.



Well he created the law which threatened every villager with execution basically. He isn't as cruel as Danzo but giving a threat like that doesn't seem that far fetched for Hiruzen.

How do you know Hiruzen came up with the idea and not Danzo?He can always influence people with his ideas and maybe manipulated the elders into agreeing with this law.

 

[KingHashirama]

Orochimaru was a threat to village. He was keeping Konoha which is Naruto's home as well safe by tracking his movements. So its not luck as you say, he could've simply ignored Akatsuki just because Orochimaru left it. But he didn't.

Because Akatsuki interested him, due to their objective.However, even though he knew about orochimaru he failed to take him out.. despite him being a threat (well he wasn't the only one, Itachi didn't kill Orochimaru either so eh doesn't matter)

Hiruzen was there for a reason. That man is hokage for a reason, he is the top dog of the village. What better enviroment could Jiraiya provide for Naruto that Hiruzen couldn't. He lived in an apartment of his own, no rent or bills. Hiruzen was providing everything for him. So Jiraiya had no reason to worry about Naruto's health, because as far as he know Hiruzen got that covered.

-sigh- you really don't know the life of an orphan if you think being called a monster in a village, and crying every night.. with nobody there for you. is going to be made up with apartment with no rents or bills. Hiruzen had the obligations to provide it.. Naruto was the Jinchuriki of the leaf, and son of the guy who protected Konoha. But i'm sure if you live in an apartment with no rent, don't know your family, don't know where you come from, don't have a friend.. that its gotta be a very good enviornment, yea?

Its not matter. Minato already seems not much suprised and realizig Hiruzen hid the truth to keep Naruto safe. What benefit were there is to tell Naruto his fathers ID. He was an attention seeking kid, he would've started yelling all around Konoha that his father was the hero 4th who saved the village soon. Hinata was almost kidnapped, Mizuki was almost killing Naruto. It would only put a death mark on Naruto's name.

Hiruzen hid the truth from Naruto, not others. And I never talked about Naruto knowing who his dad was.. but now that you mention it, every child has the right to know who his/her parents are.

@Bold, assuming anyone with a decent IQ didn't know about Naruto being related to Minato already.

-Kushina was pregnant
- Minato and Kushina die
- A newborn kid that day is made into a jinchuriki by Minato.
- the kid happens to have blonde hair

Now who could this new kid be? hmm someone minato kidnapped on spot? hmm

Comparing Iruka and Kakashi. They're way different. I don't remember Iruka killing one of his closest friends or seeing the person he admired kill himself who happens to be his father after getting shunned by his comrades. Iruka only lost his parents. He lost once, Kakashi experienced such feelings many times. And expecting everyone to endure these kind of things the same is stupid. Not every human fonctions the same about this kind of matters.

Oh so Kakashi didn't talk to anyone, is that what you are saying? Cause I recall him being in the anbu, and talking to people.... (since we are talking about anime here now) And then he was saving Yamato's people.. And then he became an instructor. He was still in grave depression where he couldn't talk to the most hated person in the village, who happened to be his Sensei's son?

@Bold, Kakashi did, he was already over it... yet he didn't talk to Naruto. You aren't putting up a good excuse for Kakashi here...

 

[maniaoqan]

Because Akatsuki interested him, due to their objective.However, even though he knew about orochimaru he failed to take him out.. despite him being a threat (well he wasn't the only one, Itachi didn't kill Orochimaru either so eh doesn't matter)

Akasuki interested him due to their objective which concerns Naruto's life..

-sigh- you really don't know the life of an orphan if you think being called a monster in a village, and crying every night.. with nobody there for you. is going to be made up with apartment with no rents or bills. Hiruzen had the obligations to provide it.. Naruto was the Jinchuriki of the leaf, and son of the guy who protected Konoha. But i'm sure if you live in an apartment with no rent, don't know your family, don't know where you come from, don't have a friend.. that its gotta be a very good enviornment, yea?

And how does that becomes Jiraiya's fault. It is Hiruzen's fault for failing to keep Kyuubi a secret. He had no trouble keeping Naruto's father a secret yet chose to share about Kyuubi because he hoped everyone would consider Naruto a hero. It was a mistake on Hiruzen's part, if he kept that secret as well Naruto would have the regular orphan life and have a chance to get adopted, having friends etc. Jiraiya went after Orochimaru thinking Hiruzen would handle Naruto, it was Hiruzen's failure not Jiraiya's.

Hiruzen hid the truth from Naruto, not others. And I never talked about Naruto knowing who his dad was.. but now that you mention it, every child has the right to know who his/her parents are.

Hiruzen hid Minato-Naruto relation a secret from everyone including Naruto. Only few people knew that. Villagers were aware of Kyuubi only because Hiruzen told them that believing people would consider Naruto a hero. Again not telling his parents was Hiruzen's decisions which was a right one considering how notorius Minato was. Kumo dared to kidnap Hyuuga's heiress just for the byakugan, what do you think they did with the child who is Minato's son and had the Kyuubi ?

@Bold, assuming anyone with a decent IQ didn't know about Naruto being related to Minato already.

-Kushina was pregnant
- Minato and Kushina die
- A newborn kid that day is made into a jinchuriki by Minato.
- the kid happens to have blonde hair

Now who could this new kid be? hmm someone minato kidnapped on spot? hmm

Sakura failed to make the connection, she seemed knowladgeable about hokages considering she recognized Hashirama's Mokuton and wondered how Yamato had that. So she obviously saw 4th's pictures.
Only people close to Kushina-Minato knew the truth, not the entire village. You're making a lot of assumptions.

Oh so Kakashi didn't talk to anyone, is that what you are saying? Cause I recall him being in the anbu, and talking to people.... (since we are talking about anime here now) And then he was saving Yamato's people.. And then he became an instructor. He was still in grave depression where he couldn't talk to the most hated person in the village, who happened to be his Sensei's son?

@Bold, Kakashi did, he was already over it... yet he didn't talk to Naruto. You aren't putting up a good excuse for Kakashi here...

ANBU isn't a therapy group incase you didn't get the memo. Stop with the fillers please. He always visiting their graves, living in the past it is obvious in the manga. Expecting everyone to have same mindset is a joke. There are many kind of people. There is a reason that psychology exists. There is a difference between being over it and hiding it.

How do you know Hiruzen came up with the idea and not Danzo?He can always influence people with his ideas and maybe manipulated the elders into agreeing with this law.

In the manga Hiruzen says I did it while talking with Iruka. Maybe he was under Danzo's influence maybe not, there isn't any other input regarding that subject in the manga.

 

[V h o]

Lol Jman was chasing tail, he aint got no time for some kid.

 

[Aznkidd]

You all look at the wrong way...
To ensure the safety of the village and his god son, he must be on the mission to gather intel and prevent danger to naruto.
When he learned that akatsuki has interest in Jinchuriki, he rustled back to village to protect Naruto.
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The list can go on, but if you find your happiness in bashing him, just do it, i wont bother anymore...

 

[Remedy]

In the beginning of the series everyone treated Naruto as a bothersome pest to empathize the loneliness and hardship of his character. As for Jman, his goals involved the stakes of Naruto's life, so not involving himself with him enitirely made sense. But Kakashi, It bothered me that he neglected Naruto over Sasuke, and tried to avoid any run ins with him out in public. When Minato died, you would think Kakashi would have felt some obligation to look after the only thing of his sensei left, more importantly being stronghold for Naruto during his younger years when he was being tormented and hated by the Village. More so how Shikamaru feels about Asuma's daughter, is what I think Kakashi could've felt about Naruto. Iruka was really the first one to come through for Naruto.

 

[InfiniteDream]

Indeed, J-man was just interested in boobs.

 

[RasenUchihaChaos]

Wow I have long ago mentioned how terrible of a godfather jman was same with kakashi towards naruto