Naruto TSO!
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What bait ? I'm telling the truth, solo by definition means no help from anybody... Naruto is getting help 24/7 by Kyubi... But then again not as bad as Part 1 Gaara who literally used Ichibi's power all the time and never used his own skill
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No no just you are not relevant enough for me to bring him upHe/she must be fodder for you not to mention them.
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Yet you're here talking to me despite you saying "goodbye troll". I must pretty relevant to you. :O
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The TSB are made out of chakra. They lose their effectiveness when they aren't in range of the user and deteriorate. It's natural to assume they'd reform after a while.
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The Rinnegan is a different example altogether.
Gudou Damas are activated passively. The mode is turned on, the TSBs appear. The mode is turned off, the TSBs disappear. Mastery won't change the fact that the user has no control over this process. So, unless TSBs require an ample amount of time to be restored, then he can't regain them.
Theoretically, with more chakra, Naruto could expand the orbs to larger sizes. He could also increase his versatility in their use. Perhaps he could use them more defensively in the form of shields, or maybe even the Sword of Nunoboko, though his avatar offers far better defense.
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That is just theory only with no concrete fact to say he cant changes them in the future.
We have seen how rapidly he changed the basic rasengan to greater form, and the basic rasengan is based on bijuu dama. So increase his TSBs and enlarge them is just matter of time. Unless kishi does some statement to put an end to it, otherwise he still has potential like sasuke.
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Kaguya made her own, that's enough to prove you can make goududamas. Hago originally had 4 TSB like Hamura but eventually gained 9. So yes, he can create TSB after he's mastered RSM
RSM is Rikudou Sage Mode, the reason Madara and Obito were never shown making their own TSB is because as Indra's transmigrants they can't control it as well as Kaguya and Hago, who Ashura descended from.
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Yeah, if it was so easy to regenerate them, then Naruto and Madara would have done so. Don't forget that Rikudou Sage Mode grants a supernatural mental state that allows for the "complete and universal comprehension of all things". Madara was able to use a Storm Release jutsu after awakening that mode just likely due to this ability. The same could be said of Naruto's seemingly innate knowledge of knowing Tobirama was going to send Sasuke to him via FTG. I'm pretty sure the ability to recreate TSBs would fall under this domain.
Hagoromo and Hamura each originally had 1 TSB [
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]. The only differing case is
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, where Hagoromo is shown with 2 TSBs. Hamura is later shown with at least
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in the movie DB, possibly due to the effect of awakening the Tenseigan which would have occurred after the fight with the Juubi as he wasn't shown with the characteristics of it in the manga. Hagoromo likely obtained 10 after the Juubi was sealed. The thing is, Naruto started out with 9 TSBs; there is no way to awaken a greater number as the fully realized mode was given to him. Sure he can master that mode to a greater extent, but the mode was already "complete" when he got it.Obito isn't even a transmigrant of Indra. Madara possessed Hashirama's cells, and his body upon absorbing the Juubi contained both Indra and Ashura's chakra; he had plenty of potential. This point falls flat when you realize Obito was more adept in the use of the TSBs than either Madara or Naruto.
Madara had plenty of time to recover the 9 TSBs he was missing when he was in the Kamui dimension; he recovered his lower body and took back his eye, yet didn't decide to recreate them despite his craving for power...
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Most of your claims are valid but I have to disagree. I know Naruto can't make more than 9 TSB but I doubt he will have 3 for the rest of his life, and isn't there a time limit for TSB to decay ? Imo 9 bijuu KKG are required to make TSB, Kaguya used the bijuus chakra to make hers and as non-Ashura transmigrants both Madara and Obito didn't have full control over the Juubi which is why they never used KKG elements like Naruto.
Obito also had the Shinju in him, he was the one that summoned it after all. Furthermore, Madara only has a piece of neck flesh as opposed to Obito who had half of his body replaced with Mokuton cells.
His mokuton essentially gave him better control over Ashura's half of Rikudou powers. This was proven when he mastered TSB usage yet couldn't handle the power of one Rinnegan, whereas Madara used double Rinnegan with ease but couldn't match Obito's skill with TSB.
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A time limit for TSB decay? If you're referring to
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, then it occurred because Madara was stripped of his chakra after being taken over by Kaguya (his eyes were blank and his Hashi face was gone). It caused the dissipation of his Six Paths Sage Mode (TSBs) and his
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. The same happened to Kaguya's massive TSB when the Six Paths Chibaku Tensei stripped her of her power (the bijuus).You're forgetting Kabuto's enhancements to Madara's body which he retained after his revival; those enhancements were greater than the crude implantation Madara himself performed, not to mention the cells Kabuto used were "much tinkered with". Yes, Madara didn't have more of Hashirama's DNA than Obito to begin with, but he also had far far more time for that chakra to integrate with his own.
Madara's control of Mokuton far surpasses that of Obito, even when Obito was being boosted by Spiral Zetsu. There would be no reason this would be true when Madara was stated to wield more of the Sage's power than Obito.