Why do people think CT is the Ultimate Jutsu?

[Venomous Cobra]

Proof?

This is what happened when the gravity started to effect itach,naruto and bee

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They're being pulled up

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yet nagato was still here when it all started

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The distance is extremely close


Just close this thread and save your self from this shame bruh....

 

[Gerkak]

its a more direct & powerful warp than kamui

crush him, it can cruch their dimension & even stop the user from getting there.
in a head to head, CT would essentially ''reiatsu crush'' a kamui attempt, something akin to sakura trying to punch hiashis air palm.
its not gonna jive



oxymoron.
no shinobi can ''deal'' w/ CT

It doesn't have a more powerful pull than kamui, look how easily kamui warps a bijuu and compare it to how long it takes for CT to pull a bijuu

Now you're just fanboying(can't tell if you're serious or not) but crush a dimension? seriously? Lol

Itachi, naruto and bee already deal with that jutsu

 

[super yang]

That doesn't address what I said about Itachi's Susanoo not shattering in the process. Him not trying to use a sword is irrelevant because of that.

I was responding to the Su. sword busting CT. I was saying it would shatter

That doesn't prove why PS can't destroy CT's core.

theres nothing to prove or disprove either way...

Especially if their sword slashes can create mountain range slicing slashes.

that's not relevant; mountains don't fight back, CT does

So then what?

So then, what is this ''Creation Of All Things''???

 

[Prestonyoko]

This is what happened when the gravity started to effect itach,naruto and bee

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They're being pulled up

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yet nagato was still here when it all started

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The distance is extremely close


Just close this thread and save your self from this shame bruh....

Shame? What do I have to b embarrassed about...?

Anyway it's clearly in black and white what is shown.

The moment they were getting pulled in they did however destroy it. So the Jutsu didn't even get to finish. When Pain finished his CT he wasn't under it, he way AWAY from it. Nowhere in its reach.

 

[Prestonyoko]

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Lol

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So you don't think the power the Sage gave to Sasuke had anything to do w this huh.

 

[super yang]

It doesn't have a more powerful pull than kamui, look how easily kamui warps a bijuu and compare it to how long it takes for CT to pull a bijuu.

of course it does. kamui is about utility & precision. CT is about priority & energy. a bijuu doesn't provide any ''counter force'' to resist kamui.
and kamui doesn't pull at all; it only phases statically, or opens & closes.

Now you're just fanboying(can't tell if you're serious or not) but crush a dimension? seriously? Lol

really? that's all? ok then..

Itachi, naruto and bee already deal with that jutsu

Gyuuki & Kurama dealt w/ it together & they aren't shinobi. I already addressed this too

 

[Venomous Cobra]

Shame? What do I have to b embarrassed about...?

Anyway it's clearly in black and white what is shown.

The moment they were getting pulled in they did however destroy it. So the Jutsu didn't even get to finish. When Pain finished his CT he wasn't under it, he way AWAY from it. Nowhere in its reach.

So the CT's gravity attraction depends on whether it's finished or not?

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[Xlad]

I was responding to the Su. sword busting CT. I was saying it would shatter

Except I was only talking about

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itself. Not

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theres nothing to prove or disprove either way...

Based on what?

that's not relevant; mountains don't fight back, CT does

What the hell? It doesn't matter if CT fights back. The core is only protected by collected and compacted rocks. If PS has

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, there is no reason why it wouldn't do that to the core and destory it.

Plus, CT attract its target by lifting the ground they stand on towards the core. Not even sure how you think its "fighting back."

So then, what is this ''Creation Of All Things''???

Creation of All Things is what Hagoromo used to create nine Tailed Beasts using Yin/Yang Release.

 

[Prestonyoko]

So the CT's gravity attraction depends on whether it's finished or not?

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Looks like your running out of arguments so your just quoting crap w a meme.

Typical.

 

[super yang]

Except I was only talking about Perfect Susanoo Sword itself. Not Itachi's Susanoo Sword

I don't belive that makes any difference

Based on what?

based on lack of info & varying interpretation....that's why we're discussing it~

What the hell? It doesn't matter if CT fights back. The core is only protected by collected and compacted rocks. If PS has enough power to slash like this[/URL], there is no reason why it wouldn't do that to the core and destory it.
Plus, CT attract its target by lifting the ground they stand on towards the core. Not even sure how you think its "fighting back."

there is a reason. its called priority. the same priority or force that levels villages & dango rolls crushed mountains, will be exerted on the sword.

and if it has already picked up rocks, then the likelihood increase that the sword will shatter, as it is understress when breaking them, while the core has a free window to begin to destabilize the chakra construct.

Creation of All Things is what Hagoromo used to create nine Tailed Beasts using Yin/Yang Release.

ok, so U want to compare bijuu creation, to Chibaku Tensei in terms of ''jutsu''?

 

[V h o]

It's not the ultimate technique, and the sage's CT is far stronger than anyone else's CT, since it has the power to seal dojutsu and possibly chakra.

 

[BenjerminGaye]

This is what happened when the gravity started to effect itach,naruto and bee

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They're being pulled up

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yet nagato was still here when it all started

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The distance is extremely close


Just close this thread and save your self from this shame bruh....

If nagato was in the effect area the ground where he's standing would be torn up. Just like before when pain did it.

 

[V h o]

Slightly off topic, but when has a user been hurt by their own technique (not including intentional attacks like Obito)?

 

[~Ethereal~]

Very interesting thread, I clicked on the link by someone that posted it in the premium chat. CT is ok, lol.

 

[Gerkak]

of course it does. kamui is about utility & precision. CT is about priority & energy. a bijuu doesn't provide any ''counter force'' to resist kamui.
and kamui doesn't pull at all; it only phases statically, or opens & closes.



really? that's all? ok then..

Gyuuki & Kurama dealt w/ it together & they aren't shinobi. I already addressed this too

Who says it doesn't pull, Kamui has an attractive pull like a whirlpool.

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It clearly pulls the target to the center of absorption, again like a whirlpool.

Bijuu don't have any counter force to resist CT either, but clearly takes much longer for CT to pull on a bijuu than it takes for kamui to absorb it.

Kamui is far from static when used in the opposite way i.e. is to release objects, the objects are released with various degrees of force in a centripetal fashion. This is shown thus

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Kamui is beyond CT

 

[super yang]

Who says it doesn't pull, Kamui has an attractive pull like a whirlpool.

no, that is artistic effect used to denote matter phasing between dimensions via intangible means

It clearly pulls the target to the center of absorption, again like a whirlpool.

if that was the case, it would pull from any range, negating the need 4 obito to touch U.
but we know this isn't the case, as kamui is Line-of-sight based. its ocular in nature

edit: or to say, if they were really being pulled as the art shows, their bodies & objects would be crushed

Bijuu don't have any counter force to resist CT either, but clearly takes much longer for CT to pull on a bijuu than it takes for kamui to absorb it.

again, kamui is a precise(ocular) S/T jutsu, CT is literally pulling mass w/ raw power

Kamui is far from static when used in the opposite way i.e. is to release objects, the objects are released with various degrees of force in a
Kamui is beyond CT

no, its the most static jutsu in the manga, after traditional kuchiyose.

 

[BlazeRelease]

If only Nagato had summons, flight and rocket boosters to get cover the distance :| Not to mention that was a half dead Nagato using it, a normal Nagato wouldn't need to take so much time.


CT used inside the chameleon is the ultimate troll Lol

No no no

Universal pull into the chameleons mouth. Or sneak attack soul steal.

 

[SatanicGod]

Okay clearly your one of the people in the base who likes to throw small jabs at ppl in there augments just to feel like your proving a point. But okay.

Since you don't understand. You seem like you can't get that if you use this Jutsu within its own range. You will get sucked in and killed.

What about Naruto and Sasuke? They used it on Kaguya point freakin blank and didn't get pulled in... I believe the user is able to make it so that they don't get affected by the pull of the CT core, just like how when a fire release user blows fire from their mouth, they don't get burned

 

[SatanicGod]

Slightly off topic, but when has a user been hurt by their own technique (not including intentional attacks like Obito)?

My point exactly...

 

[BenjerminGaye]

Slightly off topic, but when has a user been hurt by their own technique (not including intentional attacks like Obito)?

Well there's 8 gates, mutual suiside, frs, etc etc.