7th Gate Gai vs Ay and B

[Lariatoo]

Ay can solo. Bee can solo.

 

[KidGamer65]

Ay can solo. Bee can solo.

Lol....

Somebody please explain how anyone who actually reads the Manga can come to the conclusion that Ay or B w/o Bijuu Mode solos. There is literally no explanation you or anyone else can bring that'd make this claim not seem as dumb as it is tbh.

 

[neosmith500]

Lol....

Somebody please explain how anyone who actually reads the Manga can come to the conclusion that Ay or B w/o Bijuu Mode solos. There is literally no explanation you or anyone else can bring that'd make this claim not seem as dumb as it is tbh.

It seems they are under the notion that aye or b could pressure not only jj obito but also jj madara as gai did , which is laughable at best.

 

[KidGamer65]

It seems they are under the notion that aye or b could pressure not only jj obito but also jj madara as gai did , which is laughable at best.

Lmao, right. The difference in power between Ay or B w/o BM and Gai is ridiculous. How in the world does Ay beat someone who is AT LEAST as fast as he is, but with far superior CQC ability due to his striking speed and the fact that he can move at high speeds all the time due to Gates, and can use attacks that obliterate a V3 Susanoo? Doesn't make sense.

"Blitz" is literally the only argument that would even help, but since Gai is faster than Ay, and at the very least, fast enough to react to him, no blitz will ever happen. Ridiculous.

 

[neosmith500]

Lmao, right. The difference in power between Ay or B w/o BM and Gai is ridiculous. How in the world does Ay beat someone who is AT LEAST as fast as he is, but with far superior CQC ability due to his striking speed and the fact that he can move at high speeds all the time due to Gates, and can use attacks that obliterate a V3 Susanoo? Doesn't make sense.

"Blitz" is literally the only argument that would even help, but since Gai is faster than Ay, and at the very least, fast enough to react to him, no blitz will ever happen. Ridiculous.

Lmao , even edo madara was able to block/react to v2 aye's blitz if am not wrong , thats without hashi's SM lol.
Gai pressured JJ Madara for hecks sake! Yet people think aye or b with limitations could solo 7G gai Lol

I would love to see aye pressure live rinne SM madara Lol

 

[KidGamer65]

Lmao , even edo madara was able to block/react to v2 aye's blitz if am not wrong , thats without hashi's SM lol.
Gai pressured JJ Madara for hecks sake! Yet people think aye or b with limitations could solo 7G gai Lol

I would love to see aye pressure live rinne SM madara Lol

Yeah, I believe he did. Ay went on about needing to up his speed to break his guard. Wouldn't have said that if his top speed didn't fail.

But yeah. Ay soloing is nonsense. Same with B.

 

[Bronze]

Ay vs 7th Gate Gai maybe arguable, but Bee can solo this.

 

[Killua Zoldyck]

Not seeing how Gai wins S1, but ends up losing S2? What does V2 offer B that'd change the outcome of this match?

-Better durability? Useless since Gai can bust through the V2 cloak in both scenarios.

-Faster? Useless since he's still not as fast as Gai. The only one who can even think about matching Gai in raw speed is Ay, and even then he falls short, and then when we take Gai's Taijutsu prowess and striking and reaction speed into account, we can forget about Ay hanging with him in a close quarters confrontation. Dude would get punked....and Ay has better reactions and speed than B does, so if Ay doesn't stand a chance in CQC, B sure as hell doesn't either.

Gai wins both scenarios. Even if someone wants to try and argue that Gai can't use 2 Hirudora, (when he can) Gai doesn't need Hirudora to get through Ay's cloak. Chidori pierced it. Base Gai can smash boulders w/ no weapons I believe. 7G+a weapon and the speed to land a barrage of hits and he should be able to do damage to Ay eventually.

I am a bit rusty on my Naruto but last time I checked, breaking boulders was not put of this world. Ei can create a massive hole (Not so much in depth as in size) with a Liger Bomb despite the fact that the majority of the blow was absorbed by Susanoo. Breaking the ground like that is a handful of times harder then breaking a random boulder (even if the damage was equalized to boulder size) taking density into account. If I really wanted to get into calculations (which I don't) I would estimate that the energy required to do what Liger Bomb did is in the high double digit amount of times more then the energy required to break a random boulder. You could estimate how much Gates will improve his strength but I don't think he will hit that level of strength until the 6th Gate, and Ay was only in V1.

Also, comparing raw punches to a piercing attack like Chidori does not work. They function completely differently as far as putting damage on an opponent goes.

As for Hirudora, I think he can use it twice before running out of energy for gates. If he lands a direct hit with a Hirudora, he has got Ei and Bee beat, but the chances that he lands a direct hit on two speedsters like them (Even if he is likely faster then both in 7th Gate) is not so high and if he fails to land even one directly its GG. I gues it really depends on whether he can successfully land direct Hirudoras but I think he fails more times then not. The scenarios don't really change anything.

 

[KidGamer65]

I am a bit rusty on my Naruto but last time I checked, breaking boulders was not put of this world. Ei can create a massive hole (Not so much in depth as in size) with a Liger Bomb despite the fact that the majority of the blow was absorbed by Susanoo. Breaking the ground like that is a handful of times harder then breaking a random boulder (even if the damage was equalized to boulder size) taking density into account. If I really wanted to get into calculations (which I don't) I would estimate that the energy required to do what Liger Bomb did is in the high double digit amount of times more then the energy required to break a random boulder. You could estimate how much Gates will improve his strength but I don't think he will hit that level of strength until the 6th Gate, and Ay was only in V1.

Breaking a giant boulder by punching it is a great feat when you don't have any enhancements of any kind. Ay's Liger Bomb made that crater, while he was enhanced by his Raiton Chakra Mode. Base Ay definitely can't do that. And if Gai hits that level of power at the 6th Gate, he surpasses it at the 7th Gate, and that's more power than Chidori, and that's without the Nunchaku. Multiple, barraged hits from 7G Gai using a weapon spells the end of Gai.

V1 or V2 doesn't really matter. Ay's strength doesn't increase when he uses V2. Only the effect the Armor has on his synapses and his speed. He hits harder in V2 because usually he combines his physical hits with his top speed.

Also, comparing raw punches to a piercing attack like Chidori does not work. They function completely differently as far as putting damage on an opponent goes.

All that means is that Chidori is more focused towards one point. They don't function completely differently.

As for Hirudora, I think he can use it twice before running out of energy for gates. If he lands a direct hit with a Hirudora, he has got Ei and Bee beat, but the chances that he lands a direct hit on two speedsters like them (Even if he is likely faster then both in 7th Gate) is not so high and if he fails to land even one directly its GG. I gues it really depends on whether he can successfully land direct Hirudoras but I think he fails more times then not. The scenarios don't really change anything.

He got in Madara's face and managed to release Hirudora point blank. He'd do the same to either of these guys, and it's not really even needed to take out Ay.

 

[Haizaki]

The first panel shows Gais punch being stopped by the barrier. His fist never touched the rock, it met the barrier and the force reverberated through the barrier but he didn't say the barrier was the reason he couldn't break it so you can't assume that was the case because for all we know he could have needed to weakened it then hit it more.

Not entirely sure but I'm guessing his fist hit the rock and the barrier prevented him...Considering the Akatsuki said "It's getting fairly noisy out there"..Plus there's the fact that Sakura broke it and her strength was ranked below Base Gai at that point who had a 5

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There was every indication that he could especially given the impact made after he made the punch and his level of confidence approaching such a massive boulder.

The Pain the GM suffered could have been from Kakashi Raikiri Chain. Gai kicked its finger. I dobut it was screaming from that.

It's shown to scream right after Gai hit its Toe...Not Kakashi's chain (middle panel)

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Shattering rocks isn't great when some people get hit and the force from that hit made them shatter rocks upon impact with said rock and their body. Anyway, Base Gai was canonically overpowered easily by Kisame body double so yeah, its nothing miraculous.

There's a difference when it comes to actually shattering the rocks themselves with their fists..You're referring to the fact that a said force applied to them causes them to break something but that's irrelevant.

If it wasn't special, Kishi shouldn't be referring to his body as steel like used to shatter risk when it's only a normal thing.

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Gai blocking with this little chain like thing against such now compares their strength right? Gai's scenario is obviously different even though he managed to even that out for a while till he was punched.

 

[LuckyMan]

Yeah, I believe he did. Ay went on about needing to up his speed to break his guard. Wouldn't have said that if his top speed didn't fail.

But yeah. Ay soloing is nonsense. Same with B.

Then you're believing wrong. His comment on needing to up his speed just meant he needed to use V2 to increase the power of his attack. He was buying time like Tsunade requested so she could heal Onoki and Gaara though that doesn't mean he wasn't using max power, but his statement and the difference between V1 and V2 proves he only used V1.

You already know V1 Ay doesn't look different besides the armor around him but each time V2 Ay was drawn, the defining change was his hair spiking up like a super sayian.

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When he attacked Madara it showed he was only in V1

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Anyway, it makes no sense that he'd try to punch blitz in V2, fail, then chop blitz right after with V1, and say he needs more speed and the odds of Kishi making a drawing error if someone claims its a drawing error is so low its laughable when each time A went V2 he always distinguished the change.

 

[Beans2]

Ay vs 7th Gate Gai maybe arguable, but Bee can solo this.

How?
Gai is faster than both and hirudora GG. Gai can solo Kumo tbh hirudora kills everyone. ​

 

[Conspirator.]

Gai wins both scenarios.

 

[Sublime Green Beast]

What can they do against the almighty here? Lol

Gai can use multiple Hirudora. He was able to throw one at JJ Madara and wasn't nearly in the bad condition as he was in last time he did it. After using the technique he was incapacitated briefly, had a short resting period, showed no signs of physical exhaustion and still had enough stamina to use both Moth and Elephant.

He doesn't need more then one honestly. Bee (the more durable of the two) takes a point blank Hirudora and Ay receives the backlash of the AoE which effectively strips him of his armor and incapacitates, if not killing him entirely. Neither of them can stop this from happening either. This happens after the two of them getting knocked around and manhandled in taijutsu for a bit, so I'll give this mid diff for Gai

Gai takes both.

 

[Draegod]

Not entirely sure but I'm guessing his fist hit the rock and the barrier prevented him...Considering the Akatsuki said "It's getting fairly noisy out there"..Plus there's the fact that Sakura broke it and her strength was ranked below Base Gai at that point who had a 5

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There was every indication that he could especially given the impact made after he made the punch and his level of confidence approaching such a massive boulder.



It's shown to scream right after Gai hit its Toe...Not Kakashi's chain (middle panel)

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There's a difference when it comes to actually shattering the rocks themselves with their fists..You're referring to the fact that a said force applied to them causes them to break something but that's irrelevant.

If it wasn't special, Kishi shouldn't be referring to his body as steel like used to shatter risk when it's only a normal thing.

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Gai blocking with this little chain like thing against such now compares their strength right? Gai's scenario is obviously different even though he managed to even that out for a while till he was punched.

Shattering Rocks isn't a great comparison when Both aye and Bee are greatly more durable then Rocks. Yes Guy is strong, but so are both Aye and Bee. Aye would never get hit with Hindura while Bee would just heal with Sama. And While Guy has them beat in pure skills they wont go down with standard blows. Guys 6th Gate Blows cannonly did nothing to V2 Jins. It's 7th gate Hindura or Bus.

 

[KingHashirama]

@Blind wank on Gai, when he could barely take on Kisame with his 7th gate. :|

How?
Gai is faster than both and hirudora GG. Gai can solo Kumo tbh hirudora kills everyone. ​

Same killer B who as a Kid, reacted to Minato's FTG ?

Same Ay, who has the speed to match FTG's (as long as he knows where the kunais are at of course) pop up speed?

 

[KidGamer65]

@Blind wank on Gai, when he could barely take on Kisame with his 7th gate. :|

The stupidity is strong with the bold.

 

[KingHashirama]

The stupidity is strong with the bold.

Read the manga before claiming stupidity. Only reply to me when you are done blindly wanking on Gai, and are actually paying attention to the events in the manga.

Unless Gai is going to use all his 7th gate power in 1 attack, like he did here.. then he has a possibility of getting lucky, and if any of them survive, hes dead meat.

This is the overwanked Gai you wanking on right?

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[KidGamer65]

Read the manga before claiming stupidity. Only reply to me when you are done blindly wanking on Gai, and are actually paying attention to the events in the manga.

-Claims that Gai barely beat Kisame.
-Gai actually destroyed him once he entered the 7th Gate.
-Tells me to read the Manga.

Lol. The irony is strong with this one. When you can actually add anything intelligent to what's been posted, only then can we cry about people wanking.

 

[KingHashirama]

-Claims that Gai barely beat Kisame.
-Gai actually destroyed him once he entered the 7th Gate.
-Tells me to read the Manga.

Lol. The irony is strong with this one. When you can actually add anything intelligent to what's been posted, only then can we cry about people wanking.

You needed to say it again, for you to understand i told you to read the manga?

And yes barely beat. Go look at his condition after he beat Kisame. rofl. F*cking trashed out and paining all over. In which retard's dictionary is that "destroying" an opponent?

And considering the fact this was only a Kisame who had no samehada and had no fusion.

@Bold, you can do that if you want. But calling out a wank =/= crying about it. rofl.