Reason why hashirama always beat madara in the past

[Rohan]

The amount of nonsense in this post... Your argument is irrelevant, the fact that the Juubi has a Sharinnegan and Uchihas got the Sharingan is irrelevant.

Once again, if you paid attention, the Uchiha Three Tomoed Sharingan, Sasuke's Six Tomoed Rinnegan and Kaguya's Nine Tomoed Rinnesharingan are Duplicates/Connected to each other. The only difference is the number of Tomoes.

 

[Amaterasu]

irrelevant huh?, where do you think uchihas got the sharingan from?

Well, it's a KKG (Indra got it from his father), but it is still irrelevant, the Sharingan still can make powerful jutsus like Perfect Susanoo or Kamui.
Your argument is too rough. Re-read what you wrote.

Once again, if you paid attention, the Uchiha Three Tomoed Sharingan, Sasuke's Six Tomoed Rinnegan and Kaguya's Nine Tomoed Rinnesharingan are Duplicates/Connected to each other. The only difference is the number of Tomoes.

Yeah, ok, so what ? read what I said above. Don't know if you were trying to counter me tho'.

 

[Limbo]

Once again, if you paid attention, the Uchiha Three Tomoed Sharingan, Sasuke's Six Tomoed Rinnegan and Kaguya's Nine Tomoed Rinnesharingan are Duplicates/Connected to each other. The only difference is the number of Tomoes.

An Sasuke's is purple unlike the other two.

 

[minamoto]

Let's be real, EMS Madara get mid-high diffed by Hashirama...

Rinnegan Madara negs anybody that doesn't have Rikudo Chakra.

but Madara faked his death...the fight itself didnt matter madara ..his goal with the hashirama dna bro...he didn't fight with all his best....

 

[Rohan]

An Sasuke's is purple unlike the other two.

The Mangekyo Sharingan in the Manga has 20 Different Designs. Going by your logic, they all are 20 Unique Doujutsus ?

What matters is the base design. A few variations don't matter.

All the three tomoe doujutsus I mentioned above are heavily connected with each other.

 

[New Dawn]

As we know madara is a descendant of indra and hashirama a descendant of ashura and they were meant to fight to death.
But why madara always seem to lose to hashirama in the past?

The reason is very simple, the descendants of indra have the sharingan which is a less powerful version of the sharinnegan of the juubi while hashirama inherited the wood style and senjutsu which are techniques of the same level of the juubi.

So in conclusion madara always lost because his sharingan/MS is a degraded version of the juubi eye while the wood style was still wood style with or without the juubi for hashirama, there's a reason why hashirama could use the wood dragon which is a technique of the holy tree, the techniques of hashirama were at a smaller scale but the complexity of the jutsu stayed the same so it's only logical the one with the powers closer to the juubi wins.

Note:I am not a madara fanboy, i just thought this made sense.

The real reason why madara always lost was because he was a stupid ass.

He was fighting a wood user ffs. Not once did I see that dummy use fire jutsus which the Uchiha are most famous for.

 

[Angelic.]

If you paid attention to the small details in the manga, you would realize that the OP is right.

1) Hashirama's Wood Release is a variant/is very similar to the God Tree's power.

2) Hashirama's Wood Dragons and God Tree Dragons are exact duplicates.

3) Hashirama's DNA was the perfect catalyst for creation of White Zetsus which in thier base form are trees.

Hashirama's Wood Release is heavily connected to the God Tree/Juubi. We just don't know why and how yet.

this. the shinju is just bigger. the sharingan came from indra who came from hago who was born from kaguya. its a lesser tier plain and simple

 

[maniaoqan]

Madara was the cool loking guy. So in order to even the odds between the two, he had to lose.

 

[Limbo]

The Mangekyo Sharingan in the Manga has 20 Different Designs. Going by your logic, they all are 20 Unique Doujutsus ?

What matters is the base design. A few variations don't matter.

All the three tomoe doujutsus I mentioned above are heavily connected with each other.

I didn't say that they are unique... i just pointed out that his rinnegan is purple unlike the other two, get that stick outta ur a$$

 

[Demonic.]

Hashirama is above any form of Madara bar Rikudo chakra/Juubi jin.

 

[Rohan]

Yeah, ok, so what ? read what I said above. Don't know if you were trying to counter me tho'.

the fact that the Juubi has a Sharinnegan and Uchihas got the Sharingan is irrelevant.

It is relevant, the same design is proof that The Sharingan is a Yin Power and originated from Kaguya's Nine Tomoed RinneSharingan. This Sharingan was inherited by Indra and the Uchihas, who had the Moon/Yin legacy.

It just watered down the generations.

Nine Tomoed Rinnesharigan -> Six Tomoed Rinnegan -> Three Tomoed Sharingan.

Just trying to clarify that.

 

[Amaterasu]

It is relevant, the same design is proof that The Sharingan is a Yin Power and originated from Kaguya's Nine Tomoed RinneSharingan. This Sharingan was inherited by Indra and the Uchihas, who had the Moon/Yin legacy.

It just watered down the generations.

Nine Tomoed Rinnesharigan -> Six Tomoed Rinnegan -> Three Tomoed Sharingan.

Just trying to clarify that.

It is irrelevant to what the OP said, the Uchihas aren't lesser given. At the start, there was RSM

RSM -> SM.

 

[Rohan]

I didn't say that they are unique... i just pointed out that his rinnegan is purple unlike the other two, get that stick outta ur a$$

# Can't counter me.
# Resorts to name calling.
So Classy. Lol

If the color has no relevance here, why mention it at all ? You mentioned it to get a point across that the the Six Tomoed Rinnegan is not connected to the Sharingan while the manga show otherwise.

 

[legarcon]

It is irrelevant to what the OP said, the Uchihas aren't lesser given. At the start, there was RSM

RSM -> SM.

my point is that the sharingan is related to the juubi in a lesser grade than wood stye and senjutsu of hashirama

 

[Aznkidd]

The real reason why madara always lost was because he was a stupid ass.

He was fighting a wood user ffs. Not once did I see that dummy use fire jutsus which the Uchiha are most famous for.

Fire is not burn fast enough vs tree growing by life chakra.

 

[Senpou]

I would say hashirama's chakra is much more potent in quality and larger in quantity wise Lol.

 

[Transcendence]

Madara negged hashirama tho in the war. That was because madara didn't fight hashirama at his full pontential which is the rinnegan.

By that logic, Hashirama's full potential is also the Rin'negan, should he decide to take Madara's chakra. Without Hashirama, Madara doesn't have the Rin'negan.

OT: He's simply more powerful.

 

[Limbo]

# Can't counter me.
# Resorts to name calling.
So Classy. Lol

If the color has no relevance here, why mention it at all ? You mentioned it to get a point across that the the Six Tomoed Rinnegan is not connected to the Sharingan while the manga show otherwise.

im not having an argument lmao, i am agreeing with you, im just saying that they have different colors, why are you getting so upset? lmao

 

[Senpou]

By that logic, Hashirama's full potential is also the Rin'negan, should he decide to take Madara's chakra. Without Hashirama, Madara doesn't have the Rin'negan.

OT: He's simply more powerful.

Imagine Hashirama with rinnegan, he wouldn't even need madara's face on his chest to surpass alive DR Madara while the latter needed to :leaf:

 

[Rohan]

im not having an argument lmao, i am agreeing with you, im just saying that they have different colors, why are you getting so upset? lmao

Ok, I see; but my point is you should not insult others cause it makes them feel bad and also makes them think you have lost your mind. Lol

Anyways, gotta go now, but remember this very well.

Lord Sasuke > Faildara.

Ty for reading and Lord Sasuke solos.