3T Itachi vs. Akatsuki

[Zexion~]

Kakuzu's elements are B-rank so they are not as threatening as you guys put it. Itachi wins even with 0T.

B rank but used by a mastery of the respective elements they're potency increases

 

[New Dawn]

B rank but used by a mastery of the respective elements they're potency increases

do you consider A-rank stronger than B rank jutsus?

 

[QdonEms]

Are you guys ****ing serious??? Only konan?? No he shits on all of those clowns, only way they even stand a chance is if they all team on itachi.

Itachi shits on konan rather easy.

He already negged deidara and im sure if sasuke beat him itachi will have no problem.

Itachi isnt losing to a guy who lost to sakura + Flying thunder crow & kunai stab is GG.

Itachi uses genjutsu and makes kakuzu kill himself.

 

[Zexion~]

do you consider A-rank stronger than B rank jutsus?

:| What? No not necessarily

I consider Sasuke's use of chidori ( his mastery allows for the variants) more deadly than Kaksahi's raikiri usage.

 

[Ghost in the Shell]

I agree with FT against Kakuzu since Itachi could most likely destroy the masks through his shuriken katon flow or he could just copy Katon: Zukkoku. Don't see how the masks get him out of genjutsu. The other ones (barring Konan), I'm not so sure about.

I'm also adding Orochimaru with his part 1 body and all of his applicable part 2 feats (Hydra restricted).

 

[Zexion~]

I agree with FT against Kakuzu since Itachi could most likely destroy the masks through his shuriken katon flow or he could just copy Katon: Zukkoku. Don't see how the masks get him out of genjutsu. The other ones (barring Konan), I'm not so sure about.

I'm also adding Orochimaru with his part 1 body and all of his applicable part 2 feats (Hydra restricted).

Shurikan...really :| The masks can move you know my man Lol. He can't copy the jutsu as he hasn't mastered the nature and to use the jutsu as Kakuzu does you need mastery. As for the rest i'll just counter FT when he posts

 

[Ghost in the Shell]

Shurikan...really :| The masks can move you know my man Lol. He can't copy the jutsu as he hasn't mastered the nature and to use the jutsu as Kakuzu does you need mastery. As for the rest i'll just counter FT when he posts

Yeah they can but they haven't displayed enough speed feats to get me to believe that they can dodge them at close range. Bee elected to turn his arm to the Hachibi's at short range instead of dodging them and obviously Base Bee is way faster than those masks. Katon: Zukkoku isn't a jutsu that Itachi can't copy because there's no inherent property that the jutsu has that would disallow Itachi from copying it, and not having mastery of katon isn't going to impede him. It never has to a sharingan user. Kakashi isn't a suiton master but he copied Water Dragon Bullet from Zabuza just fine.

 

[Zexion~]

Yeah they can but they haven't displayed enough speed feats to get me to believe that they can dodge them at close range. Bee elected to turn his arm to the Hachibi's at short range instead of dodging them and obviously Base Bee is way faster than those masks. Katon: Zukkoku isn't a jutsu that Itachi can't copy because there's no inherent property that the jutsu has that would disallow Itachi from copying it, and not having mastery of katon isn't going to impede him. It never has to a sharingan user. Kakashi isn't a suiton master but he copied Water Dragon Bullet from Zabuza just fine.

Uhm not just fine, he copied the 45 hand seal version mastery is using it without handeals I think the DB even states that.

Katon most certainly does have a property its a fire ball that needs to be dropped on the ground before it explodes into a massive fire storm I don't really see that happening from Itachi. I mean the fact that Kakashi didn't even attempt to copy any of these while stating they all require mastery of the elements is kinda a given.

Bee used his arm as evading them would kill his flow in battle...as it would any shinobi tanking is always better then avoiding as it puts you on the defensive. The masks merely need to move less then 6 inches for the shurikan to fly harmlessly through the threaded body. But i'd rather just counter FT's' massive wall of text and insults if he ever posts back my man XD

Also If Itachi goes close range to these masks why won't they be using jutsu?

 

[Ghost in the Shell]

Uhm not just fine, he copied the 45 hand seal version mastery is using it without handeals I think the DB even states that. Katon most certainly does have a property its a fire ball that needs to be dropped on the ground before it explodes into a massive fire storm I don't really see that happening from Itachi. I mean the fact that Kakashi didn't even attempt to copy any of these while stating they all require mastery of the elements is kinda a given.

Well I think you're overrating the range and scale of the jutsu, and he copied it just fine without being a suiton master whereas your claim was that Itachi wouldn't be able to copy Katon Zukkoku because he's not a katon master. Mei is a suiton master and she needs to form 3 hand seals to use it. Kakashi doesn't have fuuton or katon (or didn't have it at the time since apparently he has all 5 elements in the DB4) so that's why he couldn't copy those jutsus.

 

[Zexion~]

Well I think you're overrating the range and scale of the jutsu, and he copied it just fine without being a suiton master whereas your claim was that Itachi wouldn't be able to copy Katon Zukkoku because he's not a katon master. Mei is a suiton master and she needs to form 3 hand seals to use it. Kakashi doesn't have fuuton or katon (or didn't have it at the time since apparently he has all 5 elements in the DB4) so that's why he couldn't copy those jutsus.

Range and Scale? How so? I've stated Itachi can dodge them Lol what more do you want? You don't need to be a master to copy jutsu you need to be a master to copy MASTERY jutsu. I mean Zukkoku is his weakest attack anyways so Itachi copying it doesnt mean much as he has no counter for combination if it ever gets that far

Also 3<44 my man

 

[Ghost in the Shell]

Range and Scale? How so? I've stated Itachi can dodge them Lol what more do you want? You don't need to be a master to copy jutsu you need to be a master to copy MASTERY jutsu. I mean Zukkoku is his weakest attack anyways so Itachi copying it doesnt mean much as he has no counter for combination if it ever gets that far

Also 3<44 my man

Zukkoku isn't a "mastery" jutsu that Itachi can't copy, that's what I'm saying. A "mastery" jutsu would be an S-Rank or A-Rank technique.

 

[Zexion~]

Zukkoku isn't a "mastery" jutsu that Itachi can't copy, that's what I'm saying. A "mastery" jutsu would be an S-Rank or A-Rank technique.

What? Not necessarily true having mastery over the jutsu can indeed increase the potency of an attack as stated in the DB for the fuuton element.

These are most likely the jutsu used in their basic forms

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Copying was dropped in part one last jutsu to be copied was Kisame's water shark. So there isn't much information on its limits and what not.

 

[Forbidden Technique]

While he's back peddling Kakuzu then uses Katon into the already present fuuton (the mask isn't still casting the jutsu however) causing an explosion of flame that would reach farther than the fuuton (as that fuuton's air is accelerating the flame, so it would burst past the fuutons normal range and engulf Itachi.

Also he can't see it coming as he sphere of wind is blocking his sight, assuming of course he can back pedal something this massive

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created in a single scan, which already is a bit sketch, as the jutsu works by:

-First blowing out the wind needed for the jutsu

-Then if the user has mastery over the fuuton element, it explodes (explosions are nigh instant) over the area that forms the large sphere

Oh yeah this is stated in the DB by the way so don't think im making it up

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Using his Katon mask into the already dissipating air blast would be naturally weaker then when he combined the two attacks simultaneously. It's a good thing that Itachi has suiton to counter the burst of flames in a similar fashion as Kakashi did, or alternatively he gracefully avoids it like so;

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I don't know what you find so sketchy about Itachi back peddling an attack that Kakashi avoided from point blank range...? With the sharingan, he will see through it and already have a head start on it. And the further away it is fired, the more amount of time Itachi has before it even reaches him. Given these three factors, added with Itachi's incredible speed, there is absolutely nothing sketchy about it.

Didn't know Kakuzu used his jutsu against Naruto? If he creates clones they get encompassed by the jutsu when its used. Period.

Fuuton was used in the complete opposite direction,Kakashi halted the one attack that was actually directed towards them, actually no Naruto blocked the second which would have wiped all three of them out with its massive range Lol Katon was used from what? 30 meters away

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and the force still struck all of them

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Again, he got bunshin feinted not once, but twice; by a less proficient, less intelligent, much slower bunshin user in Naruto. Itachi succesfully accomplishes this with ease. Nah, they don't get encompassed by Kakuzu's slow moving jutsu. Ino, Chouji, and Shikamaru were capable of completely avoiding his katon as shown in the scans you provided. Whatever force you speak of isn't going to knock a bunshin out. Fuuton get's avoided, as Kakashi did from point blank; or if it gradually get's to widescaled, Itachi and his bunshins back pedal it. What are you not understanding here? Also, if Itachi and his bunshin(s) are near each other, and Kakuzu attempts at a fuuton-Katon combo, then Itachi counters it by copying the fuuton (He has wind nature affinity) and combining it with his very own suiton to neutralize it like Naruto and Yamato did [

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This is all me allowing Itachi to be put on the defensive by the way. Itachi's jutsu exection and speed is far faster then Kakuzu's, so I highly doubt he'd ever allow to be put under this scenario.

Kakashi was already in the area from jumping around the Fuuton

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But yes Itachi can avoid it but what stops him from getting blasted by the fuuton while he's in the process of avoiding it? Don't tell me while side-stepping another attack (it would have to be a decent side step as he can create another bolts if need be with a wider gap in-between) he's going to all of a sudden be able to side step the fuuton?

Thus the basic theory of how Kakuzu fights. Merely overwhelming the opponent with simultaneous jutsu attacks. He wanted Kakashi's heart hence why he was trying to provide Hidan the opening to take him down, instead of merely obliterating him with jutsu.

And what happens if it turns out that what Kakuzu has been aiming at the entire time has been a clone...? What happens if a clone or the real Itachi is aiming at destroying the fuuton mask while it's aiming at the other...? You're putting Itachi in very unlikely worst case scenarios that would never occur given Itachi's battle intelligence. With the use of bunshins, Itachi will be picking off those slow masks one by one.

Except after seeing the genjutsu only once Deidara was able to counter sharingan genjutsu with ease, people overrate the **** out of basic genjutsu so don't say shit about underrating Itachi like you did below. It's you who doesn't quite know how genjutsu work its quite easy to see through, especially with 92 years of experience and an average/above average score in genjutsu by the DB. People seem to think everything is Tsukuyomi, 3T genjutsu doesn't trap anything in another reality or what have you. What actually happens can still be seen the minute Itachi attacks anything or anyone Kakuzu can still see it. If at all Kakuzu notices that he's in a genjutsu all he has to do is disturb his chakra flow which any basic Shinobi can do.

Show me a scan of Itachi actually using genjutsu for an offensive purpose? That's right its not there, he uses it to re-direct opponents attack fire and perception but please don't go thinking he's going to use it to destroy all the hearts. Kakuzu has the highest battle experience in the manga, just like Chiyo knew the counters of Genjutsu. A few crow clone genjutsu? Sure but trapping Kakuzu in anything for longer than seconds is nothing but overrating of a less then useful technique Lol foh

Please don't make me get scans for any of this as its basic knowledge for non Itachi wankers.

So because Deidara, who specifically trained in seeing through sharingan genjutsu, was able to see through a less proficient sharingan genjutsu user equates to Kakuzu how...? Danzo, with 70 something years of experience under his belt, and whole lot more direct experience with the sharingan was unknowingly placed under a weak genjutsu [

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]. So what exactly is your point? If Itachi doesn't make it blatantly obvious, Kakuzu will not realize he has fallen under genjutsu before Itachi capatilizes on it. And as I thought, you're missinformed regarding genjutsu. Once caught in genjutsu, what the opponent sees is entirely up to the user. Even a finger genjutsu is capable of altering reality in ones mind [

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When did I ever state that he's going to use genjutsu offensively destroy the hearts? Itachi can alter Kakuzu's perception so that he'd force the masks to attack each other, attack Kakuzu himself, etc. Even if it is for a few seconds... Itachi will capitilize on that.

Underrating Itachi? Lol funny joke due the fact that you give him a chance at all, when he needed MS to defeat part one Kakashi.

That was a general statement. Don't start talking stupid now please.

 

[Zexion~]

All that tough talk of yours is mostly false and subjective thinking will counter tommorow after school Lol whether you like it or not

 

[Ghost in the Shell]

3T Itachi is already on Hashirama's level. Let alone MS.

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[Lost Zeal]

Are you guys ****ing serious??? Only konan?? No he shits on all of those clowns, only way they even stand a chance is if they all team on itachi.

Itachi shits on konan rather easy.

He already negged deidara and im sure if sasuke beat him itachi will have no problem.

Itachi isnt losing to a guy who lost to sakura + Flying thunder crow & kunai stab is GG.

Itachi uses genjutsu and makes kakuzu kill himself.

Most logical post here

 

[DeviantArt]

Are you guys ****ing serious??? Only konan?? No he shits on all of those clowns, only way they even stand a chance is if they all team on itachi.

No, they lol diff Itachi 4v1. Agreed with the rest though.

3T Itachi is already on Hashirama's level. Let alone MS.

Nah fam. Itachi can defeat Hashirama but that's an entirely different thing than being on his level.

@The rest of you: Itachi loses to none. I want to sell whatever the hell it is ya'll smoke.