How would healthy 3T Itachi fare against the lower half of the Akatsuki? Healthy meaning that he won't be coughing up blood, his stamina and reserves get a boost, and his speed and reactions are boosted up to Edo Itachi's level.
- vs. Konan
- vs. Sasori
- vs. Kakuzu
- vs. Deidara
- vs. Orochimaru with part 1 body and all applicable part 2 feats like his curse seal, sanjuu rashoumon, etc.
Stipulations: Manga intel, open field, reasonable starting distance, C0 and the Hydra are restricted.
If this is in character, I can only see him beating Konan (IC as in relying on Genjutsu in most of his fights the way he does). She would succumb the same way she did against Obito, just without the massive prep to kill Itachi. Sasori is immune to Genjutsu and while Itachi should be able to dodge Satetsu for long enough, he doesn't have Genjutsu to rely on as a crutch here, nor does he have a wide variety of elemental attacks like Hebi Sasuke would in this situation, which would allow Sasuke to cut Sasori down. This match-up is 50-50, just given how fast Itachi is, I don't see Sasori touching him at all, but at the same time, Itachi doesn't have much to touch Sasori at all, and it would be a battle of attrition. Kakuzu wins without much harm in my opinion. Nothing in Itachi's arsenal (3T that is) is denting Domu, and Itachi has nothing like Susano'o to tank an onslaught from multiple masks using elemental attacks. Deidara simply flies out of the range of Genjutsu (not to mention the resistance he trained himself for) and rains down on Itachi. No Susano'o means no delaying the inevitable.
His fight with Deidara solely depends on Deidaras course of action. C1 & and his slow C2 dragon execution will never get the job done. Only way I see him winning is with a large starting distance that would allow Deidara to safely take flight and maintain a high altitude while Deidara C3 nukes or uses C4. Any slip up results in Deidaras demise.
Sasori, again depends on the starting distance. His best and only chance is to successfully get out all of the IS, and suspend himself into the air with it - which would depend upon a large starting distance. Highly doubt Sasori would be capable of tracking Itachi's shunshin movements, but Itachi would be incapable of getting through any IS defenses. Obviously more factors too it, but I see it as a toss up.
In Kakuzu's case, I actually see Itachi pulling it off. 3T Kakashi was able to see through his masks attacks, and avoided his widest scale attack from point blank range; as well as jumping in front of raton gian out of no where and cancelling it out. I see Itachi doing the very same and avoiding all of Kakuzus efforts with the combination of bunshin feints. True, Itachi can't pierce through Domu, but that doesn't grant him any immunity to genjutsu. Itachi takes this one imo.
In Kakuzu's case, I actually see Itachi pulling it off. 3T Kakashi was able to see through his masks attacks, and avoided his widest scale attack from point blank range;
Point blank range makes it easier to avoid though? Different from avoiding in the middle which means longer distance to cover to avoid the blast.
as well as jumping in front of raton gian out of no where and cancelling it out. I see Itachi doing the very same and avoiding all of Kakuzus efforts with the combination of bunshin feints.
Bunshin feints how does he feint against an opponent who's jutsu would encompass them all anyways? Fuuton Katon combo takes him out if it gets that far but a raiton gian used from a closer range than V.S Shikamaru and Itachi isn't avoiding that Lol ... People seem to forget that less distance equals less time.
, Itachi can't pierce through Domu, but that doesn't grant him any immunity to genjutsu. Itachi takes this one imo
You said it yourself within the bolded below. Point blank range attacks are harder to react to and avoid. Itachi would see it coming before it's even fired, and would only need to simply back peddle that fuuton attack until it dissipates if it's used from a long-range and too widescaled to avoid.
Bunshin feints how does he feint against an opponent who's jutsu would encompass them all anyways? Fuuton Katon combo takes him out if it gets that far but a raiton gian used from a closer range than V.S Shikamaru and Itachi isn't avoiding that Lol ... People seem to forget that less distance equals less time.
The same way Naruto did twice? Only Itachi is even more proficient at bunshin feinting then that Naruto and tiers faster. The AoE of his attacks aren't anywhere close to what you're suggesting. Ino and Chouji never got encompassed by his attacks despite being on the battlefield. Raiton Gian was literally point blank range away from hitting Shikmaru and Chouji, yet Kakashi came out of nowhere and intercepted it with a very small window of time. It gets side stepped every single time in front of Itachi.
Hearts still function, I'm pretty sure having a threaded being insert itself into your body is enough pain to cancel out a genjutusu Lol
Not like you'll ever reply anyways as you just post your opinion and believe you're right all the time
Are you unware how genjutsu works? Unless purposely made obvious by Itachi, Kakuzu will never even know he's under genjutsu. He will be controlling the masks based on the illusions he is seeing. The masks aren't sensors and will not know that Kakuzu is under genjutsu, and neither will they freely come to his aid because he isn't dead. Even if they did, Itachi will destroy them as they make their way towards Kakuzu. During this time, Itachi can capatilize on disposing of the masks and then Kakuzu, depending on how long it takes for Kakuzu to realize he's under genjutsu.
Underrating Itachi has been getting out of hand. It's like no one knows what he's capable of anymore.
You said it yourself within the bolded below. Point blank range attacks are harder to react to and avoid. Itachi would see it coming before it's even fired, and would only need to simply back peddle that fuuton attack until it dissipates if it's used from a long-range and too widescaled to avoid.
While he's back peddling Kakuzu then uses Katon into the already present fuuton (the mask isn't still casting the jutsu however) causing an explosion of flame that would reach farther than the fuuton (as that fuuton's air is accelerating the flame, so it would burst past the fuutons normal range and engulf Itachi.
Also he can't see it coming as he sphere of wind is blocking his sight, assuming of course he can back pedal something this massive
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created in a single scan, which already is a bit sketch, as the jutsu works by:
-First blowing out the wind needed for the jutsu
-Then if the user has mastery over the fuuton element, it explodes (explosions are nigh instant) over the area that forms the large sphere
Oh yeah this is stated in the DB by the way so don't think im making it up
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The same way Naruto did twice? Only Itachi is even more proficient at bunshin feinting then that Naruto and tiers faster.
Didn't know Kakuzu used his jutsu against Naruto? If he creates clones they get encompassed by the jutsu when its used. Period.
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he AoE of his attacks aren't anywhere close to what you're suggesting. Ino and Chouji never got encompassed by his attacks despite being on the battlefield.
Fuuton was used in the complete opposite direction,Kakashi halted the one attack that was actually directed towards them, actually no Naruto blocked the second which would have wiped all three of them out with its massive range Lol Katon was used from what? 30 meters away
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and the force still struck all of them
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Raiton Gian was literally point blank range away from hitting Shikmaru and Chouji, yet Kakashi came out of nowhere and intercepted it with a very small window of time. It gets side stepped every single time in front of Itachi.
Kakashi was already in the area from jumping around the Fuuton
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But yes Itachi can avoid it but what stops him from getting blasted by the fuuton while he's in the process of avoiding it? Don't tell me while side-stepping another attack (it would have to be a decent side step as he can create another bolts if need be with a wider gap in-between) he's going to all of a sudden be able to side step the fuuton?
Thus the basic theory of how Kakuzu fights. Merely overwhelming the opponent with simultaneous jutsu attacks. He wanted Kakashi's heart hence why he was trying to provide Hidan the opening to take him down, instead of merely obliterating him with jutsu.
Are you unware how genjutsu works? Unless purposely made obvious by Itachi, Kakuzu will never even know he's under genjutsu. He will be controlling the masks based on the illusions he is seeing. The masks aren't sensors and will not know that Kakuzu is under genjutsu, and neither will they freely come to his aid because he isn't dead. Even if they did, Itachi will destroy them as they make their way towards Kakuzu. During this time, Itachi can capatilize on disposing of the masks and then Kakuzu, depending on how long it takes for Kakuzu to realize he's under genjutsu.
Except after seeing the genjutsu only once Deidara was able to counter sharingan genjutsu with ease, people overrate the **** out of basic genjutsu so don't say shit about underrating Itachi like you did below. It's you who doesn't quite know how genjutsu work its quite easy to see through, especially with 92 years of experience and an average/above average score in genjutsu by the DB. People seem to think everything is Tsukuyomi, 3T genjutsu doesn't trap anything in another reality or what have you. What actually happens can still be seen the minute Itachi attacks anything or anyone Kakuzu can still see it. If at all Kakuzu notices that he's in a genjutsu all he has to do is disturb his chakra flow which any basic Shinobi can do.
Show me a scan of Itachi actually using genjutsu for an offensive purpose? That's right its not there, he uses it to re-direct opponents attack fire and perception but please don't go thinking he's going to use it to destroy all the hearts. Kakuzu has the highest battle experience in the manga, just like Chiyo knew the counters of Genjutsu. A few crow clone genjutsu? Sure but trapping Kakuzu in anything for longer than seconds is nothing but overrating of a less then useful technique Lol foh
Please don't make me get scans for any of this as its basic knowledge for non Itachi wankers.
Underrating Itachi has been getting out of hand. It's like no one knows what he's capable of anymore.
