Edo Hashirama vs Edo Madara

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Kurama is not even in Edo Madara's arsenal (since he couldn't summon it due to it being inside Naruto). Just like adult Obito does not get Kurama, so I don't see why it is being mentioned.

The story's events should not limit the character. We give Madara at his full power all Truth-Seeking Spheres, even though he didn't have them at the time of reaching it.
 

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The story's events should not limit the character. We give Madara at his full power all Truth-Seeking Spheres, even though he didn't have them at the time of reaching it.

Except it does. Hebi Sasuke can't summon Aoda or his hawk because it is unknown if he had it at that point & EMS Sasuke can't summon Manda because it's dead at that point.

It says Edo Madara for a reason. You can't give him VOTE Madara/Juubi Jin feats unless they apply.
 

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Except it does. Hebi Sasuke can't summon Aoda or his hawk because it is unknown if he had it at that point & EMS Sasuke can't summon Manda because it's dead at that point.

It says Edo Madara for a reason. You can't give him VOTE Madara/Juubi Jin feats unless they apply.

Edo Madara has the feature of being able to summon Kurama. The thread creator is also going along with it. There are certain situations in which it follows your favor, and some situations in which it follows mine.
 

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Edo Madara has the feature of being able to summon Kurama. The thread creator is also going along with it. There are certain situations in which it follows your favor, and some situations in which it follows mine.

My comment was to advise the Op that he doesn't have to go along with it (in case he didn't know). I'm aware a special condition can be set by the OP, but he never addressed it.
 
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Seeing how (Edo) Madara didn't have Kurama (full) to fight Hashirama in this fight (Edo) Hashirama takes this low diff.
 

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Hashirama had lost at that point, Edo madara can't escape the gates of god, you can't serious debate that.

As stated above, feel free to restrict Kurama. I also responded to this on the first page if you didn't know.
 

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As stated above, feel free to restrict Kurama. I also responded to this on the first page if you didn't know.

How about you defend a double rinnegan madara without power ups ? So he doesn't have hashi cells, jubi, kurama, or sage mode.
And ill defend a sage mode hashirama without powerups (which he never had)
 

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How about you defend a double rinnegan madara without power ups ? So he doesn't have hashi cells, jubi, kurama, or sage mode.
And ill defend a sage mode hashirama without powerups (which he never had)

I'm not sure if I'll end up winning this, but sure, I'd be able to do that.
 

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How about you defend a double rinnegan madara without power ups ? So he doesn't have hashi cells, jubi, kurama, or sage mode.
And ill defend a sage mode hashirama without powerups (which he never had)
I'm going to start an opener(that includes all my points). My next post will be this, so look out for it.
 

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Location: Open Mountain Range

Characters: Double Rinnegan Madara, Hashirama

Restrictions:
Madara: Kurama, Hashirama's DNA, Sage Mode
Hashirama: None


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Hand-To-Hand Combat:
Hashirama loses in this category. While they are both well-versed in this area, Madara has the upper hand due to his war fan(gunbai). He also has the advantage of the Rinnegan's chakra receiver rods. If penetrated into the opponents body, both restriction and the transfer of that opponent's chakra to the originator can occur.

Basic Wood-Style:
Madara easily handles Hashirama's basic wood movements due to his long-ranged fire-style techniques. We have seen him even use ones that scale the size of the ten-tails. This easily clears the landscape and gets rid of any unnecessary blockage.

Wood-Style: Advent Of A World Of Flowers:
As noted in Basic Wood-Style, Madara is able to clear the land of any wood techniques that scatter across, including this technique. His Susano'o also allows him to jump through or destroy the surrounding environment.

Wood-Style: Wood Human Technique:
While a very useful technique indeed, it is feeble compared to Perfect Susano'o in aerial combat. The Perfect Susano'o is able to swiftly carry out long-distance slashes capable of chopping away at the very wood this technique is made of. It doesn't have a sufficient defense capable of holding off on those slashes for too long. Madara's large fire-style use can also be used to cook this thing. As we've seen, Susano'o users are able to control their avatar from a distance while outside of it, meaning both Madara and his Susano'o can attack at the same time.

Wood-Style: Wood Dragon Technique:
This technique is very weak compared to the power of other wood-based attacks. It presents the power to absorb, but if it were to come in close proximity of Madara, then Almighty Push swiftly deals with it. A simple slice of the Susano'o sword without going into Perfect mode can also destroy the dragon.

Sage Art: Wood-Style: True Several Thousand Hands:
The Buddha itself cannot be destroy by any means, but because of Perfect Susano'o's ability to fly, it is able to maneuver around and slice through the hands that come towards it. As Madara ascends in to the air, he also launches multiple Planetary Devastation orbs that take the Earth below them with it. This renders Hashirama and the Buddha unable to properly control aim and Susano'o to deal with the statue much more easily. The manipulation of gravity would also allow the summon to tilt in an unfavorable direction, as it cannot move on it's own. If it comes to the worst, the Buddha in mid-air breaks Susano'o and Madara uses Almighty Push to deal with the last of the hands that would be able to reach him before it becomes enveloped with rock from the ground. He also can use Limbo and swap to a safer location.
 

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What's the point of making this thread? The manga showed Edo Madara pissed all over your boy.
 

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Location: Open Mountain Range

Characters: Double Rinnegan Madara, Hashirama

Restrictions:
Madara: Kurama, Hashirama's DNA, Sage Mode
Hashirama: None


_________________________________________________________________________​

Hand-To-Hand Combat:
Hashirama loses in this category. While they are both well-versed in this area, Madara has the upper hand due to his war fan(gunbai). He also has the advantage of the Rinnegan's chakra receiver rods. If penetrated into the opponents body, both restriction and the transfer of that opponent's chakra to the originator can occur.

Basic Wood-Style:
Madara easily handles Hashirama's basic wood movements due to his long-ranged fire-style techniques. We have seen him even use ones that scale the size of the ten-tails. This easily clears the landscape and gets rid of any unnecessary blockage.

Wood-Style: Advent Of A World Of Flowers:
As noted in Basic Wood-Style, Madara is able to clear the land of any wood techniques that scatter across, including this technique. His Susano'o also allows him to jump through or destroy the surrounding environment.

Wood-Style: Wood Human Technique:
While a very useful technique indeed, it is feeble compared to Perfect Susano'o in aerial combat. The Perfect Susano'o is able to swiftly carry out long-distance slashes capable of chopping away at the very wood this technique is made of. It doesn't have a sufficient defense capable of holding off on those slashes for too long. Madara's large fire-style use can also be used to cook this thing. As we've seen, Susano'o users are able to control their avatar from a distance while outside of it, meaning both Madara and his Susano'o can attack at the same time.

Wood-Style: Wood Dragon Technique:
This technique is very weak compared to the power of other wood-based attacks. It presents the power to absorb, but if it were to come in close proximity of Madara, then Almighty Push swiftly deals with it. A simple slice of the Susano'o sword without going into Perfect mode can also destroy the dragon.

Sage Art: Wood-Style: True Several Thousand Hands:
The Buddha itself cannot be destroy by any means, but because of Perfect Susano'o's ability to fly, it is able to maneuver around and slice through the hands that come towards it. As Madara ascends in to the air, he also launches multiple Planetary Devastation orbs that take the Earth below them with it. This renders Hashirama and the Buddha unable to properly control aim and Susano'o to deal with the statue much more easily. The manipulation of gravity would also allow the summon to tilt in an unfavorable direction, as it cannot move on it's own. If it comes to the worst, the Buddha in mid-air breaks Susano'o and Madara uses Almighty Push to deal with the last of the hands that would be able to reach him before it becomes enveloped with rock from the ground. He also can use Limbo and swap to a safer location.

I don't remember madaras perfect susanoo being able to fly?
 

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Madara with Ems rinnegan alive negs hashirama with low diff
 

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Hashirama that was not in full power already stomped Enhanced edo madara
 

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I don't remember madaras perfect susanoo being able to fly?

All of them can. It has wings and the DataBook even states Madara's as the only one able to fly(as this was before Sasuke's and Kakashi's appeared).
 

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All of them can. It has wings and the DataBook even states Madara's as the only one able to fly(as this was before Sasuke's and Kakashi's appeared).
He can't because he has no feats.

Stay mad and continue to fap DB
 

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Hashi wins
All of them can. It has wings and the DataBook even states Madara's as the only one able to fly(as this was before Sasuke's and Kakashi's appeared).

Sasuke can use Limbo as it is Rinnegan tech :bdpf:
 

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Match ends in a tie , madara is restricted by wood dragon while hashi is restricted by chakra rods.

The whole fight happend off-panel and ended in a draw.
 
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