since when does any form of madara besides jj beat hashirama?

[Hashirama Senjuu]

We don't need to have seen everything. It's common sense that all they used was their "avatars". Besides, my last statement is undeniable. Hashirama was explaining what the Wood Dragon does, meaning he had just used it on Madara. This then proves that Hashirama had those rods in him far before he utilized the dragon. This further tells that Madara could have binded him before that occurred. He did say he wanted to play with Hashirama before becoming a host. I'm sure he wouldn't simply over-power him before any fun occurred.

Edo hashirama beat Edo madara. There is no debating that, manga facts. It's like saying Naruto didn't defeat deva path
Reason madara wouldn't have used mokuton is because his mokuton is weak compared to hashirama even stated by himself. Hashirama would've turned madaras wood dragon against himself.

 

[~Ethereal~]

Hmmm....SM Madara?

 

[Yokaze Sama]

Alive Rinnegan Madara destroys Hashirama, seriously.

Chibaku Tensei rips everything apart.
Limbo clones can't be sensed as said before, so Hashirama has no way to counter them.
Gakido absorbs Hashis nin jutsu.
Perfect Susano'o handles Mokujin.

Add Gedou Mazou and it's overkill.

EDIT: Chibaku Tensei orbs into Shinsu Senju and it starts collapsing..

 

[rinnegan human puppet]

You can still physically feel each limbo

you feel it but can't do nothing to it, you cant see it coming, you cant feel it, u cant dodge it, look at what happened to EMS sasuke for example.

 

[iKaras]

Madara wins as soon as he acquires one Limbo. Its low diff-no diff once limbo is in.

 

[Hashirama Senjuu]

Alive Rinnegan Madara destroys Hashirama, seriously.

Chibaku Tensei rips everything apart.
Limbo clones can't be sensed as said before, so Hashirama has no way to counter them.
Gakido absorbs Hashis nin jutsu.
Perfect Susano'o handles Mokujin.

Add Gedou Mazou and it's overkill.

Chibaku tensei is useless against hashirama, he can literally fuse with the earth being sucked up, youre basically giving him an advantage.
Flowering trees puts limbo to sleep, while hashirama stays elevated on wood golem, out of limbos distance
Limbo can still also be felt by physical means, any wood they touch, hashirama will know.
Wood dragon negates preta path as we already saw when Edo hashirama beat Edo madara.
Hashirama would use madaras own mokuton against him.
And wood Buddha beat PS kurama. It will toy with gedo mazo and spank it like a bad baby.

I don't care what you say, I believe only jubi madara and up can beat hashirama
anything else gets raped

 

[Hashirama Senjuu]

you feel it but can't do nothing to it, you cant see it coming, you cant feel it, u cant dodge it, look at what happened to EMS sasuke for example.

You can restrain it as seen with Naruto. Hashirama has ALOT of wood too restrain a few limbos that aren't even jubi Jin limbos. He also has the gates of the great got which subdued the jubi. Unless you think a regular limbo is stronger than the jubi

 

[VongolaX]

If Edo Madara just drops a meteor or two on SS, we wouldn't have this problem.

Even a simple shrina tensei would neg

 

[Hashirama Senjuu]

If Edo Madara just drops a meteor or two on SS, we wouldn't have this problem.

Even a simple shrina tensei would neg

Hashi can turn a meteor into his own weapon, more earth for more wood etc.

 

[Holy God]

Edo hashirama beat Edo madara. There is no debating that, manga facts. It's like saying Naruto didn't defeat deva path
Reason madara wouldn't have used mokuton is because his mokuton is weak compared to hashirama even stated by himself. Hashirama would've turned madaras wood dragon against himself.

If I could ask, would you mind creating a thread in the versus section for just us two? It would be Edo Madara vs Edo Hashirama. As for what happened in the manga, neither beat another because neither would be able to move.

 

[Hashirama Senjuu]

If I could ask, would you mind creating a thread in the versus section for just us two? It would be Edo Madara vs Edo Hashirama. As for what happened in the manga, neither beat another because neither would be able to move.

Created and ready

 

[p0kerx]

Not only that Hashirama cant see or sense Limbo but also if by some magical way he achieve that he wouldnt be able to hit the limbo clones because they can be hit only with RIKUDO chakra.. this of course doesnt mean that they cant hit him.

 

[Yokaze Sama]

Chibaku tensei is useless against hashirama, he can literally fuse with the earth being sucked up, youre basically giving him an advantage.
Flowering trees puts limbo to sleep, while hashirama stays elevated on wood golem, out of limbos distance
Limbo can still also be felt by physical means, any wood they touch, hashirama will know.
Wood dragon negates preta path as we already saw when Edo hashirama beat Edo madara.
Hashirama would use madaras own mokuton against him.
And wood Buddha beat PS kurama. It will toy with gedo mazo and spank it like a bad baby.

I don't care what you say, I believe only jubi madara and up can beat hashirama
anything else gets raped

Not if he shoots chibaku tensei into his SS.
Limbo are invulnerable against non-Rikoudo based jutsus. Madara also repelled all nine bijuus with his Limbo and stunned them strong enough to catch them with the Gedo Mazou. Then Madara is also able to switch with his Limbo clone if he gets stuck by his Wood Dragon.
And on the top, Hashi can't seal Limbo.
Forgot about that Wood dragon, sorry.
Perfect Susanoo will serve as defense well enough, while Gedo attacks from behind.

Even if Hashi manages to destroy Susanoo and Gedo Mazou, he won't beat his Limbo clones.

 

[Hashirama Senjuu]

Not if he shoots chibaku tensei into his SS.
Limbo are invulnerable against non-Rikoudo based jutsus. Madara also repelled all nine bijuus with his Limbo and stunned them strong enough to catch them with the Gedo Mazou. Then Madara is also able to switch with his Limbo clone if he gets stuck by his Wood Dragon.
And on the top, Hashi can't seal Limbo.
Forgot about that Wood dragon, sorry.
Perfect Susanoo will serve as defense well enough, while Gedo attacks from behind.

Even if Hashi manages to destroy Susanoo and Gedo Mazou, he won't beat his Limbo clones.

Ima need a scan showing they can only be hurt by rikudo chakra. Also it doesn't matter if limbo can be sealed or not. The gates of god don't seal anything, the jubi wasn't sealed?

Flowering trees>limbo

 

[Aznkidd]

I think it is shameless to say madara neg hashi when madara himself equipped with hashi cell to defeat him.

 

[Hashirama Senjuu]

P.s. I don't think shooting the chibaku tensei into SS would be smart, it'd get destroyed instantly. It only took a bijudama to destroy chibaku tensei. Yet Buddha survived several PS sword fused kurama biju damas.

 

[Dantee]

Can't you guys see OP is a troll.

 

[RasenUchihaChaos]

Are you blind? because blind Madara destroyed Harashima

 

[Hashirama Senjuu]

Are you blind? because blind Madara destroyed Harashima

Hashirama was already restrained?

 

[p0kerx]

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