since when does any form of madara besides jj beat hashirama?

[A$AP Wap]

When did this happen. I saw rods in Hashirama back restricting chakra. What did you see?

i saw hashirama being effortlessly defeated
which is code for negged

 

[shelke]

Rinnegan Madara beats Hashirama fairly easily, even if we take Mokuton and SM out of the equation. Alive Madara's feats with Real Rinnegan were on another level. He has no counters to Limbo alone. One Rinnegan Madara steamrolls him.

 

[shelke]

Edo madara already lost to hashirama

And only stabbed Hashirama like 7 or so times, while he was in SM as well and Madara was in base. Not much of a win.

 

[Hashirama Senjuu]

And only stabbed Hashirama like 7 or so times, while he was in SM as well and Madara was in base. Not much of a win.

I'll admit he loses because he can't hurt limbos, otherwise, he'd win.

 

[Hashirama Senjuu]

And only stabbed Hashirama like 7 or so times, while he was in SM as well and Madara was in base. Not much of a win.

Hashirama also didn't use SS.

 

[Scryed]

Alive One Rinnegan Madara is the lowest form of Madara that beats Hashirama.

Only due to Limbo though. Without Rikudou chakra, you can't touch the Limbos while somehow they could touch you (as weird as it sounds though similar to a ghost).

I doubt Edo Madara beats Alive Hashirama though. Mainly due to Shinsusenju.

 

[Rikodou Mode]

Since his arrogance disappeared, which is never. But their fight at VoTE showed that both are equal in power

 

[Aznkidd]

Some of you need to reread the manga how sasuke and naruto vs limbo

 

[patskie14]

DMS obito with rikudo chakra negs both at the same time

 

[shelke]

I'll admit he loses because he can't hurt limbos, otherwise, he'd win.

What do you mean otherwise? Madara calls in one Limbo and it's over.

Hashirama also didn't use SS.

He was in SM. Let's get real now.

 

[Hashirama Senjuu]

What do you mean otherwise? Madara calls in one Limbo and it's over.



He was in SM. Let's get real now.

And madara had to use his cells. Lol lets be serious now

 

[shelke]

And madara had to use his cells. Lol lets be serious now

What would that add to an Edo? Was he using Mokuton in stabbing him? Nope. Did it aid him in stamina? Nope, he was already an Edo. Was he using Hashirama's SM? Nope, he sucked it later. Did it make him faster? Nope. Don't really see your point.

 

[DroGGz0r]

Any form of Madara excepting VOTE and lower stomp his sorry ass. Didn't read anything but the title, are people actually arguing about this ?

 

[Draphsin]

EMS Madara < Base Hashi < Edo Madara < Edo Hashi < VoTE Madara < SM Hashi < Rinnegan Madara < JJ Madara

 

[Hashirama Senjuu]

What would that add to an Edo? Was he using Mokuton in stabbing him? Nope. Did it aid him in stamina? Nope, he was already an Edo. Was he using Hashirama's SM? Nope, he sucked it later. Did it make him faster? Nope. Don't really see your point.

Would he have rinnegan? Nope.

 

[Hashirama Senjuu]

Any form of Madara excepting VOTE and lower stomp his sorry ass. Didn't read anything but the title, are people actually arguing about this ?

That's funny considering a weakened Edo hashirama beat Edo madara who was stated to be Better than he was at vote. LOL

 

[shelke]

Would he have rinnegan? Nope.

What did Rinnegan add to his movements and his reflexes? Your rebuttals make no sense at all, given that Rinnegan wasn't even involved in him repeatedly stabbing Hashirama in SM.

 

[shelke]

Would he have rinnegan? Nope.

What did Rinnegan add to his movements and his reflexes? Your rebuttals make no sense at all, given that Rinnegan wasn't even involved in him repeatedly stabbing Hashirama in SM.

 

[WalksInShadows]

alive madara with his pair of original rinnegan >>>>>> any form of hashirama.

pretty much.

With Hashi'DNA

have you not learned anything from the Pain fight? The OP can only be used with the user's own chakra. This has been established by Obito, and even more so by Hashirama once Madara's chakra signature faded.

Besides sm hashirama. Lol you think a pair of rinnegan will make him stronger than perfect susanoo covered full kurama?

simply having a SM won't allow Hashirama to sense where the clones' attacks are going to be coming from any better than other SMs. If he doesn't have Rikudou senjutsu or a Rinnegan, he might as well be trying to fight those thingws with his eyes closed. And it's not like his auto-regen abilities have no limits to what they can actually heal.

 

[AnonymousShinobi]

Blind Madara > Hashi

Lolgg