[Predictions] Naruto Manga 489 Discussion and 490 Predictions

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Kuroi Taka

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lol. the 1st's soul is inside the shiki fujin, that's impossibe. i believe there's a chance that tobi was really obito..we don't know what really happen when those boulders crushed obito. maybe zetsu got his body and place the soul of madara to the dead body of obito with some sort of justu.
yes this could be possible but then how did zetsu and mandara know each other and is zetsu really as old as mandara he is from the grass nation right? which wasn't around when the fire natino first began. and also wouldnt mandara have to go through getting his ms all over again? if his soul is implanted into obito he would get his low level sharigan not his high level ms sharigan (idk just me opinion):hypertobi:
 

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My guess is the Tobi can be anyone of the following:

1. Madara himself (as claimed by Tobi)
2. Obito (his hairs have some resemblance, and we havn't seen the left eye that Kakashi has)
3. Madara's younger brother (i dont remeber his name - its just a guess)
4. Someone else :p
Well, he's probably Madara, due to the fact that he:
1).Said so himself.
2).Showed Kisame his face and Kisame recognized him as the 3rd (corect me if it's not 3rd) Mizukage who apparently was a completely evil man (*cough*Mad-*cough*-ara).
3).Madara has hax of immortality so of course he's still alive.
4).Cuz he is Madara.
 

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Also, tobi had stated that he was just a shell of his former self due to the fight with the 1st.

If so, how could he have controlled the 9 tails 16 years ago and yet he still has no power?

I just mean controlling the 9 tails couldn't have been such an easy feat for someone with no power..
the reason that i dont think that it is obito is the same reason u stated. i mean, the fourth died young while kakashi was atleast the same age naruto is now which means obito would've been a similar age. how could he have possibly fought with the fourth? And on top of that b on par with him. i just find it to b pretty unreasonable.
 

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This is just a wild theory but what do you guys think.

I think Madara can swap out multiple eyes. mybe thats why he has a massive eye collection in the background of a few recent manga pages.

1. plus he said he wanted to collect the rinngan, why would he want to do that if he couldn't use it. I think he can use it.

2. The wall with all the info on the tail beast, in the Uchiha hideout. They said you need all the eye forms to read it successfully. That means he had access all the eyes to read it. i have doubts that he just got some random Hyuga to read it for him and take him on his word that its correct.

Another wild theory, maybe hes gonna a new army of sharingans users. resurrect is own clan in a twisted way like that.

Seeing Danzo with multiple sharingans in his arms i like to think alot of things are possible.
 

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OBITO? this cannt be BCZ obito dont know what happened in uchiha madara and senju ERA this is ridiculus and shit... tobi is madara or 1st kage....... bcz 1st and madara only know hat happened two of them when fight each other and madara brother.... tobi show us everityng! obito even dosent know who is madara brother... even sasuke cant know that.... and itachi to.....
 

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Well, tbh it could be anyone just posing as Madara.

They don't even need to be from the uchiha clan..

It would be cool to see how Kakashi reacts when he finds out that it is obito (not saying that he is)

Also, Kakashi has a some-what similar ability to "tobi"

Kakashi can use space time like when he used it against deidara.

if it was somehow obito then he would have space-time abilities as well and maybe he has had more time to train his ability so that he can transport himself.

It DOES sound pretty ridiculous saying that it is obito, but nobody knows that it isn't yet and I'm going to stick with my thoughts.

I'm mainly backing up this theory because i would like to see how Kakashi reacts when he finds out the obito, He's best friend from back in the day who he thought had died is really the one behind it all.

So, until i know 100% that is cannot be obito no matter what.

Nothing will change my mind. Sorry :)

Also, for the people that say that he couldn't have survived half his body being crushed.

Perhaps there was someone who had helped him and and healed his wounds just as lady tsunade did for lee.

Also, "The right side of Tobi's face looks as if it is wrinkled"

What if it wasn't wrinkles but in fact the damage he had taken from the boulder landing on his face.

No sure xD, It's very puzzling..
Bringing the same old topic again. You are quite annoying. This topic had been discussed a lot a year ago, so PLIZZ DO NOT BRING THIS TOPIC AGAIN!!!
Few things I like to say to lighten you up:
1) Obito was crushed by skilled stone ninjas. Yes, very skilled stone ninjas. Kakashi was the only one able to fight against around ten stone shinobis. He couldn't beat them, fortunately Minato arrived in time to save him. If Obito was alive that time, they would have extract him out. Also, its the third great ninja war, no one will hang around over that place. Its too risky to expose one's ass over there. Besides, they have to dig like 5 metres depth. Even if we assume someone is after Sharingan, the right eye is crushed and the left is a present for Kakashi's Jounin attainment.
2) I don't think even Tsunade has the skilled to heal a crushed body. Rock Lee's condition and Obito's is too different. Its like comparing Rasengan and Rasenshuriken.
3) When Obito was about to pass away, he wished he could enjoy some more of his life. He was just making friends with Kakashi. Had he been alive, Kakashi will be the first which obito approaches.
4) There is no resemblace between Kakashi and tobi.
5) The right side could be anything. Had Danzo not expose himself outside world, you may even support Tobi is Danzo. :D Which is the same old topic, BORING
6) Its not puzzling at all. TObi is Madara, that's all. The one puzzling is your mind.
--- Anyway you can have your own opinion. But if you can stop posting about Tobi is Obito stuff, i hope everyone will be grateful, because we are all NAKAMA.
PEACE
 

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Ever wondered in this ruckus that naruto and sasuke , 2 one of the most ninajas of ninja world are still " GENIN".
Lol afterall this chapter was most whole confusing like chapter. When i started guessing the story Kisi changed the story. Waiting for next chapter by my heart....
 

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Bringing the same old topic again. You are quite annoying. This topic had been discussed a lot a year ago, so PLIZZ DO NOT BRING THIS TOPIC AGAIN!!!
Few things I like to say to lighten you up:
1) Obito was crushed by skilled stone ninjas. Yes, very skilled stone ninjas. Kakashi was the only one able to fight against around ten stone shinobis. He couldn't beat them, fortunately Minato arrived in time to save him. If Obito was alive that time, they would have extract him out. Also, its the third great ninja war, no one will hang around over that place. Its too risky to expose one's ass over there. Besides, they have to dig like 5 metres depth. Even if we assume someone is after Sharingan, the right eye is crushed and the left is a present for Kakashi's Jounin attainment.
2) I don't think even Tsunade has the skilled to heal a crushed body. Rock Lee's condition and Obito's is too different. Its like comparing Rasengan and Rasenshuriken.
3) When Obito was about to pass away, he wished he could enjoy some more of his life. He was just making friends with Kakashi. Had he been alive, Kakashi will be the first which obito approaches.
4) There is no resemblace between Kakashi and tobi.
5) The right side could be anything. Had Danzo not expose himself outside world, you may even support Tobi is Danzo. :D Which is the same old topic, BORING
6) Its not puzzling at all. TObi is Madara, that's all. The one puzzling is your mind.
--- Anyway you can have your own opinion. But if you can stop posting about Tobi is Obito stuff, i hope everyone will be grateful, because we are all NAKAMA.
PEACE
True, but we still can't really know 100% who it really is until we see his face.

Btw, Resemblance between Kakashi and obito? o_O
 

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Tobi is definetivly not Obito, but he might be "under" Madara like the Akatsuki leader Pain really was under Tobi/Madara`s charge/controll/command.

Maybe Tobi really is just pretending to be Madara while the real Madara runs everything from the shadow. Maybe, as i said before, Tobi is Madara`s Grandson or Great Grandson.

What do you guys think?;)
 

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Tobi is definetivly not Obito, but he might be "under" Madara like the Akatsuki leader Pain really was under Tobi/Madara`s charge/controll/command.

Maybe Tobi really is just pretending to be Madara while the real Madara runs everything from the shadow. Maybe, as i said before, Tobi is Madara`s Grandson or Great Grandson.

What do you guys think?;)
Well I do believe that Tobi is Madara but if any one wants to argue about it then your way of looking it is refreshing. We all thought that Pain was the elite Leader of Akatsuki but it was Madara so may be it is someone else pretending to be Madara while Madara watching everything from the shadows. But the thing is the most logical answer is Tobi is Madara.
 

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Tobi is definetivly not Obito, but he might be "under" Madara like the Akatsuki leader Pain really was under Tobi/Madara`s charge/controll/command.

Maybe Tobi really is just pretending to be Madara while the real Madara runs everything from the shadow. Maybe, as i said before, Tobi is Madara`s Grandson or Great Grandson.

What do you guys think?;)
Judging from the major twist of kabuto resurrecting nagato, kakuzu, sasori, deidara, and itachi anything is possible. But I, myself, don't necessarily believe that there is some other greater power controlling everything from the shadows. We've already witnessed this with nagato controlling the pains. If that were to repeat with madara, it would just be a fail for kishi I think.
 
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