Child soldiers still exist during Naruto's reign as Hokage. World peace? He FAILED!

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Sometimes when i viewing thread, i just hope that some of them only display the darkness deep within your soul that needs to explode on forum and no where else.
 

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World peace is the opposite of world war. Civilians being armed with weapons doesn't equal to a world war.
Well, actually, Naruto's goal was to achieve "true peace" rather than world peace. A child (trained in mortal combat) walking around armed in his own village doesn't exactly give off the vibe that Naruto's magical version of peace exists.
 

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TenTen is complaining about how there's no business. How is that flourishing?
Tenten's business is not flourishing because she sells weapons and she complains about how the world is too peaceful these days, she is in the wrong business according to the time.

Also did miss the skyscrapers behind the hokage faces, would you like a zoomed in scan?

No, the kids still go through the Chunin exams where they could easily kill each other.
Said no one.

All Naruto did is repeat what Hiruzen did in part 1 with the Sand, which already failed.
The sand and leaf alliance continued throughout part two, now Naruto is having a five kage meeting in a casual atmosphere.

0/10, try again, or don't, I won't bother anyway.
 

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Sometimes when i viewing thread, i just hope that some of them only display the darkness deep within your soul that needs to explode on forum and no where else.
You're pretty dramatic, aren't you? Maybe you should channel that and go into acting. Musical theatre seems like a perfect fit for you.
 

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Well, actually, Naruto's goal was to achieve "true peace" rather than world peace. A child (trained in mortal combat) walking around armed in his own village doesn't exactly give off the vibe that Naruto's magical version of peace exists.
True peace doesn't involve illusional methods such as Infinite Tsukuyomi or fear through nuking countries like Pain's method. True peace is done through people actually willing to cooperate or at least understand one another. The whole vibe you're bringing up is just a superficial impression of Sai's kid carrying a weapon. Not even sure what you're basing this off of.
 

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The five great nations all understand what it means to endure.

That's as close to peace as it's ever going to get...



Not sure if you understand it, but Naruto and Hashirama changed the entire world. Past and Present generations.

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Tenten's business is not flourishing because she sells weapons and she complains about how the world is too peaceful these days, she is in the wrong business according to the time.

Also did miss the skyscrapers behind the hokage faces, would you like a zoomed in scan?



Said no one.



The sand and leaf alliance continued throughout part two, now Naruto is having a five kage meeting in a casual atmosphere.

0/10, try again, or don't, I won't bother anyway.
There entire business is based on Shinobi. Her business is the same as most others, that's why I made her an example.


If TenTen is having bad business, then every village is having bad business.

What? They are still going through it because nothing ever said that they weren't. The mist still has children killing each other to rank up.

They went to war didn't they? It's already proven to fail, just like Hashirama's system.

That doesn't mean that the peace will last. Hashirama met with the Kages too, he also had a casual encounter with Madara.
 

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There entire business is based on Shinobi. Her business is the same as most others, that's why I made her an example.


If TenTen is having bad business, then every village is having bad business.

What? They are still going through it because nothing ever said that they weren't. The mist still has children killing each other to rank up.

They went to war didn't they? It's already proven to fail, just like Hashirama's system.

That doesn't mean that the peace will last. Hashirama met with the Kages too, he also had a casual encounter with Madara.
Pretty sure TenTen doesn't have a contract with any of the villages so of course her business is going to be bad.

I could see if she was in charge of manufacturing weapons for Konoha, but she isnt.
 

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Pretty sure TenTen doesn't have a contract with any of the villages so of course her business is going to be bad.

I could see if she was in charge of manufacturing weapons for Konoha, but she isnt.
The author want to display the true peace within NV by drawing that panel. Ofc there will always some one like orochimaru exist.
 

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True peace doesn't involve illusional methods such as Infinite Tsukuyomi or fear through nuking countries like Pain's method. True peace is done through people actually willing to cooperate or at least understand one another. The whole vibe you're bringing up is just a superficial impression of Sai's kid carrying a weapon. Not even sure what you're basing this off of.
The point is that a small child is walking around armed in his own village. Why is a small kid so on guard in his own homeland that he has to carry a weapon around to feel safe? I thought true peace was meant to mean that children wouldn't be trained in mortal combat anymore, that they could walk around and feel safe (clearly Sai's kid doesn't) or that the village system would cease to exist but none of those things happened.

Naruto's words to his son about shinobi being those who endure says it all, really. Naruto reached the same conclusion as all of his predecessors, all of whom failed.
 

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Insufficient evidence. I don't understand how you can come to that conclusion from a kid carrying a machete. All of them are still considered Shinobi, and one weapon doesn't really amount to much.
 

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The point is that a small child is walking around armed in his own village. Why is a small kid so on guard in his own homeland that he has to carry a weapon around to feel safe? I thought true peace was meant to mean that children wouldn't be trained in mortal combat anymore, that they could walk around and feel safe (clearly Sai's kid doesn't) or that the village system would cease to exist but none of those things happened.

Naruto's words to his son about shinobi being those who endure says it all, really. Naruto reached the same conclusion as all of his predecessors, all of whom failed.
That is just your opinion, but you can not sure if it is meant the way you thinking. Endure can be surpress their hatred because of those evil doers and go by law.
 

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The point is that a small child is walking around armed in his own village. Why is a small kid so on guard in his own homeland that he has to carry a weapon around to feel safe?
Because there are still people who are either possible criminals like pedophiles, robbers, and what not that might do the unspeakable. Being in your homeland doesn't guarantee you safety from crime. It's pretty much for self defense.

Either that, or he is just simply training with that weapon. A person can actually train to use weapons in martial arts. He or she just can't use it against other people for some selfish intent.

The only thing he should not do is to use that weapon for wrong purposes such as when Boruto was about throw shurikens at his peers.
I thought true peace was meant to mean that children wouldn't be trained in mortal combat anymore, that they could walk around and feel safe (clearly Sai's kid doesn't) or that the village system would cease to exist but none of those things happened.
That doesn't mean that they won't train in martial arts or use weapons. They just aren't allowed to kill each other like what happened in Kiri. Peace was referring to ceasing world war between villages and countries that were for political agendas.

The issues of kids or civilians carrying weapons are dealt with by their parents, teachers, or the authorities. Then there is the fact that he is about one of the VERY FEW or less that showed weapons.
Naruto's words to his son about shinobi being those who endure says it all, really. Naruto reached the same conclusion as all of his predecessors, all of whom failed.
And he would? Because the outcome was clearly shown in the last chapter.
 
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Because there are still people who are either possible criminals like pedophiles, robbers, and what not that might do the unspeakable. Being in your homeland doesn't guarantee you saftey from crime. It's pretty much for self defense.

Either that, or he is just simply training with that weapon. A person can actually train to use weapons in martial arts. He or she just can't use it against other people for some selfish intent.


The only thing he should not do is to use that weapon for wrong purposes such as when Boruto was about throw shurikens at his peers.

That doesn't mean that they won't train in martial arts or use weapons. They just aren't allowed to kill each other like what happened in Kiri. Peace was referring to ceasing world war between villages and countries for the sake of political agendas.


And he would? Because the outcome was clearly shown in the last chapter.
I'm pretty sure Konoha has a police force, no need for academy kids to settle these matters. He's carrying a weapon, much like his father did, because he's prepared for combat at all times. That kind of fear/paranoia shouldn't exist in a peaceful world.

Naruto has failed all of these children and the shinobi world. He's a false prophet.
 

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You can have a world where little 3 year olds are holding guns.. doesn't mean anything relating to peace..

DBZ world has peace, despite there being Martial Arts tournaments... Fighting is part of nature , a form to express yourself.
 

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I'm pretty sure Konoha has a police force, no need for academy kids to settle these matters.
Exactly.
He's carrying a weapon, much like his father did, because he's prepared for combat at all times. That kind of fear/paranoia shouldn't exist in a peaceful world.
No, it definitely isn't for combat at all times. I already mentioned a couple reasons why. Not even sure what you are basing these on. Even then, there is the fact that he may not carry the tanto at all times considering that was only a snippet.

According to this, that means that Nagato and Obito/Madara were pushing their methods out of fear/paranoia that war will happen again. Even then, nowhere did it suggest that a peaceful world exist without some fear/paranoia.
Naruto has failed all of these children and the shinobi world. He's a false prophet.
Nowhere did it ever states that he was a prophet.
 
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