[Discussion] So what happens when you die?

[Zaphkiel]

When you die, you're not going to another place to be tormented or live in eternal bliss. That is just the imagination of a people scared of being removed from existence. But don't be afraid, you won't even be cognizant of this fact because the minute you 'die' you're no longer here. Death wouldn't seem so dark to you anymore, cause you won't experience it.

Think about this, think about going to sleep and never waking back up. Would it matter to you that you've died? You wouldn't even feel a thing. That is what dying is, just sleep without awakening. In the same way someone is born, think about waking up after never going to sleep. That might puzzle you a bit but think about it, to be spawned from...nothingness. You have no memory of that 'place' you only know that you're alive. Its the same as dying, Hell, Heaven, none of it will matter.

Unless you believe in the eternal energy of the universe where your essence will continue in the form of energy to either power a star, spin a quasar or even another human being. These are all hopeful thinking, unnecessary at that too, because death shouldn't be something we fear- or embrace. Death is simply a phenomenon.

 

[Brother Numpsay]

^^Lol your just as preachy as anyone who is "religious". At least they are adding meaning to life and universe while your preaching to the choir that life and universe has no meaning.

why cant most just admit you dont know the answer but you just trust your own opinion/worldview Lol.

 

[Multiply]

When you die, you're not going to another place to be tormented or live in eternal bliss. That is just the imagination of a people scared of being removed from existence. But don't be afraid, you won't even be cognizant of this fact because the minute you 'die' you're no longer here. Death wouldn't seem so dark to you anymore, cause you won't experience it.

Think about this, think about going to sleep and never waking back up. Would it matter to you that you've died? You wouldn't even feel a thing. That is what dying is, just sleep without awakening. In the same way someone is born, think about waking up after never going to sleep. That might puzzle you a bit but think about it, to be spawned from...nothingness. You have no memory of that 'place' you only know that you're alive. Its the same as dying, Hell, Heaven, none of it will matter.

Unless you believe in the eternal energy of the universe where your essence will continue in the form of energy to either power a star, spin a quasar or even another human being. These are all hopeful thinking, unnecessary at that too, because death shouldn't be something we fear- or embrace. Death is simply a phenomenon.

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[The Dreamer]

When you die, you're not going to another place to be tormented or live in eternal bliss. That is just the imagination of a people scared of being removed from existence. But don't be afraid, you won't even be cognizant of this fact because the minute you 'die' you're no longer here. Death wouldn't seem so dark to you anymore, cause you won't experience it.

Think about this, think about going to sleep and never waking back up. Would it matter to you that you've died? You wouldn't even feel a thing. That is what dying is, just sleep without awakening. In the same way someone is born, think about waking up after never going to sleep. That might puzzle you a bit but think about it, to be spawned from...nothingness. You have no memory of that 'place' you only know that you're alive. Its the same as dying, Hell, Heaven, none of it will matter.

Unless you believe in the eternal energy of the universe where your essence will continue in the form of energy to either power a star, spin a quasar or even another human being. These are all hopeful thinking, unnecessary at that too, because death shouldn't be something we fear- or embrace. Death is simply a phenomenon.

Great. You know all this... how?

 

[~WastelandSociety~]

In order to Answer You must die ! when You die , You cant answer !

There are some people that claim they died and had an outer body experience and then the doctors brought them back on time.

But we won't know until we die.

Maybe its nothingness just darkness.
Maybe you get reborn.
Maybe there's another dimension that our energy,soul,continues being.

But for me I don't really care about what happens after life.
I'll just enjoy the moment I do have now and worry about it once im dead.

 

[shelke]

It's a monumentally stupid question, given that death is the most subjective experience in the history of mankind and no one returns to tell the tale. Science enthusiasts will spin their own logic and Religious zealots their own yarns, as the element of complete mystery allows them this leeway.

I'll just quote Freud here and state that, death is one mystery that we must all experience. This whole thing about knowing death in life reminds me of a few lines from The Raven, where the man, knowing that he will die stares into the darkness: "Deep into the darkness, peering / Long I stood there ... wondering, fearing, doubting."

Let's not ask such questions that will only open a can of worms and the never ending debate between religion and science, and I am right and you are wrong.

 

[Zaphkiel]

^^Lol your just as preachy as anyone who is "religious". At least they are adding meaning to life and universe while your preaching to the choir that life and universe has no meaning.

why cant most just admit you dont know the answer but you just trust your own opinion/worldview Lol.

I never in any point of my previous post said life had no meaning, you can add your own meaning to life. Instead I'm saying Death is a simple thing being thrown out of proportion by scared, irrational people. Eternal bliss? Really? Sounds to me like a 5 year old hoping for infinite twinkies when he grows up.

And my analogy hits the nail on the head perfectly, unless you can disprove this or give me a better one I'm yet to be persuaded.

Great. You know all this... how?

What do you mean how do I know this? Are you this dense? I never said my words were absolute I was merely giving an example to have you grasp my point of view.

 

[Punk Hazard]

^^Lol your just as preachy as anyone who is "religious". At least they are adding meaning to life and universe while your preaching to the choir that life and universe has no meaning.

why cant most just admit you dont know the answer but you just trust your own opinion/worldview Lol.

Yeah no, not being religious does not mean you don't see any meaning to life and the universe. In fact, non-religious people will probably have a broader idea of a meaning to life than a religious person because, usually, your religion tells it for you, while a non-religious person will have to find their own.

And do you not know how believing in something works? It goes without saying that the things we say about this are our opinions. No one needs to say ¨This is my opinion.¨ If someone believes in something, they see it as truth, so they have the right to speak as though it is. You saying ¨that's your opinion¨ adds nothing to the discussion.s

 

[Brother Numpsay]

I never in any point of my previous post said life had no meaning, you can add your own meaning to life.

I was speaking objectively. You believe theres no God. Taking out a personal Creator out of the equations takes away meaning to life and the universe, objectively. It is by chance that something happened that made the universe and life. Nothing personal ends with a subjective meaning to life and the universe. Both the universe and life are bond to end eventually.

Instead I'm saying Death is a simple thing being thrown out of proportion by scared, irrational people.

Somewhat agreeable. Being afraid of your live being no longer exist isn't irrational. Its very understandable.

Eternal bliss? Really? Sounds to me like a 5 year old hoping for infinite twinkies when he grows up.

How is life value = to an infinite materiel, thats bound to lose interest in?

And my analogy hits the nail on the head perfectly, unless you can disprove this or give me a better one I'm yet to be persuaded.

Pretty much covered it first quote. Im not going to give you a better one as Im sure you are not open minded to be persuaded in the first place.

Yeah no, not being religious does not mean you don't see any meaning to life and the universe. In fact, non-religious people will probably have a broader idea of a meaning to life than a religious person because, usually, your religion tells it for you, while a non-religious person will have to find their own.

Im not religious and at the end of the day everyone looks at this subjectively.

And do you not know how believing in something works? It goes without saying that the things we say about this are our opinions. No one needs to say ¨This is my opinion.¨ If someone believes in something, they see it as truth, so they have the right to speak as though it is. You saying ¨that's your opinion¨ adds nothing to the discussion.s

I said admit you dont know the answer to the question. How does that mean anything of me saying to "make sure you mention that it is your opinion"?

 

[Funky Tiger]

i dunno

 

[The Dreamer]

I never in any point of my previous post said life had no meaning, you can add your own meaning to life. Instead I'm saying Death is a simple thing being thrown out of proportion by scared, irrational people. Eternal bliss? Really? Sounds to me like a 5 year old hoping for infinite twinkies when he grows up.

And my analogy hits the nail on the head perfectly, unless you can disprove this or give me a better one I'm yet to be persuaded.


What do you mean how do I know this? Are you this dense? I never said my words were absolute I was merely giving an example to have you grasp my point of view.

Was just grabbing your attention. Bored and stuff. However, when you lump all religions to a wishful thinking label, put my belief in God on the same level as 5 year olds dreams of tinky winky land and state that religious people are delusional nutsacks afraid of death you better elaborate.

Yeah no, not being religious does not mean you don't see any meaning to life and the universe. In fact, non-religious people will probably have a broader idea of a meaning to life than a religious person because, usually, your religion tells it for you, while a non-religious person will have to find their own.

And do you not know how believing in something works? It goes without saying that the things we say about this are our opinions. No one needs to say ¨This is my opinion.¨ If someone believes in something, they see it as truth, so they have the right to speak as though it is. You saying ¨that's your opinion¨ adds nothing to the discussion.s

@bold: I disagree. There is a difference between the non-religious meaning to life and the religious meaning to life. (Well atleast in my religion. ) I assume that when you say meaning to life, you mean something that you accomplished, something to leave behind, be it work of some sorts or atleast a memory in your beloved ones mind. You're talking about what we do here in this life on this Earth. (Correct me if I'm wrong.)
However, when I, as a religious person, say meaning to life, I mean an absolute goal, a definitive purpose wich is fulfilled once our life ends. These are 2 different things. So what religion states as a purpose of life (atleast my religion) is that wich comes after this life. That absolute purpose doesn't interfere with the meaning of life in the way your meaning of the words. It's not like people who believe in God or are religious spend their entire lifes in caves praying until they die. We are active members of the society, just like you. We live, work, have fun, make works of art, scientific discoveries, are remembered by those around us, we accomplish just as much of a purposeful life as you. Now add to that the religious meaning of life's purpose and you can see that religious people can accomplish the same purposes as non-religious, plus they strive towards a final goal, in my case the unification with God.

Hope you got what I'm trying to say.