Why didn't Madara give Nagato 1 Rinnegan as opposed to both?

[Zealous Sparks]

Obito had the Rinnegan only for a short while before the War. Knowing the abilities doesn't guarantee that he can use any of them with the same skill level as say, Nagato, who had used the Path's abilities for many years, despite the power of his techniques being stronger due to having both an Uchiha body and Hashi DNA within that short period of time. Not to add to the fact that Obito didn't use any of the Paths offensively once ET was released, instead opting to use Kamui.

And Obito's statement against Gai and Kakashi in relation to his use of the Six Paths Techs isn't exactly 100% implicative of him being able to use all 6 of them. Of course he had the potential to learn them, however.

 

[Floydical]

Never did I say you need both eyes to use 6 paths, so I suggest you stop putting words in my mouth.

-Sasuke was using his Rinnegan like a pro as soon as he got it

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-Yet he couldn’t use Deva Path until after the Kaguya fight had matured his mastery of Rinnegan even more:

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So to say Obito who admitted not only that he could barely handle the Rinnegan and was succumbing to it, but also implied he was at his limit in terms of its usage can use Deva Path is a baseless assumption.

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Having the tool to use Deva Path (the Rinnegan) does not mean he has the mastery/skill to actually perform it.

Exactly. Nagato was suitable for the eye and had it his whole life. These clowns saying Obito can use Chibaku and Shinra Tense Lol. My sides...

What the heck did I just read?

Stop trying to pass off these manga pages as evidence, supposedly proving one can or can't use Shinra Tensei. Your arguments are downright laughable. Sasuke's statement could literally be referring to ANYTHING. You saying that panel proves he can now use God Realm after not being able to at first is downright comical. Your panel of Obito stating he came all that way with one eye does nothing to prove he couldn't use God Realm. I mean do you seriously believe this is evidence? I can't reiterate enough how this proves nothing. You are making far greater assumptions here than I am.

Hagoromo was called the sage of six paths because the Rinnegan gave him those abilities. Obito referred to Nagato as the third sage and Madara as the second, meaning Rinnegan automatically grants you access to these Jutsu. Nagato was able to master those 6 abilities because he was granted them due to having the Rinnegan. Mastery of the Jutsu has nothing to do with utilizing them in the case of a Rinnegan, they have all 6 automatically. All the user requires is knowledge of said techs and the chakra capacity to use them. Obito didn't need the resolve to be able to use God Realm, he had sufficient chakra and more than enough knowledge to do so. To assume Obito couldn't use Shinra Tensei is a ridiculous way of thinking.

Proof from the manga says he has access to at least a few of the realms, directly implying he has access to all 6.

 

[minamoto]

here memebers such as you always post threads to solve easy Mysteries...while a member such as me Minamoto always take risck to solve the most difficult Mysteries such as : why did madara awaken 2 rinnegans when he lost one eye to izanagi?....

 

[minamoto]

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[Demonic.]

What the heck did I just read?

Stop trying to pass off these manga pages as evidence, supposedly proving one can or can't use Shinra Tensei. Your arguments are downright laughable. Sasuke's statement could literally be referring to ANYTHING. You saying that panel proves he can now use God Realm after not being able to at first is downright comical. Your panel of Obito stating he came all that way with one eye does nothing to prove he couldn't use God Realm. I mean do you seriously believe this is evidence? I can't reiterate enough how this proves nothing. You are making far greater assumptions here than I am.

Hagoromo was called the sage of six paths because the Rinnegan gave him those abilities. Obito referred to Nagato as the third sage and Madara as the second, meaning Rinnegan automatically grants you access to these Jutsu. Nagato was able to master those 6 abilities because he was granted them due to having the Rinnegan. Mastery of the Jutsu has nothing to do with utilizing them in the case of a Rinnegan, they have all 6 automatically. All the user requires is knowledge of said techs and the chakra capacity to use them. Obito didn't need the resolve to be able to use God Realm, he had sufficient chakra and more than enough knowledge to do so. To assume Obito couldn't use Shinra Tensei is a ridiculous way of thinking.

Proof from the manga says he has access to at least a few of the realms, directly implying he has access to all 6.

What's laughable is this counter. You're claiming I'm using speculative evidence, yet over half of your post is garbage. "Obito said Nagato was the third sage" Lol So? Kabuto said he was the closest to the sage as well, is this supposed to mean something?

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1) Sasuke's words can mean anything here? What does it mean to you? Because it's pretty damn clear Sasuke is saying he couldn't use Deva until after the Kaguya fight had led him to control his Rinnegan better, he literally said this after using Deva Path, so what else could it possibly mean?

2) Obito's control over his Rinnegan wasn't good, and overwhelming him by his own admission. There's also the fact Obito didn't use Deva when it would have been greatly convenient for him to do so.

3) Rinnegan granting access to all 6 =/= he can use all 6. Sasuke proved this by not being able to use Chibaku Tensei until after he got better control of his Rinnegan, if you want to ignore the panel I've provided, then so be it. I'll let the other people who read this come to their own decision because arguing you is a waste of time.

 

[Floydical]

What's laughable is this counter. You're claiming I'm using speculative evidence, yet over half of your post is garbage. "Obito said Nagato was the third sage" Lol So? Kabuto said he was the closest to the sage as well, is this supposed to mean something?

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1) Sasuke's words can mean anything here? What does it mean to you? Because it's pretty damn clear Sasuke is saying he couldn't use Deva until after the Kaguya fight had led him to control his Rinnegan better, he literally said this after using Deva Path, so what else could it possibly mean?

2) Obito's control over his Rinnegan wasn't good, and overwhelming him by his own admission. There's also the fact Obito didn't use Deva when it would have been greatly convenient for him to do so.

3) Rinnegan granting access to all 6 =/= he can use all 6. Sasuke proved this by not being able to use Chibaku Tensei until after he got better control of his Rinnegan, if you want to ignore the panel I've provided, then so be it. I'll let the other people who read this come to their own decision because arguing you is a waste of time.

First of all, you need to be more clear with your posts. You came off as denying outright that he even had access to the jutsu. Now you have made it more clear in recent posts that you know he has access to it yet can't use it.

You post a single panel of Sasuke saying an extremely ambiguous sentence out of context and I'm supposed to know the context? How about you give me a manga page at a minimum so I can go back and see proper context?

It was explained in the manga why he wasn't using it. Its not that it wasn't convenient for him to use it, rather it was not recommended for him to do so as it would have consumed a lot of chakra and the teams he was fighting had counters.

Bottom line? We agree he has access to the Jutsu. You believe he can't use it at all while I believe he can use it. Granted, he might not be able to use it as well as even Nagato but he can still use it. Perhaps his usage is not grand enough for him to rationalize bothering with it. Fact is I believe the Rinnegan allows him to channel the chakra to perform God Realm techs simply because he has said Rinnegan and knows about said techs.

 

[Demonic.]

^ Lol, well alright then. I'll be more clear next time. Thanks for the rep.

 

[Ansatsuken]

First of all, you need to be more clear with your posts. You came off as denying outright that he even had access to the jutsu. Now you have made it more clear in recent posts that you know he has access to it yet can't use it.

You post a single panel of Sasuke saying an extremely ambiguous sentence out of context and I'm supposed to know the context? How about you give me a manga page at a minimum so I can go back and see proper context?

It was explained in the manga why he wasn't using it. Its not that it wasn't convenient for him to use it, rather it was not recommended for him to do so as it would have consumed a lot of chakra and the teams he was fighting had counters.

Bottom line? We agree he has access to the Jutsu. You believe he can't use it at all while I believe he can use it. Granted, he might not be able to use it as well as even Nagato but he can still use it. Perhaps his usage is not grand enough for him to rationalize bothering with it. Fact is I believe the Rinnegan allows him to channel the chakra to perform God Realm techs simply because he has said Rinnegan and knows about said techs.

You are right I guess

Take Madara Rinnegan for example. One eye rinnegan only gave him 1 limbo but both gave him 4 limbo, thats mean extra 3

Also I think double Rinnegan Madara without being a Jin has 2 limbo only. Maybe Juubi power boast his Rinnegan power and gave him 2 more limbo.

But thats not what we discuss here

Like you said one rinnegan still have the power of all 6 paths but much weaker like how Madara only have 1 limbo from one Rinnegan.

There exist some connection or logic.

Before this I thought Rinnegan was same like MS, but Madara limbo gave me some clue.

Like Obito said when Rinnegan is together, true power of that eyes will awake.

 

[Rikodou Mode]

Except Lee can’t use it, he already said he can only open the 6th gate.

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Except Lee wasn't in his prime

 

[shelke]

Because Nagato's use even with both the eyes is far from perfect. We know from Obito's own statement that both original Rinnegan eyes are required to use them at full power. It took Nagato how many days to draw in Bijuu chakra from larger Tailed-beasts? Imagine if he only had one Rinnegan, it would have been that much harder for him.

Then we have Madara's own plan. He wanted to hide away the Rinnegan for safe keeping to be revived later. One Rinnegan granting all 6 paths right off the bat is a moot point. Given that Obito had chances to use PP, yet he opted for Mokuton to quell Naruto's chakra:

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He only implied he'll use Human Path, he never actually used it, which leads me to believe that it was a mere threat for torture and a coercion technique, nothing more and nothing less. By his own admission, one Rinnegan with Mezo control alone was proving too much for him. Two would have outright killed him.

Not to mention both Mezo and RT are outer path game, and Madara could perform the former with one Rinnegan as well. Therefore it seems to me that one Rinnegan only grants the Outer Path control and full-stop. The closest to PP Obito ever came was when he sucked JJ Madara's chakra to gain a TSB and Madara lost one. But, the overall symbols for PP seem off here:

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I am dead sure that is just an absorption symbol, as Obito didn't use PP, not even once. And the above Mokuton usage uses a similar 7 like symbol. By and By, Sasuke is an exception as his use of techniques is above JJ Madara as proven by his use of CT without core.

You cannot apply the same example on the regular Rinnegans, I'm afraid.

 

[Xāvî1]

Sasuke used BT on a level Nagato can only dream of. He can als use ST logically, they're not unique to Nagato anyone with Deva Path can learn to attract and repel objects.

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Limbo could be unique to Madz, although I don't think it is considering Sasuke was able to see the clone, his Rinnegan is superior to Madara's.

Do you realise nagato just fought entire konoha, Blowed entire konoha, fought Naruto, fought kuuybi before he used CT!!

Its not down playing sasuke but just saying if sasuke can pull something of that magnitude!!