Patience Minato fans!!

[Nagi]

I think Madara took control of Obitio's body without him knowing from the dead.

 

[Wparker6804]

Lol @the stealth bashing. However, complaints that "Minato didn't recognize his student" are really stupid if you put any amount of thought into it. His size and voice were obviously changed to match Madara. Heck, during Kisame's flashback, he looks like the real Madara with a mask. So, how was Minato supposed to really recognize him? Certainly not through his fighting style, as it revolves completely around Kamui, a MS power Obito did not have around Minato. So really, there was absolutely nothing to go with for Minato to even suspect that this was his supposedly dead student. The people that bash Minato for not recognizing Obito are either trolls getting laughs, or are flat-out stupid.

I agreee

 

[Gold Lightning]

Lol @the stealth bashing. However, complaints that "Minato didn't recognize his student" are really stupid if you put any amount of thought into it. His size and voice were obviously changed to match Madara. Heck, during Kisame's flashback, he looks like the real Madara with a mask. So, how was Minato supposed to really recognize him? Certainly not through his fighting style, as it revolves completely around Kamui, a MS power Obito did not have around Minato. So really, there was absolutely nothing to go with for Minato to even suspect that this was his supposedly dead student. The people that bash Minato for not recognizing Obito are either trolls getting laughs, or are flat-out stupid.

People don't bash Kakashi for not knowing. Despite the fact that Kakashi was wielding the same eye, encountered tobi multiple times and fought against him. Even after figuring out the secret of kamui, Kakashi still asks "where did you get that eye". Honestly, why do people hate so much.

 

[SSStylish]

People don't bash Kakashi for not knowing. Despite the fact that Kakashi was wielding the same eye, encountered tobi multiple times and fought against him. Even after figuring out the secret of kamui, Kakashi still asks "where did you get that eye". Honestly, why do people hate so much.

lol, you've got a point man. I actually did never see anyone bashing Kakashi for this reason.​

 

[Wparker6804]

I think Madara took control of Obitio's body without him knowing from the dead.

Kishi told us what happened. He was aware of his actions the entire time, but manipulated via Madara's curse seal. Madara didn't posess him, control him or replace him--he was already dead after severing himself from the ghedo mazo

 

[Sennin of Logic]

your start that is the basic of your agrument is flawed = saying that Obito imitated Madara's voice is just an unproved opnion from yours...there no manga panel that explains how obito managed to imitate madara's voice !

............................... I don't need the manga when the anime, the thing that actually has audio, clearly has the voice actor for Tobi acting as the real Madara. Plus, the existence of jutsus that imitate voices do exist. See Yamato imitating Sasori. Assuming a "14 year old" was using his ordinary voice to imitate a geezer that's supposed to be long dead is really pushing it.

People don't bash Kakashi for not knowing. Despite the fact that Kakashi was wielding the same eye, encountered tobi multiple times and fought against him. Even after figuring out the secret of kamui, Kakashi still asks "where did you get that eye". Honestly, why do people hate so much.

IKR? Although, to be fair, it looked like he knew, but was in denial. However, if people expect Minato to recognize his student, how is Kakashi exempt from recognizing his best friend? People just have strange tastes. Many characters that are hated don't actually deserve it, but is merely incompatible with a lot of people's tastes. Minato's one of them.

 

[Nagi]

lol, you've got a point man. I actually did never see anyone bashing Kakashi for this reason.​

Don't sharingan let you see the color of the chakra like the byakugan? If so...yeah kakashi should've been known that was obitio. Im pretty sure you can't change the color of sharingan's energy.

 

[Wparker6804]

lol, you've got a point man. I actually did never see anyone bashing Kakashi for this reason.​

I'll probably +rep the guy 'cause I feel like such an idiot for not thinking of that defense in the past either
I dunno, maybe someone will make either a well built or a troll thread with it in the future.

 

[Nagi]

Kishi told us what happened. He was aware of his actions the entire time, but manipulated via Madara's curse seal. Madara didn't posess him, control him or replace him--he was already dead after severing himself from the ghedo mazo

Then that is some serious acting obitio had going on. Mofo didn't even show no love for kushina. It is biology to show a bit tiny emotion to people that cares about you.

 

[minamoto]

............................... I don't need the manga when the anime, the thing that actually has audio, clearly has the voice actor for Tobi acting as the real Madara. Plus, the existence of jutsus that imitate voices do exist. See Yamato imitating Sasori. Assuming a "14 year old" was using his ordinary voice to imitate a geezer that's supposed to be long dead is really pushing it.
QUOTE]

No manga evidence= no believence !!...prove me that obito used a jutsu or something to fake his voice....why would obito have a madara inner voice when he thinks and speak to himself??

 

[Wparker6804]

your start that is the basic of your agrument is flawed = saying that Obito imitated Madara's voice is just an unproved opnion from yours...there no manga panel that explains how obito managed to imitate madara's voice !

Well I won't say that he disguised himself with Madara's voice because you're right, that's pure speculation--but I doubt he used HIS voice when confronting Minato & he did meet Madara in the flesh/hashi-mesh. Not bashing your point but I wouldn't completely dismiss Sennin of Logic's "logical" (lol) point

 

[maniaoqan]

The real question should be that why Minamoto still hasn't realized that Masked Man is actually Obito ?

 

[minamoto]

The real question should be that why Minamoto still hasn't realized that Masked Man is actually Obito ?

YA RAB ...YA KARIM!!....he was madara!!..iv'e been saying this for 5 years

 

[Wparker6804]

Then that is some serious acting obitio had going on. Mofo didn't even show no love for kushina. It is biology to show a bit tiny emotion to people that cares about you.

Like I said, Obito was MANIPULATED and had a curse seal bottling up his anger and running it through his head 24/7. Believe me, people can do some REAL serious acting when they're angry. I've lost count of the # of times I was 110% pissed, broke, and completely seemed like someone else without regards to personal attachments to the target at hand.

 

[Gold Lightning]

Kishi told us what happened. He was aware of his actions the entire time, but manipulated via Madara's curse seal. Madara didn't posess him, control him or replace him--he was already dead after severing himself from the ghedo mazo

IKR? Although, to be fair, it looked like he knew, but was in denial. However, if people expect Minato to recognize his student, how is Kakashi exempt from recognizing his best friend? People just have strange tastes. Many characters that are hated don't actually deserve it, but is merely incompatible with a lot of people's tastes. Minato's one of them.

Here's the difference between minato and Kakashi (and the entire ninja world in fact).

Minato:
- only has one brief encounter with Obito, minato got many things on his mind at that point in time
- wife, son, village, all in danger. Gotta act fast, defeat enemy, save everyone
- doesnt care nor have the time to worry about who was under mask
- gets job done in less than 2 mins

Kakashi:
- possess same eye as obito, should have felt it the first moment he looked Tobi in the eye
- unlike minato, Kakashi has more than one encounter
- Kakashi should recognise Tobi's similar Ms ability

Entire ninja world
- fooled into believing Tobi was Madara for years
- Obito even shows his face to Kisame and the fool believes it's madara
- people like Ohonki who knew and met Madara in past, also were fooled
- even the great Itachi was convinced it was Madara -_-
HOWEVER:
- minato dismisses Tobi as being Madara straight away.
- took minato 1 chapter to defeat this clown
- took entire ninja world/Kakashi, Naruto, Gai, Bee Lord knows how just to land one hit -_-

So I don't know what the bashing is for here. If people wanna bash, they could say that minato should have finished Obito. That is a reasonable issue worthy of bashing.

 

[Wparker6804]

Here's the difference between minato and Kakashi (and the entire ninja world in fact).

Minato:
- only has one brief encounter with Obito, minato got many things on his mind at that point in time
- wife, son, village, all in danger. Gotta act fast, defeat enemy, save everyone
- doesnt care nor have the time to worry about who was under mask
- gets job done in less than 2 mins

Kakashi:
- possess same eye as obito, should have felt it the first moment he looked Tobi in the eye
- unlike minato, Kakashi has more than one encounter
- Kakashi should recognise Tobi's similar Ms ability

Entire ninja world
- fooled into believing Tobi was Madara for years
- Obito even shows his face to Kisame and the fool believes it's madara
- people like Ohonki who knew and met Madara in past, also were fooled
- even the great Itachi was convinced it was Madara -_-
HOWEVER:
- minato dismisses Tobi as being Madara straight away.
- took minato 1 chapter to defeat this clown
- took entire ninja world/Kakashi, Naruto, Gai, Bee Lord knows how just to land one hit -_-

So I don't know what the bashing is for here. If people wanna bash, they could say that minato should have finished Obito. That is a reasonable issue worthy of bashing.

Most logical, streight foreward & fortified post I've seen yet. BTW, were you agreeing or dissagreeing with what I said? If it's the late, you're MIGHT be mistaken to my point.

YA RAB ...YA KARIM!!....he was madara!!..iv'e been saying this for 5 years

Madara was a withered up old man hiding in a cave & died moments before the attack. THE ATTACK ON KONOHA WAS OBITO!
Read it again--the author says and shows it to you himself! It's like watching Fringe and saying a ridiculous theory like Peter Bishop was really a chick, despite

 

[Great Master Minato]

Here's the difference between minato and Kakashi (and the entire ninja world in fact).

Minato:
- only has one brief encounter with Obito, minato got many things on his mind at that point in time
- wife, son, village, all in danger. Gotta act fast, defeat enemy, save everyone
- doesnt care nor have the time to worry about who was under mask
- gets job done in less than 2 mins

Kakashi:
- possess same eye as obito, should have felt it the first moment he looked Tobi in the eye
- unlike minato, Kakashi has more than one encounter
- Kakashi should recognise Tobi's similar Ms ability

Entire ninja world
- fooled into believing Tobi was Madara for years
- Obito even shows his face to Kisame and the fool believes it's madara
- people like Ohonki who knew and met Madara in past, also were fooled
- even the great Itachi was convinced it was Madara -_-
HOWEVER:
- minato dismisses Tobi as being Madara straight away.
- took minato 1 chapter to defeat this clown
- took entire ninja world/Kakashi, Naruto, Gai, Bee Lord knows how just to land one hit -_-

So I don't know what the bashing is for here. If people wanna bash, they could say that minato should have finished Obito. That is a reasonable issue worthy of bashing.

Damn & Gold Lightning Solos Lol Love the bold =D

 

[Wparker6804]

Damn & Gold Lightning Solos Lol Love the bold =D

The second that you put in bold is probably my favorite point :-/
My best friend LOVES Minato and would probably be rolling on the floor laughing & tearing this thread a new one.

 

[minamoto]

Well I won't say that he disguised himself with Madara's voice because you're right, that's pure speculation--but I doubt he used HIS voice when confronting Minato & he did meet Madara in the flesh/hashi-mesh. Not bashing your point but I wouldn't completely dismiss Sennin of Logic's "logical" (lol) point

look in chapter 601 obito's right arm had human flesh ...madara spoke with another persona controling obito...that was the 2nd madara who was usingobito like vessel and controlled him

 

[Wparker6804]

look in chapter 601 obito's right arm had human flesh ...madara spoke with another persona controling obito...that was the 2nd madara who was usingobito like vessel and controlled him

Look at the facts:
-Madara revived Obito but put a curse seal on him
-He set up rin's death & told obito about his plan in order to manipulate him into continuing the plan
-He DIED after severing himself from the Ghedo Mazo--dead is dead
-Shortly after, OBITP attacked the Hidden Leaf unter the PERSONA of someone else, eventually revealing himself as Tobi/Madara

Madara manipulated him and screwed him over, but didn't posess him or do it himself. KISHIMOTO TOLD US THAT OBITO ATTACKED THE VILLAGE.