[VS] Sakura vs Hidan

[Made in Heaven]

Hidan would lose if Sakura hits him, but the problem is her cqc feats are not close to Hidan's. She will lose

How would she lose when Hidan can't even perform his seal ?

 

[KidGamer65]

If his face can function without connection to a needed part of it, why can't his body function Lol.

:| Because it was explicitly shown that his body can't function. He wouldn't need someone to go fetch him his body if it could walk over to him himself, and that's when he asked Kakuzu to go get his body.

Didn't Kabuto state that each individuals characteristics are constant with the ET.... Did he have his cloak on btw?

Yes, when he tanked FRS, but that doesn't matter. If what you said was true, he'd be less durable than Ay w/ the cloak on, and Ay got pierced by Chidori, yet somehow his father tanks FRS? Lol, the difference is obvious.

He didn't....he got sliced and then healed Lol

Nope. Re-read.

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The wind hit him and it made shallow cuts. Let's think about this logically for a second. If he got sliced apart like you claim he did, why weren't they able to seal him? How did he break out? Why did Temari say that it's

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Simple. Cause he took it with little damage, something that shouldn't be possible if having no bones mattered.

Doesn't this prove the point in my favor?

Lol I meant to say "If only Naruto's Rasengan hadn't failed to rip through his body completely".

Makes sense I suppose but also don't forget that skins elasticity also provides protection from punches and other external forces acting on the human body.

Yes it does, but considering:

1. Tsunade's punch isn't a regular punch.

2. ET bodies aren't really made of skin either.

Actually do you have any proof that ET isn't just layers of the paper like substance?

If it were layers of paper, then Raikage wouldn't be able to tank FRS.

The durability may be the same as a humans but the material is different, meaning that punches would go through. Imagine hitting through a solid object, such as wood/metal (in the NV of course) Punching through just layers of a material is possible whereas punching through humans is not. Notice how Madara didn't even get send backwards really, humans take the force and continue moving with it. That's how it works my man.

You have no point here. Choji punched Asuma and he got sent flying backwards. Ay punched Madara and he got sent flying backwards. Ay punched Mu and he got sent flying backwards. Manga makes it clear that they are meant to replicate human bodies besides the fact that they can regenerate. Tsunade's punch isn't even the same as a normal punch from someone like Choji, so hers blowing a hole in Madara's chest (especially since it's just a release of a bunch of chakra all at once from the fist) isn't some feat that would be impossible on a human.

I suggest we do.... I was referring to the time she was skewered from the front

I'm not referring to that time.

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Even then, she still moved, which should be impossible. She grabbed Madara's sword and tossed him or some shit like that.

What? You thought that word would change anything I didn't say anything about "repeatedly" in my original argument Lol why would they refer to the body being immortal instead of merely saying immortality :|

Um...because it's the same thing. Lol. Body being immortal means that the body cannot die as that is what immortality means. Them not saying the term "immortality" doesn't invent some new meaning.

It states nothing about fatal wounds though? "Because this jutsu cannot be evoked unless the caster himself is injured the only one who can use this jutsu repeatedly is Hidan due to his immortal body" A.K.A being injured doesn't hinder Hidan at all. Nothing here about fatal wounds again twisting it to your own means Lol

I only said fatal wounds because you yourself is the one who said it.

[QUOTE]repeatedly" is there to signify the ability to live after the fatal wound he commits at the end of each ritual.
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Your own interpretation of the scan from your last post completely obliterates your point. Hidan can perform the ritual over and over again because he's immortal and cannot die. That simple. And then you are going to accuse me of twisting shit. Lol, it looks like you are the one twisting stuff tbh.

And then there's the fact that even if I quoted that shit word for word, it'd have the same meaning. Hidan can use the jutsu (Which is designed to critically or fatally wound the opponent) repeatedly because he's immortal (which it clearly states), and can't die from his injuries. It's really that simple, but you are trying to twist it into something that it clearly isn't. It even says "IMMORTAL BODY", and immortal means that you are unable to die.

Compacted meant to compress... Lol so actually it does. Atsugai has extreme air pressure..... So the effects that come from it can be attributed to the jutsu Lol for as long as its active and even after. I'm not seeing your point it doesn't have to raise the pressure of the air already there because like most fuuton do.... the jutsu creates its own wind.

Lol. Once again. The tornado is formed by compacted air, that doesn't mean that it compacts and compresses and crushes whatever it

I wouldn't say weaker it just doesn't explode like Sakura's punches do.

It's weaker. Not exploding doesn't change that. There isn't even anything that lets you claim it's stronger in the first place.

You could have just stated Atsugai doesn't explode... they are two different attacks one uses extreme air pressure other uses brute physical strength.

Blunt force damage. Not to mention different types of attack is only used to differentiate between the amount of energy focused on a single point on the target. That's physics. Chidori would do more damage than Rasengan not because it's a piercing attack. It'd do more damage because it focuses it's energy on a more concentrated area. Sakura's punch focuses it's power on a smaller area than Atsugai and it contains more energy overall. Stop comparing the two. They are worlds apart in power.

Eve you comparing a human body to a solid chakra construct. Its quite embarrassing. Is wood not a harder substance than skin? Yet black belts can't go punching holes through people. The human body is literally created so that force flows through us and with multiple organs (skin mostly) that cushion force as well. No matter how hard you hit, if its with something as controlled as a fist its not doing shit to anyone externally. Besides the beating that comes with being flown btw.

What's embarrassing is your inability to read my post correctly. Where did I say that smashing Susanoo means that she can do the same to Hidan? Hidan tanked Atsugai with ZERO DAMAGE. Susanoo is more durable than he is, thus damaging Susanoo is proof that her punch is tiers above the likes of Kakuzu's overrated wind jutsu, which couldn't put a scratch on Hidan. It's not a punch, so I'm not sure what you are going on about here. Lol.

At the end of the day the manga supports the following.

-Hidan has never been affected by injuries that should of derailed his abilities to live successfully (move,communicate etc)

Irrelevant. He's been stabbed in the leg, and stabbed through the spine and he's been able to function. Tsunade and Sakura aren't even immortal and they can do that shit.

-CES has never shown to bust through a human being, Tsunade's punches were still hard as **** in part one and Oro tanked a direct Byakugou hit to the face.

1. Tsunade never used Byakugo in Part 1.

2. Her

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(go to the next chapter if you aren't convinced by that scan) when she hit him. Which only makes her strength normal, not extraordinary. Nice try though.

3. Byakugo Sakura>Sakura>Part 2 Byakugo Tsunade>>>>>>>>>>>>Rusty Part 1 Tsunade w/o Yin Seal active.

Then there's the fact that Oro said "

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....Meaning Kabuto weakened her somehow, not gonna bother looking for that since it's irrelevant.

If you don't realize how human anatomy attributes to physics then this debate isn't for you

I've already posted a scan of Madara getting his chest blown out by Tsunade's punches. If you don't realize how to:

-Properly read a post.
-Properly read manga scans.

And realize that Tsunade's punch does NOT work the exact same way as a human's punch in real life, which already damages the foundation of your argument....

Then this debate most definitely isn't for you.

 

[New Dawn]

Kid loser 69 can do backflips with punctured lungs and broken ribs. #fact #immortal #believeitornot

 

[Nattana]

Orochimaru >>>>>> Tsunade > Sakura > Hidan.

 

[Glad Of War]

Sakura wins, and it's not even close. Arguing with the embodiment of Absolutely zero intelligence doesn't matter. Hidan isn't touching her, and the moment he's within close proximity, one punch annihilates him.

You do realize Hidan is extremely deadly at short-range combat right? Asuma couldn't even match him on Taijutsu at short-range. Sakura ain't winning sh*t. Her punches are easily avoided and Hidan has been shown to evaded point blank situations. Even if he gets punched by Sakura which I doubt, Hidan certainly would continue fighting like it's nothing. I mean he survived decapitation, and even Asuma Ash bomb. His limbs as be shown to be punctured several times still he goes on fighting. Mind you, Hidan has an amazing regenerative ability and can heal wounds in minutes. So No, Sakura ain't winning, Her Byakugou seal could give her a little edge but at the end, Hidan slashes her throat off!

 

[Amaterasu]

In cqc Hidan is better, he pushed Kakashi back so he would most likely hit her before she hits him. Like I said IF she hits him then its game over

The fact that he pushed Kakashi back does not disprove him tho'

You do realize Hidan is extremely deadly at short-range combat right? Asuma couldn't even match him on Taijutsu at short-range. Sakura ain't winning sh*t. Her punches are easily avoided and Hidan has been shown to evaded point blank situations. Even if he gets punched by Sakura which I doubt, Hidan certainly would continue fighting like it's nothing. I mean he survived decapitation, and even Asuma Ash bomb. His limbs as be shown to be punctured several times still he goes on fighting. Mind you, Hidan has an amazing regenerative ability and can heal wounds in minutes. So No, Sakura ain't winning, Her Byakugou seal could give her a little edge but at the end, Hidan slashes her throat off!

I don't think Asuma is athe level of War Arc Sakura level tho', she negged a lot of MiniJuubis. You're clearly overestimating Hidan and underestimating Sakura.

I'm not answering to Absolute.

 

[BenjerminGaye]

She can't heal when she has 3 blades through her and the rope is wrapped around her.

Oh you mean how like tsunade can't heal when she had tow susanno blades in her chest? oh wait....

 

[Zexion~]

:| Because it was explicitly shown that his body can't function. He wouldn't need someone to go fetch him his body if it could walk over to him himself, and that's when he asked Kakuzu to go get his body.

I meant if the face can function without necessary bones and organs why can't the body :| Kinda wrecks your whole counter argument tbh Lol

Yes, when he tanked FRS, but that doesn't matter. If what you said was true, he'd be less durable than Ay w/ the cloak on, and Ay got pierced by Chidori, yet somehow his father tanks FRS? Lol, the difference is obvious.

I know I said you were right .-. durability is the same but material isn't.

Nope. Re-read.

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The wind hit him and it made shallow cuts. Let's think about this logically for a second. If he got sliced apart like you claim he did, why weren't they able to seal him? How did he break out? Why did Temari say that it's

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What? Do you lack depth perception?

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Even with the visibility disadvantage from the angle we are at we can see that it ripped right through his shoulder and lower leg Lol, she said its like were not even touching him because the durability may have saved him from being sliced completely but he could heal :|

Simple. Cause he took it with little damage, something that shouldn't be possible if having no bones mattered.

Dropped that argument.

Yes it does, but considering:

1. Tsunade's punch isn't a regular punch.

2. ET bodies aren't really made of skin either.



If it were layers of paper, then Raikage wouldn't be able to tank FRS.

Considering that

-Its physically impossible for a fist to go through the human body regardless of its strength

-The only way I could comprehend this is with speed as its speed that ultimately determines the piercing power of a punch. Upping your strength just determines how far you're going to go flying really Lol

Again Kabuto stated that Edo's retain their abilities/characteristics including hardened skin

You have no point here. Choji punched Asuma and he got sent flying backwards. Ay punched Madara and he got sent flying backwards. Ay punched Mu and he got sent flying backwards. Manga makes it clear that they are meant to replicate human bodies besides the fact that they can regenerate. Tsunade's punch isn't even the same as a normal punch from someone like Choji, so hers blowing a hole in Madara's chest (especially since it's just a release of a bunch of chakra all at once from the fist) isn't some feat that would be impossible on a human.

Except again the human body has muscle,blood,bones etc. to physically make that impossible. But besides that the main difference again most likely the cut off point for the ET paper/substance that replaces skin to retain force before breaking. A humans threshold would be much higher due to the things I've stated plus skin. So basically the only reason Tsunade was able to do that was because of skins higher ability to cushion and flow with the force. The ET's may have been able to do it to a pretty high extent as shown by the things you stated but its not on skins level, which is merely evident by the layers of it always falling off.

I'm not referring to that time.

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Even then, she still moved, which should be impossible. She grabbed Madara's sword and tossed him or some shit like that.

Lol they clearly avoided the spine.... So no its not impossible to move. Besides untill they are removed the damage is minimal so Tsunade heals it right up to the point of entry and then they block the loss of blood from the organs they pierced A.K.A keeping them relatively active. But again they didn't even touch her spine.

Um...because it's the same thing. Lol. Body being immortal means that the body cannot die as that is what immortality means. Them not saying the term "immortality" doesn't invent some new meaning.

Body death = Body Failure, normally immortality refers more of a quasi meaning to the human soul. The "Body" isn't really alive in the first place technically its the mind that is controlling the body so an immortal body merely means it does not falter, hence why no one ever states that when referring to immortals. "Oh no he can't die he must have an immortal body" :| Sounds stupid Lol but whatever just how I see it.

I only said fatal wounds because you yourself is the one who said it.

[QUOTE]repeatedly" is there to signify the ability to live after the fatal wound he commits at the end of each ritual.
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Lol because you stated something about repeatedly meaning some bull shit I already don't really remember doesn't really matter who said what first thats petty arguments.

Your own interpretation of the scan from your last post completely obliterates your point. Hidan can perform the ritual over and over again because he's immortal and cannot die. That simple. And then you are going to accuse me of twisting shit. Lol, it looks like you are the one twisting stuff tbh.

Not really, you are trying to claim that the fact that it states Hidan can take multiple injuries and still be un hindered is really just it trying to say he can't die which it never really insinuates.

And then there's the fact that even if I quoted that shit word for word, it'd have the same meaning. Hidan can use the jutsu (Which is designed to critically or fatally wound the opponent) repeatedly because he's immortal (which it clearly states), and can't die from his injuries. It's really that simple, but you are trying to twist it into something that it clearly isn't. It even says "IMMORTAL BODY", and immortal means that you are unable to die.

Lol read above either way I mean you may be able to dis-prove this but you can't prove anything yourself Lol

Lol. Once again. The tornado is formed by compacted air, that doesn't mean that it compacts and compresses and crushes whatever it

If something is being compacted and compressed doesn't it do that to everything within it as well :|

It's weaker. Not exploding doesn't change that. There isn't even anything that lets you claim it's stronger in the first place.

Lol I suppose. I'd say its more efficient

Blunt force damage. Not to mention different types of attack is only used to differentiate between the amount of energy focused on a single point on the target. That's physics. Chidori would do more damage than Rasengan not because it's a piercing attack. It'd do more damage because it focuses it's energy on a more concentrated area. Sakura's punch focuses it's power on a smaller area than Atsugai and it contains more energy overall. Stop comparing the two. They are worlds apart in power.

Lol no just because it pierces both Rasengan and Chidori focus on a single area.

What's embarrassing is your inability to read my post correctly. Where did I say that smashing Susanoo means that she can do the same to Hidan? Hidan tanked Atsugai with ZERO DAMAGE. Susanoo is more durable than he is, thus damaging Susanoo is proof that her punch is tiers above the likes of Kakuzu's overrated wind jutsu, which couldn't put a scratch on Hidan. It's not a punch, so I'm not sure what you are going on about here. Lol.

Okay I don't really care which is stronger Lol although in this case they are both futile to Hidan.

Irrelevant. He's been stabbed in the leg, and stabbed through the spine and he's been able to function. Tsunade and Sakura aren't even immortal and they can do that shit.

Leg,Spine,Heart,Crushed. Not to mention he's had his lungs and other vitals completely impaled yet he still functions without any ease

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Structural or integral Hidan's tanked and lived with functioned with the impairments with no sign of strain.

1. Tsunade never used Byakugo in Part 1.

2. Her

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(go to the next chapter if you aren't convinced by that scan) when she hit him. Which only makes her strength normal, not extraordinary. Nice try though.

3. Byakugo Sakura>Sakura>Part 2 Byakugo Tsunade>>>>>>>>>>>>Rusty Part 1 Tsunade w/o Yin Seal active.

Then there's the fact that Oro said "

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....Meaning Kabuto weakened her somehow, not gonna bother looking for that since it's irrelevant.

Doesn't matter that's exactly what would happen if Hidan were to be punched with enhanced strength thats what the human body does, it would hurt like a ***** and kill any other human hit by it but if anything it would pump Hidan up with ease.

I've already posted a scan of Madara getting his chest blown out by Tsunade's punches. If you don't realize how to:

-Properly read a post.
-Properly read manga scans.

Lmfao i've already proved how punching through an ET is nothing like punching through a human being. Clearly something is weaker when flakes of it are falling off constantly Lol you need to learn proper physics and anatomy not to mention accept what the manga has given you.

And realize that Tsunade's punch does NOT work the exact same way as a human's punch in real life, which already damages the foundation of your argument....

It enhances the strength with mini bursts of chakra. The basic anatomy of a human body doesn't change in the manga.

 

[KidGamer65]

I meant if the face can function without necessary bones and organs why can't the body :| Kinda wrecks your whole counter argument tbh Lol

Already addressed. Being able to do one thing=/=Being able to do the other w/o conclusive evidence.

Except it doesn't.

What? Do you lack depth perception?

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Even with the visibility disadvantage from the angle we are at we can see that it ripped right through his shoulder and lower leg Lol, she said its like were not even touching him because the durability may have saved him from being sliced completely but he could heal :|

What in the hell are you showing me? Lmao. This is literally the same thing I just described. Shallow cuts. No dismemberment. Did I say that it didn't cut into him? Nope. Like I said, read before you reply. Bold is exactly my point. He wasn't cut through completely, meaning there is no difference between the Edo body and the human body when it comes to durability.

But since you conceded that point, why are you even replying to this? Lol.

Considering that

-Its physically impossible for a fist to go through the human body regardless of its strength

Considering that Tsunade's punch isn't a normal punch, and considering that there are panels of her blowing out Madara's chest...

Considering that Edos have been punched before and nothing like this has ever happened. Ever.

Lol, it's irrelevant.

-The only way I could comprehend this is with speed as its speed that ultimately determines the piercing power of a punch. Upping your strength just determines how far you're going to go flying really Lol

Except Tsunade isn't just upping her strength. She's creating an explosion type effect, which is why she can blow Madara's chest out with a punch.

Again Kabuto stated that Edo's retain their abilities/characteristics including hardened skin

He said they retain their abilities. Case in point. Don't try and twist what he says, which is something you ironically accused me of doing. Lol, com on now.

Except again the human body has muscle,blood,bones etc. to physically make that impossible.

Against a regular punch. Lol.

But besides that the main difference again most likely the cut off point for the ET paper/substance that replaces skin to retain force before breaking. A humans threshold would be much higher due to the things I've stated plus skin. So basically the only reason Tsunade was able to do that was because of skins higher ability to cushion and flow with the force. The ET's may have been able to do it to a pretty high extent as shown by the things you stated but its not on skins level, which is merely evident by the layers of it always falling off.

Now you are pretty much making assumptions with no proof to back them up.

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No layers falling off.

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Nothing coming from Mu's stomach here either.

It's simple really. Edo bodies are meant to act just like human bodies. Punches aren't going to pierce right through them just because their bodies appear to be formed from dirt and paper. If that made sense it would've happened literally every time someone got punched. But it didn't. Switching your argument to "ET bodies can do the same thing, but not as good as the human body because it has skin, muscles, blood, bones etc" is nothing but a cop out argument. Manga has clearly disregarded this logic you are trying to use.

Lol they clearly avoided the spine.... So no its not impossible to move. Besides untill they are removed the damage is minimal so Tsunade heals it right up to the point of entry and then they block the loss of blood from the organs they pierced A.K.A keeping them relatively active. But again they didn't even touch her spine.

Dafuq?

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If a sword is going through your whole waist, then it obviously hasn't missed the spine. If someone shoves a blade wider than your body through your waist, then your spine has been hit. It's impossible for it not to have been hit.

Body death = Body Failure, normally immortality refers more of a quasi meaning to the human soul. The "Body" isn't really alive in the first place technically its the mind that is controlling the body so an immortal body merely means it does not falter, hence why no one ever states that when referring to immortals. "Oh no he can't die he must have an immortal body" :| Sounds stupid Lol but whatever just how I see it.

Since when? Lol. The mind controlling the body doesn't change the fact that the body itself is still alive. All that means is that the mind is controlling an alive body rather than a dead body. An immortal body means a body that can never die, meaning that Hidan can never die.

The very word immortal means to live forever, never dying or decaying.

Lol because you stated something about repeatedly meaning some bull shit I already don't really remember doesn't really matter who said what first thats petty arguments.

Actually it ties into the meaning of what your DB scan says, so it's not really petty or irrelevant.

Not really, you are trying to claim that the fact that it states Hidan can take multiple injuries and still be un hindered is really just it trying to say he can't die which it never really insinuates.

-DB says IMMORTAL BODY.
-Immortal=Can never die.
-You say that it has nothing to do with him dying or not.

Really now? You cannot be serious with this.

Lol read above either way I mean you may be able to dis-prove this but you can't prove anything yourself Lol

You guys claimed that Hidan could take any injury and still walk with zero difficulty, if you can't prove it then the claim is null and void, leaving me with no reason to believe that Hidan will be doing anything after gets mutilated by sakura's hits.

If something is being compacted and compressed doesn't it do that to everything within it as well :|

No, that's how it initially forms. That's not how it deals it's damage. But this isn't really that important anyway.

Lol I suppose. I'd say its more efficient

Lol no just because it pierces both Rasengan and Chidori focus on a single area.

Chidori focuses on a more concentrated area. That's the whole point. It being a piercing move is why it does that, but why it's more effective isn't just explained by "it's a piercing move".

Okay I don't really care which is stronger Lol although in this case they are both futile to Hidan.

Whatever you asy.

Leg,Spine,Heart,Crushed. Not to mention he's had his lungs and other vitals completely impaled yet he still functions without any ease

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Structural or integral Hidan's tanked and lived with functioned with the impairments with no sign of strain.

Which is again, nothing special as even non immortals with nothing but regeneration can live through these injuries and still fight in top condition. Stabbed through his leg. Stabbed through his spine. Stabbed through his heart. Stabbed through his lungs. Stabbed through other vitals. They are all stabbings. Lol, not even anything extreme.

Doesn't matter that's exactly what would happen if Hidan were to be punched with enhanced strength thats what the human body does, it would hurt like a ***** and kill any other human hit by it but if anything it would pump Hidan up with ease.

Edo Madara disagrees. Your weak explanation as to why Tsunade could blow a hole in an Edo body and not a human body is irrelevant mainly cause there is no proof.

Lmfao i've already proved how punching through an ET is nothing like punching through a human being.

No, you haven't. I showed you examples where people were punched and didn't get easily pierced through like you did. They went flying like any human body would, then you tried to make some cop out explanation that didn't have any solid proof behind it.

Clearly something is weaker when flakes of it are falling off constantly

Not really. There is no correlation. That's like saying because a human body doesn't flake, it's more durable than Edo Raikage. Absolutely not.

Lol you need to learn proper physics and anatomy

Let's not get it twisted here buddy. I know physics and anatomy. You are trying to bring it into this debate when it has no place. You are trying to use it make some difference between Edos and Humans that doesn't exist in the context we are speaking of. What's hilarious is that this is all based off of a regular human punch, something that Tsunade's punch is clearly different from.

not to mention accept what the manga has given you.

Is this coming from the guy who won't accept Tsunade blowing out Edo Madara's chest w/ her punch, and the guy who won't accept that the DB says Hidan can perform the ritual over and over again because he can't die?

Lol, not sure if serious.

 

[BenjerminGaye]

Why was my post deleted. Destroying the chain with a bomb kunai, is a legitimate strategy that was actually employed in the manga.

 

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Sakura.
One punch on the torso and his body is annihilated now for the head SHAAANNNNNNAAAROOO

 

[BenjerminGaye]

I dont understand what that is supposed to disprove. Kakashi is better in taijutsu and cqc than Sakura. Hidan was able to push Kakashi back. Therefore Hidan will be the first to land a hit on Sakura.

Like i said, she wins if she hits him

When did hidan push kakashi back? I remember hidan getting left in the dust due to kakashi's sheer speed.

 

[Zexion~]

Can we stop the rest of this bullshit an argue what matters

You guys claimed that Hidan could take any injury and still walk with zero difficulty, if you can't prove it then the claim is null and void, leaving me with no reason to believe that Hidan will be doing anything after gets mutilated by sakura's hits.

Uhmmm no? The manga has shown Hidan to not be affected by anything at all ever afflicted on him. Whether its severing his spine or piercing through a bone that should leave his leg limp or the fact that his head can still function physically without the attachment to his vertebrae. YOU need to find the proof that Hidan can be affected but good luck with that since its not possible Lol. Stick to the argument that Tsunade can blow holes through people as that's all that will ever be justifiable

If a sword is going through your whole waist, then it obviously hasn't missed the spine. If someone shoves a blade wider than your body through your waist, then your spine has been hit. It's impossible for it not to have been hit.

Uhmmm way to used a blown up picture

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Look at the bottom right hand of your scan one more time

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Its clearly missed her back entirely going to the left and right of the spine, it may have hit some minor parts but her healing can compensate.

Now you are pretty much making assumptions with no proof to back them up.

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No layers falling off.

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Nothing coming from Mu's stomach here either.

It's simple really. Edo bodies are meant to act just like human bodies. Punches aren't going to pierce right through them just because their bodies appear to be formed from dirt and paper. If that made sense it would've happened literally every time someone got punched. But it didn't. Switching your argument to "ET bodies can do the same thing, but not as good as the human body because it has skin, muscles, blood, bones etc" is nothing but a cop out argument. Manga has clearly disregarded this logic you are trying to use.

What are you saying? Post those all you want it doesn't change the fact that flakes have clearly been seen flying off when ET was hit, chalk it up to the speed or just bad drawing but that doesn't change anything. As Madara has clearly shown to flake.

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Not to mention a complete ET was sliced through with nothing but a chakra scalpel I believe

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WAIT A ****ING MINUTE IT WAS A ****ING CLONE

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Okay provide an explanation asap, because there is no way you would just miss that without an explanation Lol

 

[KidGamer65]

Can we stop the rest of this bullshit an argue what matters



Uhmmm no? The manga has shown Hidan to not be affected by anything at all ever afflicted on him. Whether its severing his spine or piercing through a bone that should leave his leg limp or the fact that his head can still function physically without the attachment to his vertebrae. YOU need to find the proof that Hidan can be affected but good luck with that since its not possible Lol. Stick to the argument that Tsunade can blow holes through people as that's all that will ever be justifiable

Lol, don't start with the garbage fallacious argumentation now. You made the claim, so you back it up. It's really that simple and it won't get any more simple. You are using proof of him being able to function with a stabbed leg, a pierced spine, and a stabbed heart as proof he can take things much much much much stronger and more lethal than that and still be able to function the same. Not how it works. That's common sense. Performing one feat isn't proof you can perform a better feat. That's like saying I can do more work because I did less work. Shit makes no sense.

This nonsense you are trying to push here is the same as the Yata can block everything clowns.

Uhmmm way to used a blown up picture

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Look at the bottom right hand of your scan one more time

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Its clearly missed her back entirely going to the left and right of the spine, it may have hit some minor parts but her healing can compensate.

Lol, you have to be kidding me. That image doesn't contradict anything the bigger image shows, and the bigger image clearly shows that it's going through her spine. The Susanoo blade is as wide as her waist. How in the hell would it go through her waist but not go through her spine also? Lmao.

And then there are these panels so once again, it doesn't matter.

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What are you saying? Post those all you want it doesn't change the fact that flakes have clearly been seen flying off when ET was hit, chalk it up to the speed or just bad drawing but that doesn't change anything. As Madara has clearly shown to flake.

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Not to mention a complete ET was sliced through with nothing but a chakra scalpel I believe

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We are talking about the Edo body vs. a punch. What happens to them when they get cut or vaporized isn't relevant. The fact you are bringing up other examples only further shows me that you can't properly explain why this flaking proves your argument correct or supports your stance in any way, shape, or form.

A complete ET was cut in half by a chakra scalpel from Kabuto, who was in Sage Mode, which enhances Ninjutsu. Lol.

WAIT A ****ING MINUTE IT WAS A ****ING CLONE

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Okay provide an explanation asap, because there is no way you would just miss that without an explanation Lol

It being a clone literally means nothing, as these types of clones are just as durable as the user if enough power is put into them, nor do they go poof with one hit like Shadow Clones do. So if you think you had something...

You don't.

 

[RustledJimmies]

Replace Hidan with Kakuzu and Sakura still wins.

 

[Zexion~]

Lol, don't start with the garbage fallacious argumentation now. You made the claim, so you back it up. It's really that simple and it won't get any more simple. You are using proof of him being able to function with a stabbed leg, a pierced spine, and a stabbed heart as proof he can take things much much much much stronger and more lethal than that and still be able to function the same. Not how it works. That's common sense. Performing one feat isn't proof you can perform a better feat. That's like saying I can do more work because I did less work. Shit makes no sense.

Incorrect once again, its not a stronger feat though? Its a single constant he can live and function throughout any injury, the fact of the spread means nothing. He was able to stand through a pierced spine, which is unfathomable. Its physically impossible its the basis of movement without it nothing NOTHING can move the nervous system is completely destroyed. Its just as devastating as a punch from Sakura would do.

This nonsense you are trying to push here is the same as the Yata can block everything clowns.

No? I'm not using data book hype im using feats and relatively. Yata probably can block anything but it would crack after strong ass attacks leading it to break lml idk just my spin on it.

Lol, you have to be kidding me. That image doesn't contradict anything the bigger image shows, and the bigger image clearly shows that it's going through her spine. The Susanoo blade is as wide as her waist. How in the hell would it go through her waist but not go through her spine also? Lmao.

The spine is fully in the posterior of the human body even slightly protruding, (Not through the skin but you can feel it quite clearly) the swords clearly avoided it by passing by. No you don't automatically get a pierced spine if your waist is pierced? It has to be in the center :|

And then there are these panels so once again, it doesn't matter.

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Lol she never removed the sword so it still could act functionally. But alas Tsunade herself basically stated that that was possible due to her regeneration technique not simply due to her extreme mettle as a human.

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She knew it wouldn't kill her with her seal active, hence why she used it to create an opening to attack.

We are talking about the Edo body vs. a punch. What happens to them when they get cut or vaporized isn't relevant. The fact you are bringing up other examples only further shows me that you can't properly explain why this flaking proves your argument correct or supports your stance in any way, shape, or form.

A complete ET was cut in half by a chakra scalpel from Kabuto, who was in Sage Mode, which enhances Ninjutsu. Lol.

You can't come up with any of your own proof either though now can you? Regardless i'll just move on.

It being a clone literally means nothing, as these types of clones are just as durable as the user if enough power is put into them, nor do they go poof with one hit like Shadow Clones do. So if you think you had something...

Incorrect durability means nothing its all about the material the clone is made of wood, no matter how durable it is, the fact that it is made of wood means it can be punched through. We all know wood can be punched through so your whole argument is now officially moot Lol

-No one has ever punched through or even partially through a human being in the manga.

-Hidan tanks internal damage the punch causes

 

[Icelerate]

You're still stubborn here. LOL. Sakura aint winning this. Neither is Tsunade.

I wasn't, he was being stubborn.

 

[Xlad]

What the hell is this?

 

[Ghost in the Shell]

6 pages for this matchup...

 

[Icelerate]

What the hell is this?

Who wins?

6 pages for this matchup...

Who wins?