Why does the series portray EMS Madara as a "Susanoo only guy?"

[Pukkake Pokayo]

But mokuton alone?

Tell me you weren't the slightest bit disappointed of his rinnegan display?

Pein shown better use through the black rod before using the rinnegan in edo tensei.

Hashirama and his mokuton influenced him greatly.

I was disappointed that he didn't show any EMS techs tbh.

Pain part 2 vs. the kage probably wouldn't have cut it or it would have been overkill with the abilities he showcased as well as Nagato's style. Lack of creativity which ever way you look at it? So many possibilities.. probably rushed *shrugs* can't do much about it now :/

You have to admit though, he went ham in his intro as an edo

 

[Made in Heaven]

There's been 3 canon users of it purely through MS, of the insane amount of Sharingan users. Half the other MS users were never shown with it. So yes, it is indeed; Rare.

Madara: Had it

Sasuke: Had it

Itachi: Had it

Obito: Had it

Only two who haven't shown it are Izuna and Obito, and we don't even know WHAT Izuna's MS ability even is, though it can be assumed to be susano'O as well, given that Madara hasn't displayed anything other than that.

 

[Mad Titan Thanos]

no, he simply took off his armor xD it was a mistranslation

no ti wasn´t and if you are not blind you can see flames still being attached on his body even after removing armour.And Hashirama also mention that he is absorbing that jutsu.

Anyway after that he absorbed Hashi senjutsu so your theory falls in water.

I have to admit it's amazing, but even Hebi Sasuke has shown that level

was that reason why he couldnt kill him even though he was blind and weaponless. Great level of skills

 

[VongolaX]

Hashirama and his mokuton influenced him greatly.

I was disappointed that he didn't show any EMS techs tbh.

Pain part 2 vs. the kage probably wouldn't have cut it or it would have been overkill with the abilities he showcased as well as Nagato's style. Lack of creativity which ever way you look at it?

Ya, Hashirama has that issue going on for him as well because he's Asuhra's incarnate.

He just overcome people with the amount of life energy he has, but at least it's confimred that he has background in medical ninjustu (despite being featless af)

His Uchiha techniques were dry

Only Susanoo and Katon, even three tomoe Itachi shown way more Uchiha versatility than that.

 

[Lariatoo]

Yeah...
In base (3 tomoe) starts Madara is clearly the superior, but with MS Madara is the weakest of them. Guess his MS ability is the skill to see clones apart from the real one and another technique...

 

[Sir Blades]

Agreed...

He was out shined by his clansman in almost every field he is well adept on.



True, but what happens a second time only in EMS?



I have to admit it's amazing, but even Hebi Sasuke has shown that level

Dat hair though.

 

[VongolaX]

Dat hair though.

GG, how can I argue that.

 

[BlazeRelease]

Enton is simply the manipulation of Amaterasu. Amaterasu itself burns slowly. The Samurai had armour, Nagato didn't, so they could remove the flames. Completely subjective situation. Itachi didn't have Enton in the same way Sasuke doesn't have Tsukuyomi. He can turn the flames on and off but can't manipulate it's shape or size. Just like Sasuke can use a similar Genjutsu to Tsukuyomi but he can't control space and time like Itachi. Nagato couldn't react to Amaterasu (neither could the Samurai). So your argument doesn't hold.

What argument? I was just saying sasukes tends to fail.

But while we're on the subject, what about the toad mouth situation? That really was instant.

 

[Da Best Ever]

Madara is weaker than itachi or sasuke if you discount ms.

That's really what madara was known for. I've never seen or heard anything about his basic skills as a ninja but people (fanboys) tend to create mental illusions that madara was some sort of all around expert genius at everything from ninjutsu to taijutsu to genjutsu etc.

But we've seen next to nothing. Although he probably is superior to most people in those regards, he's not anything significant. Well he does have fire style...

Edo madara using 3 tomoe wrecked 100+ SA shinobi at the same time using taijutsu and weapons going untouched.

Completely blind madara blitz and shit stomped sai and sm naruto with a simple kick and hurt naruto with a ash jutsu. The fact that he can blitz an sm naruto is one of the greatest feats of speed nobody other than other senjutsu users blitz senjutsu 8th gate gai and blind madara are the only non senjutsu users to do so.

In his battle with hashirama he used his fire jutsus to counter hashiramam wood forests.

Intelligence is probably the highest.

He has knowledge of almost every jutsu and he can perform other people's jutsu and abilities with ease... Like juubito couldn't use kamui but Godara did instantly on his first try ever. Or like him absorbing hashirama senjutsu and mastering it in seconds and laughing at the amount of it.


Madara was the truth hands down quit hating

 

[VongolaX]

Edo madara using 3 tomoe wrecked 100+ SA shinobi at the same time using taijutsu and weapons going untouched.

Completely blind madara blitz and shit stomped sai and sm naruto with a simple kick and hurt naruto with a ash jutsu. The fact that he can blitz an sm naruto is one of the greatest feats of speed nobody other than other senjutsu users blitz senjutsu 8th gate gai and blind madara are the only non senjutsu users to do so.

In his battle with hashirama he used his fire jutsus to counter hashiramam wood forests.

Intelligence is probably the highest.

He has knowledge of almost every jutsu and he can perform other people's jutsu and abilities with ease... Like juubito couldn't use kamui but Godara did instantly on his first try ever. Or like him absorbing hashirama senjutsu and mastering it in seconds and laughing at the amount of it.


Madara was the truth hands down quit hating

Bold: That's Itachi

 

[Da Best Ever]

Yeah...
In base (3 tomoe) starts Madara is clearly the superior, but with MS Madara is the weakest of them. Guess his MS ability is the skill to see clones apart from the real one and another technique...

Their ms jutsu don't faze him at all. Look how many times he laughed at amaterasu and his speed and ninjutsu skills exceed theirs and genjutsu won't work on him so ms vs ms he's still faster, better taijutsu, more powerful ninjutsu and larger scale ninjutsu.

 

[Da Best Ever]

Bold: That's Itachi

I said probably but anyway madara is possibly right with him. He planned 50 years ahead and manipulated other geniuses and manipulated the shinobi world.

 

[DroGGz0r]

Their ms jutsu don't faze him at all. Look how many times he laughed at amaterasu and his speed and ninjutsu skills exceed theirs and genjutsu won't work on him so ms vs ms he's still faster, better taijutsu, more powerful ninjutsu and larger scale ninjutsu.

How many ? I recall just once...

 

[VongolaX]

I said probably but anyway madara is possibly right with him. He planned 50 years ahead and manipulated other geniuses and manipulated the shinobi world.

He's intelligent but apparently Black zetsu topped him, or rather kept things in check.

 

[Pukkake Pokayo]

Ya, Hashirama has that issue going on for him as well because he's Asuhra's incarnate.

He just overcome people with the amount of life energy he has, but at least it's confimred that he has background in medical ninjustu (despite being featless af)

His Uchiha techniques were dry

Only Susanoo and Katon, even three tomoe Itachi shown way more Uchiha versatility than that.

Yeah Indra + Ashura and he just pulled fancier susano's. Not to mention out of all of his years fighting with sharingan, he could have learned so many more jutsu. He was totally unrestricted..

 

[VongolaX]

Yeah Indra + Ashura and he just pulled fancier susano's. Not to mention out of all of his years fighting with sharingan, he could have learned so many more jutsu. He was totally unrestricted..

Seriously right?

I mean he was hyped up to know more justus but never really showed them.

 

[Rikodou Mode]

Madara is weaker than itachi or sasuke if you discount ms.

That's really what madara was known for. I've never seen or heard anything about his basic skills as a ninja but people (fanboys) tend to create mental illusions that madara was some sort of all around expert genius at everything from ninjutsu to taijutsu to genjutsu etc.

But we've seen next to nothing. Although he probably is superior to most people in those regards, he's not anything significant. Well he does have fire style...

Lel, he went to war with Senju his whole life. Itachi wouldn't have lasted 5min on the battlefield. And his katon is enough to match Hashi's mokuton U_U

Only Sasuke has stronger chakra than him and Madara's stamina shits on Itachi's. Also, Kurama was his summon, a bijuu that Itachi revered since he was a kid.

 

[Rikodou Mode]

EMS Madara in all his battles only relied on Susanoo, which was kind of disappointing for me because I though he further expanded on his abilities.

Even MS Sasuke utilizes more uchiha base techniques than Madara does.

If Madara's Susanoo was restricted, then how does he beat the likes of Itachi/Sasuke who can use amatersu?

I'm sure the fan is handy for like a few moments but he can't evade them all or put out the flames.

I think his MS abilities are related to shadow clones. If you think about, one eye to see through all clones, the other eye to make himself Susanoo clones. :|

 

[Sageof7Path]

EMS Madara in all his battles only relied on Susanoo, which was kind of disappointing for me because I though he further expanded on his abilities.

Even MS Sasuke utilizes more uchiha base techniques than Madara does.

If Madara's Susanoo was restricted, then how does he beat the likes of Itachi/Sasuke who can use amatersu?

I'm sure the fan is handy for like a few moments but he can't evade them all or put out the flames.

Sasuke surpasses Madara in nearly every form except for Madaras Juubi Jin form... He'll even Itachi MS has better visual prowess than ms Madara.

 

[Sageof7Path]

I think his MS abilities are related to shadow clones. If you think about, one eye to see through all clones, the other eye to make himself Susanoo clones. :|

He could only make Susanna clones do to being edi tensei(replenishing chakra) along with having more sense DNA in his left arm than Hashiramam himself.