Why does the series portray EMS Madara as a "Susanoo only guy?"

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Sasuke surpasses Madara in nearly every form except for Madaras Juubi Jin form... He'll even Itachi MS has better visual prowess than ms Madara.

Wow, the commitment right there....

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So would all the other main uchihas

taijustu alone isn't enough to put him on that amazing level, only his susanoo.

Except Madara fought against high ranking jounin whereas Sasuke was given Orochimaru's leftovers :)
 

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Nah he only pulls it out against high level fighters. Madara was the leader of the Uchiha clan. im sure he knew Uchiha secret techs like the ones obito used. His kkaton took a squadron of water styles to put out. Id say hes beast even without susanoo. Although he needs it to go against kage shinobi
 

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Wow, the commitment right there....

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No seriously just look at Madaras Natural u hacked abilities and compare them to its hi. Even when him and Sasuke both have ms Sasuke is a bit stronger than Madara if you're going by frets and abilities. Madara may have tsukuyomi but using that on someone with mangekyou you is pointless. If you compare all three of their MS it's his is the strongest naturally because he has tsukyomi Amaterasu and suzano with the mirror power and the sword of seeking, I think itachi was originally intended to be the strongest natural Uchiha.
 

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Madara: Had it

Sasuke: Had it

Itachi: Had it

Obito: Had it

Only two who haven't shown it are Izuna and Obito, and we don't even know WHAT Izuna's MS ability even is, though it can be assumed to be susano'O as well, given that Madara hasn't displayed anything other than that.

Obito had it because of Rikudou chakra

Itachi and Sasuke had it because Indra's chakra was divided between them

Madara had it because he had Indra's chakra
 

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Nah he only pulls it out against high level fighters. Madara was the leader of the Uchiha clan. im sure he knew Uchiha secret techs like the ones obito used. His kkaton took a squadron of water styles to put out. Id say hes beast even without susanoo. Although he needs it to go against kage shinobi

Talking about Secrets, he's the only Uchiha to ever Unlock a Rinnegan through the whole process on his Own.

He even told Obito he will teach him Uchihas Secret Jutsus, Kinjutsu, Rikudou Jutsu and etc.. and Obito has shown quite few of them.

He just Likes that Style of Fight ( Susanoo, brute force, strenght ), since Amaterasu screws up your Eyes and it's useless most the time ( It didn't do anything in the Manga ) + takes time to Focus everything into 1 Eye and all that..
 

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Nah he only pulls it out against high level fighters. Madara was the leader of the Uchiha clan. im sure he knew Uchiha secret techs like the ones obito used. His kkaton took a squadron of water styles to put out. Id say hes beast even without susanoo. Although he needs it to go against kage shinobi

I highly doubt that considering in both fights with Hashirama he never displayed any other effective frets besides susanno. Now that I think about it pre rinnegan madara fought mostly with his fan his scythe and used Katon like one time...
 

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Obito had it because of Rikudou chakra

Itachi and Sasuke had it because Indra's chakra was divided between them

Madara had it because he had Indra's chakra

Itachi also had Indra chakra? never heard that before
 

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Nah he only pulls it out against high level fighters. Madara was the leader of the Uchiha clan. im sure he knew Uchiha secret techs like the ones obito used. His kkaton took a squadron of water styles to put out. Id say hes beast even without susanoo. Although he needs it to go against kage shinobi

Bold: According to this base, Obito showing any uchiha technique is fan fiction.

On topic: I know of his susanoo and katon. However the manga portrayed him as this "One trick pony-guy," who use minimum and full power capability of Uchiha power by different variants of Susanoo depending on the level.

No seriously just look at Madaras Natural u hacked abilities and compare them to its hi. Even when him and Sasuke both have ms Sasuke is a bit stronger than Madara if you're going by frets and abilities. Madara may have tsukuyomi but using that on someone with mangekyou you is pointless. If you compare all three of their MS it's his is the strongest naturally because he has tsukyomi Amaterasu and suzano with the mirror power and the sword of seeking, I think itachi was originally intended to be the strongest natural Uchiha.

I agree with the Itachi part being naturally stronger, but Madara himself didn't develope unlimited tsukyomi until he synced with the gedo.

Talking about Secrets, he's the only Uchiha to ever Unlock a Rinnegan through the whole process on his Own.

He even told Obito he will teach him Uchihas Secret Jutsus, Kinjutsu, Rikudou Jutsu and etc.. and Obito has shown quite few of them.

He just Likes that Style of Fight ( Susanoo, brute force, strenght ), since Amaterasu screws up your Eyes and it's useless most the time ( It didn't do anything in the Manga ) + takes time to Focus everything into 1 Eye and all that..

Wow you haven't been here in a while.

Also the part in bold, apparently it's fan fiction here.

So the whole teaching six path justus, uchiha justus, and shadow and light release will just get you flamed.
 
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Bold: According to this base, Obito showing any uchiha technique is fan fiction.

On topic: I know of his susanoo and katon. However the manga portrayed him as this "One trick pony-guy," who use minimum and full power capability of Uchiha power by different variants of Susanoo depending on the level.



I agree with the Itachi part being naturally stronger, but Madara himself didn't develope unlimited tsukyomi until he synced with the gedo.



Wow you haven't been here in a while.

Also the part in bold, apparently it's fan fiction here.

So the whole teaching six path justus, uchiha justus, and shadow and light release will just get you flamed.

What? But it's a Manga Fact and was Stated and Showed as Feats by both Madara and Obito.

Madara was teaching Obito for the whole Plan to work, Rikudou Jutsu for the Revival, Uchiha jutsu for Seals and Etc..
 

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What? But it's a Manga Fact and was Stated and Showed as Feats by both Madara and Obito.

Madara was teaching Obito for the whole Plan to work, Rikudou Jutsu for the Revival, Uchiha jutsu for Seals and Etc..

Ya, I know dude but a group of people flamed me and called it fanfiction.

They said neither of that is possible without the rinnegan, so Madara couldn't teach Obito anything nor Obito learn anything.

I posted that both of them can use this since Nagato has the rinnegan:

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But apparently Madara nor Obito can use black rods without the rinnegan despite him using it right there and then.

#Flawless logic smh

Just an advice to keep it on the DL, you'll get flamed.
 
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