Pope Francis credited with a half-miracle

[Multiply]

I just watched the video of this, Pope Francis is such a love, there he is waving the thing about and the its like 'hey, is it supposed to move like that' then to the guy next to him it was like 'I think i broke it' and then the guy is proclaiming this miracle and he is like 'you have to be kidding, I didn't do it'

It was very cute, miracle or not

I actually like the Pope. He's a good figurehead because he actually has some common sense. When people were in upheaval over the Charlie Hebdo attacks, he flat out told people, "Don't mock someone else's religion then be surprised about the response.". That's makes complete sense. Why would you sit there and say, "These people are this way and that way" then be mad when they come knocking on your door with Ak-47's. Lol Of course he's not advocating murder but you'll get his point anyway.

 

[The Dreamer]

The heck do you know what the Egyptians knew Lol *dies*
And as for the conspiracy theory: The answers are visible in plain sight. As Jebus Christ said; People have eyes but don't see, ears but don't hear etc. Did you finish the whole vid, or?

I'm not sure if you don't want to answer my other statements or you didn't see them. Probably the second since I didn't mark them well. I edited the previous post and underlined my answers to things you said.

Now about the video... How do I know what Egyptians knew? By actually studying their mythology and beliefs. You know, it's an interesting thing. I'm sure you've heard plenty times that people say things like "My heart pains me greatly." or "You have brought sadness into my heart." The word heart here obviously doesn't represent heart as an actual organ but rather our feelings or soul/conciousness if you will. Now, some of the very first mentions of heart in this context are found in ancient Egypt when their priests would preach about their own moral sets of values.

And it's funny how you constantly claim that religious people don't know what this or that means but you often go on and do the exact thing. So how do you know what they mean? The obvious example of this is you quoting Jesus and distort the meaning of His words in a way so they could fit with your ideas. The context you're proposing is completely contradictory to the rest of his deeds or words. Also, you claimed on more than few occasions that Jesus is a symbol and not an actual person. So wich is it?

And I watched the video. It's just a conspiracy theory. A far-fetched one too. They also qoted Mathew in the same way you quoted Jesus here. For instance, the passage he quotes (about the eye and the light of body) is taken out of context. The eye here bears the concept of the soul. For millenia, the eye has been seen as a mirror of the soul (similar to the heart metaphor) or a peek at someone's soul. If the soul is single (a mistranslation of the Greek word haplous wich means single-minded or healthy) your whole body will be righteous, full of light. Mathew sees eye as the lamp of the body. A thing the video forgot to mention. (Classic quoting out of context.) Jesus spoke in paraboles constantly. People like the guy who made that video took things the wrong way and tried to pass it off as something legit. And before you repeat the thing you said so many times before ("Where do the sheep get the right to say what God means?"), from the fact that it was us to who God was reffering to. In a nutshell, we have the right interpretation just as how the author of the Iliad has the right interpretation.

But isn't God the author of His words? Yes. But His words have been passed on to those who wrote them down and they had the proper meaning. Unlike, the guy in the video who went on and connected that wich cannot be connected.

 

[YowYan]

I'm not sure if you don't want to answer my other statements or you didn't see them. Probably the second since I didn't mark them well. I edited the previous post and underlined my answers to things you said.

Now about the video... How do I know what Egyptians knew? By actually studying their mythology and beliefs. You know, it's an interesting thing. I'm sure you've heard plenty times that people say things like "My heart pains me greatly." or "You have brought sadness into my heart." The word heart here obviously doesn't represent heart as an actual organ but rather our feelings or soul/conciousness if you will. Now, some of the very first mentions of heart in this context are found in ancient Egypt when their priests would preach about their own moral sets of values.

And it's funny how you constantly claim that religious people don't know what this or that means but you often go on and do the exact thing. So how do you know what they mean? The obvious example of this is you quoting Jesus and distort the meaning of His words in a way so they could fit with your ideas. The context you're proposing is completely contradictory to the rest of his deeds or words. Also, you claimed on more than few occasions that Jesus is a symbol and not an actual person. So wich is it?

And I watched the video. It's just a conspiracy theory. A far-fetched one too. They also qoted Mathew in the same way you quoted Jesus here. For instance, the passage he quotes (about the eye and the light of body) is taken out of context. The eye here bears the concept of the soul. For millenia, the eye has been seen as a mirror of the soul (similar to the heart metaphor) or a peek at someone's soul. If the soul is single (a mistranslation of the Greek word haplous wich means single-minded or healthy) your whole body will be righteous, full of light. Mathew sees eye as the lamp of the body. A thing the video forgot to mention. (Classic quoting out of context.) Jesus spoke in paraboles constantly. People like the guy who made that video took things the wrong way and tried to pass it off as something legit. And before you repeat the thing you said so many times before ("Where do the sheep get the right to say what God means?"), from the fact that it was us to who God was reffering to. In a nutshell, we have the right interpretation just as how the author of the Iliad has the right interpretation.

But isn't God the author of His words? Yes. But His words have been passed on to those who wrote them down and they had the proper meaning. Unlike, the guy in the video who went on and connected that wich cannot be connected.

I was at work and didn't see the parts you edited in my post.
Anywho, my response towards you mentioning the egyptians goes back to how I've seen some idiotic posts of yours on previous threads concerning religion. Together with that dimwit wastelandsociety. Not sure how a brainwashed person could tell us anything in depth about what the egyptians practiced.

At bolded: I ocassionally mention something out of the bible but in a decoded way as to show the cymatic related meaning behind it, free from the illogical direct interpretation. Judging by your history of posts on similar threads, you're not to be taken seriously at all.

Second bolded: It actually makes more sense if the direct religious interpretation of Jezus' words are a misinterpretation. Just because a million people preach a stupid thing doesn't take the fact away that it's still a stupid thing. Most here don't even grasp the stuff I mention because of two reasons; They're already brainwashed and I tend to not elaborate on my posts as I usually use my phone and the browser keeps shutting down randomly.

It's not taken out of context, it's simply too much for you to grasp, so it seems. Mathew's quote is simply referring to the Mind's eye. 'Healing', 'Life', light of body and such all mean the same thing.

God didn't write shit as your interpretation of god makes no sense. God is that universal understanding of light, love, awareness, growth, energy, vibration. God is something internal and we are it. Not a omnipotent judge judy. Ancient civilizations knew more than given credit for. Religious scripts just give us a hint of the lost knowledge our species possessed. Don't be so gullible as to sheepishly accept the idea of an omnipotent, external phenomenona you have to worship and give lipservice to.

smh

 

[The Dreamer]

I was at work and didn't see the parts you edited in my post.
Anywho, my response towards you mentioning the egyptians goes back to how I've seen some idiotic posts of yours on previous threads concerning religion. Together with that dimwit wastelandsociety. Not sure how a brainwashed person could tell us anything in depth about what the egyptians practiced.

At bolded: I ocassionally mention something out of the bible but in a decoded way as to show the cymatic related meaning behind it, free from the illogical direct interpretation. Judging by your history of posts on similar threads, you're not to be taken seriously at all.

Second bolded: It actually makes more sense if the direct religious interpretation of Jezus' words are a misinterpretation. Just because a million people preach a stupid thing doesn't take the fact away that it's still a stupid thing. Most here don't even grasp the stuff I mention because of two reasons; They're already brainwashed and I tend to not elaborate on my posts as I usually use my phone and the browser keeps shutting down randomly.

It's not taken out of context, it's simply too much for you to grasp, so it seems. Mathew's quote is simply referring to the Mind's eye. 'Healing', 'Life', light of body and such all mean the same thing.

God didn't write shit as your interpretation of god makes no sense. God is that universal understanding of light, love, awareness, growth, energy, vibration. God is something internal and we are it. Not a omnipotent judge judy. Ancient civilizations knew more than given credit for. Religious scripts just give us a hint of the lost knowledge our species possessed. Don't be so gullible as to sheepishly accept the idea of an omnipotent, external phenomenona you have to worship and give lipservice to.

smh

Nice ad hominem there. As usual instead of making an argument you bash other people. Instead of trying to refut my statements you count them off as retarded and just claim that you are right and since we don't agree we're just a bunch of brain washed sheep who can't grasp your philosophies. Doesn't take much tought to see who the idiot here is.

As for my idiotic responses in threads, my most idioticpost was in my first encounter with you. And the funny thing is I was mimicing your retarded behaviour to wich you responded that it's an eyesore. So yeah you are an eyesore. Please stop embarrassing yourself. Either say something to help the debate resolve or shut up.

And I suppose when you say my idiotic posts you're referring to my early membership. News flash pal, I was trolling. (Kobak mostly and a couple of other guys.)

Now don't bother replying to me anymore. As it goes, it is not wise to argue with a fool.

 

[shelke]

Another religion versus science debate. Good grief. I would like to point out to the people of religion that they should study North Easten Mesopotamian and Canaanite religions to know the the entire concept of Angels (Seriph Judaism and Christianity) and god with multiple attributes (Islam) stemmed straight out of Phur-Ilani - council of the gods - myths of those regions. That is how authentic these religions are.

Could have been a cheap trick for all we know.

 

[YowYan]

Nice ad hominem there. As usual instead of making an argument you bash other people. Instead of trying to refut my statements you count them off as retarded and just claim that you are right and since we don't agree we're just a bunch of brain washed sheep who can't grasp your philosophies. Doesn't take much tought to see who the idiot here is.

As for my idiotic responses in threads, my most idioticpost was in my first encounter with you. And the funny thing is I was mimicing your retarded behaviour to wich you responded that it's an eyesore. So yeah you are an eyesore. Please stop embarrassing yourself. Either say something to help the debate resolve or shut up.

And I suppose when you say my idiotic posts you're referring to my early membership. News flash pal, I was trolling. (Kobak mostly and a couple of other guys.)

Now don't bother replying to me anymore. As it goes, it is not wise to argue with a fool.

Actually, it's always I that is providing an argument and knuckleheads that keep repeating the same degenerate thing which is unquestionable respect and servitude for their beliefs. Backed up by direct interpretations of religious scripts that don't make sense.Why do you think my posts nowadays are so assertive and dismissive? And ofcourse...you were trolling And no, I wasn't referring to your arguments with Kobak.

I'm not the one embarassing myself. Off you go, sport.

 

[NaNaNaaaaa]

I actually like the Pope. He's a good figurehead because he actually has some common sense. When people were in upheaval over the Charlie Hebdo attacks, he flat out told people, "Don't mock someone else's religion then be surprised about the response.". That's makes complete sense. Why would you sit there and say, "These people are this way and that way" then be mad when they come knocking on your door with Ak-47's. Lol Of course he's not advocating murder but you'll get his point anyway.

Yes, I get what he means and I agree, you can't point fingers at the bear who just mauled you if you where poking it with a stick. I don't agree with everything Pope Francis says but thats OK, differing opinions create progress and I just love him so it doesn't matter